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Daniel Bryan is toxic

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#1 ·
Since 2014, this guy has ruined everything he touches. He was thrusted into a really intriguing main event between Batista and Orton because the neckbeards cried and threatened creative if they didn’t add him to the match and have him win it. We got a horrendous storyline about this underdog fighting the authority, which had been done so many times prior. People who hated Super Cena loved it when an injured Bryan beat Triple H, Batista and Orton in the same night, even after being carted off on a stretcher. He then flopped tremendously as champion by sinking the ratings and only defended his title once in a terrible feud with Kane. How can anyone say he never got his chance? They gave it to him right there and he BOMBED.

Fast forward to 2021. Daniel Bryan is once again being thrusted into an intriguing main event because he “loves wrestling.” He even did that horrible “I’m not leaving this ring” segment again. If he wins, Smackdown’s already pitiful ratings will sink once again. Do any of you honestly still like this guy?
 
#45 ·
In 2014 he absolutely SHOULD have been in the main event, because it was organic. He finally won the title at Summerslam 2013 only to have it snatched away by Orton cashing in and the Authority holding him down, which sent him on 6 month mission to get the title back. It was good, compelling storytelling. The people were behind him and he had so much momentum.

This year, he's been shoehorned into the match because Vince randomly decided he doesn't want to see Edge/Reigns. I don't like it personally, because I think it totally tarnishes the Rumble, and to me Bryan has just come off as whiny after losing twice. But obviously none of that is Bryan's fault, he's just doing what he's told, and I think he's in there to take the pin from Edge so they can protect Reigns.
 
#62 ·
By using that logic, everyone not named Charlotte or Roman Reigns deserves this spot. Miz put over Bray Wyatt (not even the Fiend) and Shane McMahon, and as a thanks he got a 14 day title run before WM, and now he´s stuck in the death spot with the stupid bunny.
You don´t "deserve" a promotion by just doing your job.. And remember, Bryan is on the creative team, he helps write these angles now, which is sketchy since he´s all of a sudden in a WM main event again...
Bryan does deserve one last WM main event, but it should be a singles match against Edge.. Loser retires.
 
#48 ·
I wasn't a fan of the YES movement, the chants, the whole build-up to that match in 2014. But Triple H vs Daniel Bryan is one of the greatest matches I've ever seen and that triple threat was also one of the best main events of all time.

Mind you, I'd have liked Batista vs Randy Orton as well, but honestly Daniel Bryan's story(even though I wasn't a fan of the YES chants and fans hijacking shows) and involvement at WM30 elevated that show to a whole new level, gave us TWO classic matches on the same night, and an incredible wrestlemania moment and one of the more memorable Wrestlemanias in the shitty decade that was 2010s.

I just can't fathom how someone could dislike the entire work, career and legacy of someone so talented as Daniel Bryan. The 2018-2019 heel run as the planet's champion, his matches with Punk and Styles, and Roman and Triple H are some of the best ever. That's not even including the matches he's had with Orton and Sheamus.

I just don't get how someone could dislike Bryan being in the main event of Wrestlemania.
 
#51 ·
When Bryan got those receptions and that super push, I knew the business as I understood it was dead. The crowds were totally different from just a few years earlier, all the normal fans had been replaced by vocal smart marks. It was embarrassing to watch.

I don't think Bryan is a bad talent, he's just not main event material. His heel work is solid, but his babyface shit was embarrassing and would either get crickets or boos even in as recent as 2008. Bryans run in 2014 was really just a glorified Kofi-mania, he had absolutely zero staying power, no one cared about him after a few months. Smart marks ruined Batistas return by hijacking shows for a guy that wasn't even that over in the grand scheme of things.
 
#52 ·
He then flopped tremendously as champion by sinking the ratings and only defended his title once in a terrible feud with Kane.
Have to give credit were it’s due, Extreme Rules 2014 Bryan vs Kane was an absolute solid match. Probably my favourite Kane match in fact.
 
#55 ·
Cry more
 
#60 ·
That Daniel Bryan was not in the main event plans for Wrestlemania in 2014 when he had spent the past 6 months or more having people (not just 'neckbeards', arenas full of people) in buildings all over the country chanting for him in a way that hadn't been seen since probably the Attitude era just speaks volumes to the stupidity of the WWE. The main event is exactly where he belonged, and that they had someone that hot and tried to go back to some - you say really intriguing, I say - really crappy feud where, oh, what genius, have the two Evolution guys fight each other (what was really intriguing about it to you? It never even got started, Batista was booed off the air at the Rumble) just tells you all you need to know about what a bucket of shit this company had become.

