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So you have the likes of Jake the Snake, Bobby Heenan, Ric Flair, Ted DiBiasi, Jim Ross, Jim Cornette, Vince McMahon until the year 2014, HHH until the year 2014, Bruce Prichard, Bad News Brown ("Warrior hated the business, had no respect for it, and was in it just for the money"), Tito Santana ("I don't have too much respect for the Warrior, because he didn't respect the business. I remember when he came in, he had nothing, starving, begging for a job, begging for help. Then he became a star, completely changed, and all of a sudden he didn't have time for you."), Demolition Ax ("When Warrior first started, was in chiropractic school, trying to get into wrestling, I ran into him. Later on when he became a wrestler, I won't speak ill of the dead, but he was a different guy. I don't think he liked wrestling, he knew he was making good money at it, I don't think he had any respect for wrestling. I never had any personal issues with him, but I noticed when we were doing autograph signings with him, he wanted to get away, isolate himself from the rest of us, didn't want to be around us, as if we had a disease or something. As a wrestler, he was tough to work with, I don't think he had any interest in learning, I don't think he though he had to learn anything, and I don't think he had any interest in having good matches.") , and so on and on.

These are all people who were involved in a major capacity during Warrior's first, main run, working directly against him, or working shows with him, working on the same cards as him, and the criticisms that they have of him are remarkably similar. Or they're people who were involved in the WWF late 80s or early 90s in a major capacity behind the scenes. Talentless, asshole, didn't respect business, and so on.

So you ignore all that, because you're a fan in denial, and cherry pick people like Valentine, or several other people who weren't even Warrior's contemporaries in the WWF.

I think it's pretty clear that you're not level headed or honest on this issue.
you ignored the several people who did speak highly of Warrior

Sherri
Savage
RVD
Ahmed
Shane Douglas

almost like you're.....cherry picking?

take your L bro. the only one that's not level headed is you which is probably who you deleted your uninformed posts. you discredit everything anyone says good about him for one stupid reason or another. stop acting like 0 people liked him cause it's clearly false.

"no one ever liked him"

enter proof that many people did

"well i'm only talking about when he was on top"

keep changing your argument dude.......you'll still lose lmao
 

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you ignored the several people who did speak highly of Warrior

Sherri
Savage
RVD
Ahmed
Shane Douglas

almost like you're.....cherry picking?
Let's just make this simple, and skip to the tally, shall we?

Ultimate Warrior worked in WWF (1987-1992; 1996), and WCW (1998).

Liked Warrior:

Ahmed worked in WWF for a few months of Warrior's 1996 run.

Shane Douglas in WWF, very briefly, for 1990-1991, and was away for part of that period.

Greg Valentine worked in WWE for 1983-1991, so he counts as a contemporary.

Sherri counts as a contemporary, she worked WWF in 1987-1993.

I will help you out here, and even give you

Honky Tonk Man: who has spoken favourably of Warrior and was a contemporary. (1986-1991).

Tally: 5 people thus far.

Disqualified:

RVD: did not work in any of those places with Warrior. So safe to say he's disqualified.

Savage: You have not presented any comments from Savage's mouth thus far that showed that he regarded Warrior as a friend. The only thing the other poster posted was a video of Warrior sharing his thoughts on Savage. Not Savage's thoughts on Warriors. So Savage does not count, unless you can furnish some direct comments. At least a few people who knew Savage have said he did not like Warrior, including Ted Dibiasi.

People who hated or disliked Warrior:

Andre: in WWF from 1971-1991, and worked a high profile feud with him.

Hogan: in WWF 1984-1993. Carried Warrior to the greatest night of his career.

Bobby Heenan: in WWF 1983-1993. Worked long main event feud with Warrior, and bitterly bashed him for years and years, before, during, and after the DVD.

Ted DiBiasi: in WWF 1987-1996.

Jim Cornette: in WWF 1993-2005.

Prichard: in WWF 1987-1991, 1992-2008, as a high level behind the scenes henchman for Vince.

Vince McMahon: hated Warrior until their reconciliation in 2014.

