[stew mack]

Everyone praises it, yet if I were to ask you the last time a presidential election had two viable candidates for president, I bet most of you wouldnt be able to think of one.

Direction of Country

76 percent of the country thinks were on the wrong track, yet everyone keeps defending business as usual. IDK guys, my confidence in our system in general is beginning to waver.

 

[Strike Force]

Everyone praises it, yet if I were to ask you the last time a presidential election had two viable candidates for president, I bet most of you wouldnt be able to think of one.

2012, 2008, 2000, just to name a few.

 

[kentl]

Everyone praises it, yet if I were to ask you the last time a presidential election had two viable candidates for president, I bet most of you wouldnt be able to think of one.

Direction of Country

76 percent of the country thinks were on the wrong track, yet everyone keeps defending business as usual. IDK guys, my confidence in our system in general is beginning to waver.

Issue become what's "viable" another issue is for mang its "my way" or nothing which means they'll never have two viable picks. Cause the other side is "bad" without fail evreytime

Which of course isn't actually true a 100% of the time. People are just stuck in their ways and convinced they can't be wrong or someone who doesn't share their views can be good

 

[Black Metal]

"Democracy" in the US went from a collaboration project to a cultural free for all of two tribes that are both cancer to progress and stability.

 

[stew mack]

democracy is a sick joke when you take into account just how little the average person knows about politics

when u have a lung problem you go to a doctor who treats lungs

when u get a dui you go to a lawyer

but have a problem with your government and you have to ask literally every motherfucker in this country, 80 percent of which cant be assed to learn a goddamn thing about the process and just go with who the stat quo likes/ whos more handsome



hooray democracy!

 

[validreasoning]

Everyone praises it, yet if I were to ask you the last time a presidential election had two viable candidates for president, I bet most of you wouldnt be able to think of one.

Direction of Country

76 percent of the country thinks were on the wrong track, yet everyone keeps defending business as usual. IDK guys, my confidence in our system in general is beginning to waver.

76% of the country think yet they kept electing the same parties over and over in Congress so I have zero sympathy.

If you choose to elect candidates just so you get one over over or 'own' another group that's on you unfortunately.

You only have to look at the voting records of the two main US parties and if you are not in top 0.01% of wealth in the country or a huge corporation you should not vote for one of them lol

 

[Seafort]

Everyone praises it, yet if I were to ask you the last time a presidential election had two viable candidates for president, I bet most of you wouldnt be able to think of one.

Direction of Country

76 percent of the country thinks were on the wrong track, yet everyone keeps defending business as usual. IDK guys, my confidence in our system in general is beginning to waver.

Tribalism. Too many people hate the other side for reasons that they have been conditioned to. Too many people view people on the other side - not just leadership, but regular citizens - as evil, if not even inhuman. It’s not the recipe for a functioning democracy, but left unchecked the stepping stone to Cambodia, Yugoslavia, or Rawanda.

 

[stew mack]

76% of the country think yet they kept electing the same parties over and over in Congress so I have zero sympathy.

If you choose to elect candidates just so you get one over over or 'own' another group that's on you unfortunately.

You only have to look at the voting records of the two main US parties and if you are not in top 0.01% of wealth in the country or a huge corporation you should not vote for one of them lol

They keep electing the same politicians because democracy is kinda bullshit and people in a democracy who are economically motivated to vote a certain way always is part of the downfall of democratic institutions the other being unearned wealth

 

[Goku]

Demon crazy is just a bad idea in general. Not everyone is equipped to make collective decisions, especially if they're operating on the level of individual benefit. Too many radicals pulling the ship in opposing directions leave the situation ripe for infiltration, which is precisely what has happened and its ripples will continue for a while to come.

But I guess our world needed that energy for a while. Although it's good if you're starting to question the assumptions. They kinda stack up and it can get hard to see how many assumptions rely on other assumptions. House of cards and all that, except they're glued together and nobody noticed.

Don't wanna get too deep into it as we've all kind of invested our whole lives into these sorts of ideas and it can get uncomfortable putting them up for challenge, but as long as we continue to think only what we've been educated to think on, then we're at the mercy of the apex predator (not Randy Orton, the entity or entities he borrowed the name from).

 

[yeahbaby!]

"Democracy" in the US went from a collaboration project to a cultural free for all of two tribes that are both cancer to progress and stability.

There was collaboration once? Modern society has been a competitive model for a very long time.

 

[Dickhead1990]

Unless Trump wins, then it's democratic, right?

 

[Black Metal]

There was collaboration once? Modern society has been a competitive model for a very long time.

Yeah, I do believe at one point it was. It was just way way way way before I was born.

 

[Goku]

Just something relevant to the topic, I felt. About how democracy is made to be subverted. Give it a listen if you're so inclined, brothers.

 

[dsnotgood]

the USA isn’t a democracy you dopes. Maybe if they didn’t take out the pledge of allegiance from schools due to commie dems some of you would know we are a constitutional REPUBLIC.

shows how clueless 90% of the public is. “I pledge allegiance…to the flag…of the United States of America…and to the REPUBLIC… OF WHICH IT STANDS….one nation under god ”.

 

[bander71]

What do you mean by viable? As for the other point you made the problem is the corruption in Washington. The majority of people no matter the party people want some form of universal healthcare yet it still hasn't been passed. They want the rich to stop getting away with loopholes in avoiding taxes. They wanted the troops out of Afghanistan a long time ago. They wanted the greedy pharmaceutical companies to be reeled in. Democrats and Republicans like the status quo as do the wealthy such as those in the mainstream media. It won't be until they feel unbearable pressure from the public that things will change.

 

[bander71]

There was collaboration once? Modern society has been a competitive model for a very long time.

Yeah, it seems after Nixon admin everything went to hell. Since 1978 people's wages have stagnated since the early 1970s.

 

[stew mack]

Unless Trump wins, then it's democratic, right?

Why would I care about what happens with Zion Don? like the man is an embarrassment because he would not take the L.. like even if Biden cheated.. Donny T still lost! there really is no such thing as cheating in an election.. it's kind of like a no disqualification match in that respect.


But tell me this montel, do you think anybody is satisfied with the general direction of this country on either side of the aisle? Na, nobody is happy! at least in some dictatorships you can get in good with the dictator right?

 

[stew mack]

the USA isn’t a democracy you dopes. Maybe if they didn’t take out the pledge of allegiance from schools due to commie dems some of you would know we are a constitutional REPUBLIC.

shows how clueless 90% of the public is. “I pledge allegiance…to the flag…of the United States of America…and to the REPUBLIC… OF WHICH IT STANDS….one nation under god ”.

I get what you are saying but I was using the two interchangeable because honestly neither system really works anymore. A problem like the national debt would never have happened under a monarchy to the extent that it has. because a monarch can't just say "oh I'm only in office for 8 years? pass the buck down!"


Now the monarchy has its problems too. but I just hate the reflexive defense that people have to give for democracy

 

[Dickhead1990]

Why would I care about what happens with Zion Don? like the man is an embarrassment because he would not take the L.. like even if Biden cheated.. Donny T still lost! there really is no such thing as cheating in an election.. it's kind of like a no disqualification match in that respect.


But tell me this montel, do you think anybody is satisfied with the general direction of this country on either side of the aisle? Na, nobody is happy! at least in some dictatorships you can get in good with the dictator right?

There is such thing as cheating if you rig an election. This did not happen in this place though. Fair play!

 

[Seth Grimes]

The biggest issue with democracy is that it is constantly undermined by politicians who do not deliver, or even try to deliver on the things they promised when you voted them in.