Super Cena was a problem because it was done again and again and again ad nauseum. The idea of a babyface getting hurt and going out and overcoming the odds was not invented in the age of John Cena or Daniel Bryan, it's about as old as pro-wrestling itself, and it works. Especially when you're doing a one night narrative. Yeah, the stuff with Kane was fucking terrible, but he wasn't on the creative team so you can't put that on him, you also can't blame him for getting a concussion.

Also, ratings didn't bomb? :unsure: Don't just make stuff up to try and eke out an argument. Ratings always go down after Wrestlemania, the drop was no worse than any other year. 2012/13/14 the average numbers were basically steady. The big drops were before and after that.

As for what's happening this year, I mean seems like it'll be a better match with him in there. He's probably there to eat the pin to protect the other two, you don't seriously think he's going to win? The guy's been jobbing out to dudes for months and now he's in the main event of Wrestlemania? Read between the lines.

So, yes

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#65 ·
The fact that you think Daniel Bryan of all people is toxic is utterly hilarious. Name me one guy who has organically gotten themselves over to the extent that Bryan has in the last decade? Besides Becky and maybe Punk no one comes close. Who would you rather them push? Over the hill gassed after 5 mins Batista? Or Randy Orton who's had 15 f'n title reigns and often puts people to sleep with his promos? God forbid we should want something different in the main event scene. Bryan is an everyman who clearly knows how to get a crowd behind him as well as be a brand ambassador. If the guy was a foot taller you probably wouldn't be saying shit. Not every main event guy needs to be 7ft tall and jacked (spoiler alert: many of those guys can't do shit. Think Braun) Variety is good and Bryan can still draw so why not push him? He's had one Wrestlemania main event in his career up until this point and is a 5 time world champion. You have no idea what super cena booking is if you think that fits him in the slightest. Very few people are as technically skilled as he is in ring while he may not fit the bill as your standard main event guy he's more than earned his place as a top guy.
 
#68 ·
It's so weird to watch how they've actually done a great job with this Edge/Bryan/Roman feud and have a logical reason why each guy could win, yet some of you focus on Bryan and think it's then shit then because of him.

Like, what exactly do you want exactly?
 
#70 ·
I can respect Daniel Bryan for what he has accomplished and can admit that he's an amazing in ring performer however other than that there's nothing else. He's just someone that I've never gravitated to as a fan. I'm a huge Batista fan and was so happy when Batista won his second Royal Rumble match and I was very much looking forward to the Batista/Orton match at WM30. I didn't (and still don't) like the fact that Daniel Bryan was added to that match.

I've been enjoying Roman Reigns' heel turn since his return and I've generally always enjoyed his matches but I've just never liked Edge, I personally don't see him as a big star so I've been kinda lukewarm to this match. I still believe Roman Reigns will win and retain his championship though.

Edge was always known as the ultimate opportunist and has always been much more effective as a heel so I'm glad that they have taken that direction, it makes the match a little bit more interesting for me. I have no problem with Bryan being added to the match this year though. It brings a little bit of unpredictability to the match. I still think Roman Reigns wins though.
 
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#75 ·
He was thrusted into a really intriguing main event between Batista and Orton because the neckbeards cried and threatened creative if they didn’t add him to the match and have him win it. We got a horrendous storyline about this underdog fighting the authority, which had been done so many times prior. People who hated Super Cena loved it when an injured Bryan beat Triple H, Batista and Orton in the same night, even after being carted off on a stretcher. He then flopped tremendously as champion by sinking the ratings and only defended his title once in a terrible feud with Kane. How can anyone say he never got his chance? They gave it to him right there and he BOMBED.

Fast forward to 2021. Daniel Bryan is once again being thrusted into an intriguing main event because he “loves wrestling.” He even did that horrible “I’m not leaving this ring” segment again. If he wins, Smackdown’s already pitiful ratings will sink once again. Do any of you honestly still like this guy?

None of that is true.

To an impressive extent really.

Starting out by saying Batista vs Orton was interesting and it was just "neckbears crying for Daniel" kills your whole argument right out of the gate

The only part of your post that has a semblance of truth is the feud with Kane. Yeah, that sucked, but everyone knew it was going to suck, because Kane at that point sucked.

The Kane feud wasn't even the main event feud that month, it was Shield vs Evolution so if you're going to blame ratings on the main event, you're not even barking up the right tree.

Finally... Bryan isn't getting "thrusted" into the the match because he "loves wrestling" he's being put into the match because no one gives a shit about it except you.
 
#78 ·
Bryan in storyline is indeed selfish.

-Didn't win the RR that was Edge who survived from the No1 spot.

-Bryan won EC and got his Title shot right after, Roman found a loophole(Heel roleplay) and lost via Submission.

-Bryan earned another Title opportunity by beating Jey Uso then subsequently lost via Pinfall at Fastlane not DQ or Countout which would have given him leverage to demand another shot.