HHH: in WWF 1996-present, hated Warrior until 2014.

Jim Ross: in WWF 1993-2013.

Demolition Ax: in WWF 1986-1990. Knew him from before his wrestling days.

Tito Santana: in WWF 1983-1993.

Jake the Snake: in WWF 1886-1992, 1996-1997.

The Mountie: in WWF 1986-1994.

Bret hart: in WWF 1984-1997.

Bad News Brown: in WWF 1988-1990.

Brutus Beefcake: in WWF 1984-1993.

Rick Rude: in WWF 1987-1990.

Mean Gene: in WWF 1984-1993.

I am sure there are others, but I will top here.

Compare my list to yours. Which has more people, more Warrior contemporaries which has more people who worked intensively with Warrior during his one, main stint in wrestling, that was his peak, 1987-1992? Which list has some of the greatest and most respected wrestling personalities in the business? It's not even fucking close. Remotely.

take your L bro. the only one that's not level headed is you which is probably who you deleted your uninformed posts. you discredit everything anyone says good about him for one stupid reason or another. stop acting like 0 people liked him cause it's clearly false.
The only person unable to take their L is you. Apparently you think that pointing out my initially hyperbolic statement that 'literally no one likes Warrior' is not literally true and pointing out that actually 'Well, a tiny minority of his peers did like him.' is some sort of winning retort and vindication of Warrior's personality. All you've done is forced me off my maximalist position of 'Everyone hated Warrior' to 'Most of his peers hated him, overwhelmingly, including some of the greatest wrestlers from the WWF's 1980s, which was Warrior's peak run in wrestling.'

If you think that counts as a solid defense of Warrior, you're delusional.
 

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Let's just make this simple, and skip to the tally, shall we?

Ultimate Warrior worked in WWF (1987-1992; 1996), and WCW (1998).

Liked Warrior:

Ahmed worked in WWF for a few months of Warrior's 1996 run.

Shane Douglas in WWF, very briefly, for 1990-1991, and was away for part of that period.

Greg Valentine worked in WWE for 1983-1991, so he counts as a contemporary.

Sherri counts as a contemporary, she worked WWF in 1987-1993.

I will help you out here, and even give you

Honky Tonk Man: who has spoken favourably of Warrior and was a contemporary. (1986-1991).

Tally: 5 people thus far.

Disqualified:

RVD: did not work in any of those places with Warrior. So safe to say he's disqualified.

Savage: You have not presented any comments from Savage's mouth thus far that showed that he regarded Warrior as a friend. The only thing the other poster posted was a video of Warrior sharing his thoughts on Savage. Not Savage's thoughts on Warriors. So Savage does not count, unless you can furnish some direct comments. At least a few people who knew Savage have said he did not like Warrior, including Ted Dibiasi.

People who hated or disliked Warrior:

Andre: in WWF from 1971-1991, and worked a high profile feud with him.

Hogan: in WWF 1984-1993. Carried Warrior to the greatest night of his career.

Bobby Heenan: in WWF 1983-1993. Worked long main event feud with Warrior, and bitterly bashed him for years and years, before, during, and after the DVD.

Ted DiBiasi: in WWF 1987-1996.

Jim Cornette: in WWF 1993-2005.

Prichard: in WWF 1987-1991, 1992-2008, as a high level behind the scenes henchman for Vince.

Vince McMahon: hated Warrior until their reconciliation in 2014.

HHH: in WWF 1996-present, hated Warrior until 2014.

Jim Ross: in WWF 1993-2013.

Demolition Ax: in WWF 1986-1990. Knew him from before his wrestling days.

Tito Santana: in WWF 1983-1993.

Jake the Snake: in WWF 1886-1992, 1996-1997.

The Mountie: in WWF 1986-1994.

Bret hart: in WWF 1984-1997.

Bad News Brown: in WWF 1988-1990.

Brutus Beefcake: in WWF 1984-1993.

Rick Rude: in WWF 1987-1990.

Mean Gene: in WWF 1984-1993.

I am sure there are others, but I will top here.

Compare my list to yours. Which has more people, more Warrior contemporaries which has more people who worked intensively with Warrior during his one, main stint in wrestling, that was his peak, 1987-1992? Which list has some of the greatest and most respected wrestling personalities in the business? It's not even fucking close. Remotely.



The only person unable to take their L is you. Apparently you think that pointing out my initially hyperbolic statement that 'literally no one likes Warrior' is not literally true and pointing out that actually 'Well, a tiny minority of his peers did like him.' is some sort of winning retort and vindication of Warrior's personality. All you've done is forced me off my maximalist position of 'Everyone hated Warrior' to 'Most of his peers hated him, overwhelmingly, including some of the greatest wrestlers from the WWF's 1980s, which was Warrior's peak run in wrestling.'

If you think that counts as a solid defense of Warrior, you're delusional.
no one ever said Warrior was perfect and was liked by everyone.


you're a weirdo throwing a hissy fit whenever someone points out the MULTIPLE people who enjoyed working with warrior and who thought he was a great guy. "RVD didn't work with himso he doesn't count!!!!" "shane mcmahon who spent a good amount of time with him doesn't count!!!" what????? lmaoooooooo that's like me saying "Cornette is a wackjob weirdo so his opinion is disqualified!!!!"

is there more who weren't fond of him? yea but that doesn't make him hated by everyone, especially in his later years when a guys who did not like him like Jake said he had changed as a person a lot for the better. theres a bunch of people who were motivated by his speeches in life as well. but they didn't work with him so he's disqualified lmaoo what a crybaby you are
 

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no one ever said Warrior was perfect and was liked by everyone.


you're a weirdo throwing a hissy fit whenever someone points out the MULTIPLE people who enjoyed working with warrior and who thought he was a great guy. "RVD didn't work with himso he doesn't count!!!!" "shane mcmahon who spent a good amount of time with him doesn't count!!!" what????? lmaoooooooo that's like me saying "Cornette is a wackjob weirdo so his opinion is disqualified!!!!"

is there more who weren't fond of him? yea but that doesn't make him hated by everyone, especially in his later years when a guys who did not like him like Jake said he had changed as a person a lot for the better. theres a bunch of people who were motivated by his speeches in life as well. but they didn't work with him so he's disqualified lmaoo what a crybaby you are
The way this guy's crying I'm starting to think he is in fact Dana Warrior.

Write's three tear filled paragraphs and calls someone else a cry baby.

:ROFLMAO:
 

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no one ever said Warrior was perfect and was liked by everyone.


you're a weirdo throwing a hissy fit whenever someone points out the MULTIPLE people who enjoyed working with warrior and who thought he was a great guy. "RVD didn't work with himso he doesn't count!!!!" "shane mcmahon who spent a good amount of time with him doesn't count!!!" what????? lmaoooooooo that's like me saying "Cornette is a wackjob weirdo so his opinion is disqualified!!!!"

is there more who weren't fond of him? yea but that doesn't make him hated by everyone, especially in his later years when a guys who did not like him like Jake said he had changed as a person a lot for the better. theres a bunch of people who were motivated by his speeches in life as well. but they didn't work with him so he's disqualified lmaoo what a crybaby you are
RVD didn't ever work in any of those places with Warrior. Not a single day. So, no, he doesn't count. Warrior asked him to train him for his 2008 wrestling return. Being someone's co-worker and asking someone to do you a favour or help you are not equivalent relationships. As Tito Santana himself earlier in this thread, when Warrior needed help and was desperate, he would be all around you, and then when he became a giant star, he was a asshole who didn't have any time for you. Seems to track that pattern well.

Shane McMahon didn't spend virtually any time with him. He was a high school kid, and then a university student at the University of Boston, for the entirety of Warrior's run. This was in an era where there were no cell phones, there was no Internet, and the WWF was touring 300+ dates a year all across the country. The idea that Shane was spending lots of quality time with Warrior is literally impossible under those situations. Also, he was the boss's son. Not the same thing as being a co-worker.