-He manipulated his way into the Main Event of WrestleMania taking a page out of Heel Edge's playbook while Edge is solely justified in his frustration and his recent actions display that clearly.

Bryan to me is the low key Heel here yet Edge will be the one who loses the plot for a better plan ahead post WM37.
 
#79 ·
This is the problem with these troll posters, they spew their revisionist history and try to get everything else to buy into it.

Bryan was over on a different level. He had support from people in other major sports. Bryan didn’t flop as champion, he was working injured and had to relinquish his title because of the serious neck injury. Had Bryan not been in the WM 30, everyone would’ve universally hated that Mania because of the streak ending. Fans would’ve left home angry and they were completely silent during the Diva's match after the streak match. Bryan actually helped saved that Mania and lifted everyone’s spirits to get behind him and they universally cheered his win.
 
#82 ·
It baffles my mind that some people think Batista vs. Orton would have been good. I'm not sure if people saw Batista work, but the years were not kind to him. I like both Batista and Orton but that match would have shit the bed without Bryan in it. The crowd would have been totally deflated and dead after the Streak being broken, too.

I'm not saying Edge vs. Roman wouldn't have been good without Bryan, but I don't see why people are so worked up with his inclusion. He will only make the match more fun in my opinion.
 
#84 ·
Two completly different situations. In early 2014 Bryan was by far the most over wrestler in the world. 2013 was his year thus it was an embarrasment having something like Orton vs Batista (a match we'd seen a billion times) mainevent over him. They butchered his run.

He doesnt need to be in the mainevent this year but they are not even comparable. Orton vs Batista wouldve been shit. Adding Bryan got us one of the best mania endings ever.
 
#100 ·
Two completly different situations. In early 2014 Bryan was by far the most over wrestler in the world. 2013 was his year thus it was an embarrasment having something like Orton vs Batista (a match we'd seen a billion times) mainevent over him. They butchered his run.

He doesnt need to be in the mainevent this year but they are not even comparable. Orton vs Batista wouldve been shit. Adding Bryan got us one of the best mania endings ever.
No they didn't.. they gave him the push of a lifetime, from MITB 2013 all the way to WM30 he was booked like the ultimate underdog fighting his way through the heels until he finally got his magical moment at WM30. Hell, the recreated the Corporation as a heel factory solely for him.
Once he got his moment he couldn't keep his momentum rising, and tbf the majority of those supporting him pre WM30 were not as passionate about him once he finally made it to the top. He didn't have that captivating character that Punk had which created his following.
From a character standpoint, back then Bryan only thrived because of being an underdog in the fans and smarks' eyes, his character in itself is very narrow and two-dimensional.. you can only go as far with that cookie-cutter, good-fightning underdog
 
#88 ·
I wouldn't call the guy a troll, he just doesn't like Bryan which is completely fair and justified. Bryan was my favourite back in 2014 and I loved it all at the time, but looking back on it now I probably would have happily taken Orton vs Batista if they'd just kept Bryan vs HHH as a seperate match as a whole.
He is a troll, he’s spewing nonsense that can easily be countered with facts.

Anyways Orton vs Batista would’ve sucked big time, especially after the streak ending. Batista had a rubbish match with Triple H at WM35, do you think a match against Orton would’ve been any better. There is no way those two could’ve saved that mania. People were already against Batista and they didn’t want Orton to holding the belt. Batista returned at the wrong time. He thought he would be loved by the fans just like The Rock, but it fell flat.

Had Batista returned after that years Summerslam where Lesnar was the champion, then things would’ve been different. That would’ve generated blockbuster interest, but that’s Batista's fault for not wanting to wrestle Lesnar.

Also Orton and Batista were a product of the 2005-10 product. From 2011 the product was changing and there was a new for newer stars. In no way should’ve Orton and Batista been the main event. Bryan helped change the guard from Cena to Reigns.
 
#92 ·
Since 2014, this guy has ruined everything he touches. He was thrusted into a really intriguing main event between Batista and Orton because the neckbeards cried and threatened creative if they didn’t add him to the match and have him win it. We got a horrendous storyline about this underdog fighting the authority, which had been done so many times prior. People who hated Super Cena loved it when an injured Bryan beat Triple H, Batista and Orton in the same night, even after being carted off on a stretcher. He then flopped tremendously as champion by sinking the ratings and only defended his title once in a terrible feud with Kane. How can anyone say he never got his chance? They gave it to him right there and he BOMBED.

Fast forward to 2021. Daniel Bryan is once again being thrusted into an intriguing main event because he “loves wrestling.” He even did that horrible “I’m not leaving this ring” segment again. If he wins, Smackdown’s already pitiful ratings will sink once again. Do any of you honestly still like this guy?
Awwww, cry about 2014 and Bootista some more.

Styles and Bryan and the only reasons I still bother with WWE