Jake said Warrior was gigantic asshole, for years. Warrior only apologized literally 48 hours before Warrior died. I don't see how that absolves Warrior. That doesn't magically erase all the assholery that Warrior did. Shawn Michaels was also likewise an asshole during the 1990s and most of his peers will tell you that. They will also say that he changed for the better in 2002, when he returned. But no one pretends that change magically erases or changes the things Shawn did in the 90s.

Keep crying in denial.
 

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The way this guy's crying I'm starting to think he is in fact Dana Warrior.

Write's three tear filled paragraphs and calls someone else a cry baby.

:ROFLMAO:
RVD didn't ever work in any of those places with Warrior. Not a single day. So, no, he doesn't count. Warrior asked him to train him for his 2008 wrestling return. Being someone's co-worker and asking someone to do you a favour or help you are not equivalent relationships. As Tito Santana himself earlier in this thread, when Warrior needed help and was desperate, he would be all around you, and then when he became a giant star, he was a asshole who didn't have any time for you. Seems to track that pattern well.

Shane McMahon didn't spend virtually any time with him. He was a high school kid, and then a university student at the University of Boston, for the entirety of Warrior's run. This was in an era where there were no cell phones, there was no Internet, and the WWF was touring 300+ dates a year all across the country. The idea that Shane was spending lots of quality time with Warrior is literally impossible under those situations. Also, he was the boss's son. Not the same thing as being a co-worker.

Jake said Warrior was gigantic asshole, for years. Warrior only apologized literally 48 hours before Warrior died. I don't see how that absolves Warrior. That doesn't magically erase all the assholery that Warrior did. Shawn Michaels was also likewise an asshole during the 1990s and most of his peers will tell you that. They will also say that he changed for the better in 2002, when he returned. But no one pretends that change magically erases or changes the things Shawn did in the 90s.

Keep crying in denial.
not gonna retread anything i've said cause yall wanna change the narrative every time and ignore the fact many people enjoyed working and training with him and just being around him in general

soft boys 2021 squad right here
 

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"always a gentleman, wish i could have spent more time with him and get to know him better"

"loved him, stood up for all the boys during a tour in Germany when promoters were lowballing them"

"always a good guy to us"

plus DDP saying he was always cool to him and he liked him in his breif wcw stint.

the fact some weirdos can't do this themselves to form an opinion is very telling....

oh wait but im sure these are just more guys who's opinion don't count....even though they worked with warrior.....a lot....
 

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"always a gentleman, wish i could have spent more time with him and get to know him better"

"loved him, stood up for all the boys during a tour in Germany when promoters were lowballing them"

"always a good guy to us"

plus DDP saying he was always cool to him and he liked him in his breif wcw stint.

the fact some weirdos can't do this themselves to form an opinion is very telling....

oh wait but im sure these are just more guys who's opinion don't count....even though they worked with warrior.....a lot....
SO much crying.

Gotta remind myself to invest in some tissue stock.

I know someone that plays violin if you'd like to hire them sometime to play while you cry and post.

edit: also Animal was a racist cunt too. Racist standing up for fellow racist... not the best defense.
 

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you ignored the several people who did speak highly of Warrior

Sherri
Savage
RVD
Ahmed
Shane Douglas

almost like you're.....cherry picking?

take your L bro. the only one that's not level headed is you which is probably who you deleted your uninformed posts. you discredit everything anyone says good about him for one stupid reason or another. stop acting like 0 people liked him cause it's clearly false.

"no one ever liked him"

enter proof that many people did

"well i'm only talking about when he was on top"

keep changing your argument dude.......you'll still lose lmao
You're either trying super hard to play Devil's advocate, or you're a fanboy to the highest order. You can watch video of Warrior being an absolute toolbag and biggot. The fact that 99% of people that had to deal with him speaks horribly isn't discounted by the handful of people that had decent experiences.

I'm sure some people did have good interactions with him. Cool.
 

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Sean Mooney explains why he thought that the Warrior didn't get along with everyone.

He thinks that Warrior was a sweet person, and a good person despite being more of a loner.
 

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Sean Mooney explains why he thought that the Warrior didn't get along with everyone.

He thinks that Warrior was a sweet person, and a good person despite being more of a loner.
Lol, the dude blamed Hurricane Katrina victims and basically called them opportunists and attention whores.

His thoughts on Heath Ledger:

"By today's standard, though, I do have to agree that he was a great father. Perhaps even greater then the father of the year, Hulk Hogan. After all, Leather Hedger did what it took to kill himself. His kid is without a father, yes, but the negative influence is now removed and his own child has the chance for a full recovery. "

On Bobby Heenan:

"As for you, Booby Heenan, it's just too difficult to keep a straight face talking about the pure two-faced bag of sh– you are (and have always been), what, with you also actually wearing one as a piece of body jewelry. You are dying, dis-eased on the inside, and no more time is left to get back any of the integrity that matters the most on death's bed. Imagine what it will be like, lying there taking in your last breaths, knowing you whored yourself out your whole life, and had to, in your final years, be faced with emptying your own personal sh–– bag affirming to you the true value of what you achieved in your life. Not even Vince could come up with a better finish than this. Karma is just a beautiful thing to behold."

On MLK:

"Martin marched a few times from Selma, AL to Montgomery, AL. It's only about 40 miles and he walked along paved roads with security escorts and modern comforts and conveniences. He wrote a few jailhouse letters, plagiarized a great many speeches, and played up his last name "King" as if he was ONE. He led his best rally amid the monuments of Washington, DC. He preached proper, righteous behavior while he at the same time committed adultery many publicly verifiable times — oh, and he had "a dream." One to see a race of people freed completely from discriminate oppression. "




Yea, totally a misunderstood sweetheart. lmao
 

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Bobby Heenan had an injured neck, was working a match with Warrior, and told him beforehand to avoid/protect his neck. During the match, Warrior directly targetted Heenan head on in the neck, injuring him further, refused to apologize, and when confronted by Heenan about why he didn't protect him, Warrior replied, 'I just do what I want in the ring, in the moment. I don't think about it.'

Totally the hallmark of a misunderstood sweetheart and not a gigantic asshole who violated one of the most basic norms of wrestling: protect your fucking opponent, especially if they're already badly hurt and tell you to do so. The level of clownish fandom and delusion and denial in this thread is off the chart galactic level.
 

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Lol, the dude blamed Hurricane Katrina victims and basically called them opportunists and attention whores.

His thoughts on Heath Ledger:

"By today's standard, though, I do have to agree that he was a great father. Perhaps even greater then the father of the year, Hulk Hogan. After all, Leather Hedger did what it took to kill himself. His kid is without a father, yes, but the negative influence is now removed and his own child has the chance for a full recovery. "

On Bobby Heenan:

"As for you, Booby Heenan, it's just too difficult to keep a straight face talking about the pure two-faced bag of sh– you are (and have always been), what, with you also actually wearing one as a piece of body jewelry. You are dying, dis-eased on the inside, and no more time is left to get back any of the integrity that matters the most on death's bed. Imagine what it will be like, lying there taking in your last breaths, knowing you whored yourself out your whole life, and had to, in your final years, be faced with emptying your own personal sh–– bag affirming to you the true value of what you achieved in your life. Not even Vince could come up with a better finish than this. Karma is just a beautiful thing to behold."

On MLK:

"Martin marched a few times from Selma, AL to Montgomery, AL. It's only about 40 miles and he walked along paved roads with security escorts and modern comforts and conveniences. He wrote a few jailhouse letters, plagiarized a great many speeches, and played up his last name "King" as if he was ONE. He led his best rally amid the monuments of Washington, DC. He preached proper, righteous behavior while he at the same time committed adultery many publicly verifiable times — oh, and he had "a dream." One to see a race of people freed completely from discriminate oppression. "




Yea, totally a misunderstood sweetheart. lmao
I know that he's said some controversial things. I also know that he didn't get along with everyone. Warrior was clearly someone that was emotional and distrusted people.

I'm just pointing out that the opinion on him isn't entirely slanted in one direction. There's a good number of his peers that liked him and got along with him well. It's entirely possible that Warrior was sweet to some people, like Mooney claims.
 

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I know that he's said some controversial things. I also know that he didn't get along with everyone. Warrior was clearly someone that was emotional and distrusted people.
'I voted for X person' is maybe a controversial statement. Bashing MLK in the year 2005, or Katrina victims is not a 'controversial' opinion. It's a reprehensible opinion that 99% of people would deem as assholish. Keep contorting yourself into a pretzel further.
 

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'I voted for X person' is maybe a controversial statement. Bashing MLK in the year 2005, or Katrina victims is not a 'controversial' opinion. It's a reprehensible opinion that 99% of people would deem as assholish. Keep contorting yourself into a pretzel further.
So he bashed MLK because he thought that MLK committed adultery. Wow Satan incarnate right here!

I originally quoted you because you wrote... and I'll quote you exactly:

{{{ all his peers - without a single exception - said about him: that he was a gigantic asshole, difficult to work with, misanthropic, narcissistic, and had a delusional superiority complex. }}}


^^^

I called out your bullshit because that's factually not the case. I gave over 20 examples of it not being the case. I never said that Warrior was nice to everyone and that everyone liked him, or ever insinuated that.
 

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So he bashed MLK because he thought that MLK committed adultery. Wow Satan incarnate right here!

I originally quoted you because you wrote... and I'll quote you exactly:

{{{ all his peers - without a single exception - said about him: that he was a gigantic asshole, difficult to work with, misanthropic, narcissistic, and had a delusional superiority complex. }}}


^^^

I called out your bullshit because that's factually not the case. I gave over 20 examples of it not being the case. I never said that Warrior was nice to everyone and that everyone liked him, or ever insinuated that.
I already conceded that I was being hyperbolic. The vast majority of the people who worked in the WWF with him on a regular basis called him a gigantic asshole, your cherrypicked list of a few people who felt otherwise, notwithstanding.

I'd like to hear more about how you think bashing the victims of a natural disaster is merely a 'controversial' or contentious viewpoint from a 'misunderstood sweetheart', and not just outright assholery and idiocy, though. Keep the excuses coming.
 

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I already conceded that I was being hyperbolic. The vast majority of the people who worked in the WWF with him on a regular basis called him a gigantic asshole, your cherrypicked list of a few people who felt otherwise, notwithstanding.

I'd like to hear more about how you think bashing the victims of a natural disaster is merely a 'controversial' or contentious viewpoint from a 'misunderstood sweetheart', and not just outright assholery and idiocy, though. Keep the excuses coming.
Who is the "vast majority"? I'm only asking because you like using hyperbole.


I know about Jake Roberts (who wasn't exactly known to be the best human being ether at the time), Jim Cornette (who bitches about almost everyone in the industry that didn't love it), Ted Dibiase, Jim Ross, Bobby Heenan, Hulk Hogan (who brought him into WCW btw).... who else?

Jake Roberts buried the hatchet with Warrior at the HOF. Ted Dibiase said he regrets not burying the hatchet with Warrior after hearing his HOF speech and being moved by it. Hulk Hogan told Warrior that he loved him at the HOF.
 

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So he bashed MLK because he thought that MLK committed adultery. Wow Satan incarnate right here!

I originally quoted you because you wrote... and I'll quote you exactly:

{{{ all his peers - without a single exception - said about him: that he was a gigantic asshole, difficult to work with, misanthropic, narcissistic, and had a delusional superiority complex. }}}


^^^

I called out your bullshit because that's factually not the case. I gave over 20 examples of it not being the case. I never said that Warrior was nice to everyone and that everyone liked him, or ever insinuated that.
yup.

homeboy wanna backtrack and change his narrative. same with the other soft boy
 

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SO much crying.

Gotta remind myself to invest in some tissue stock.

I know someone that plays violin if you'd like to hire them sometime to play while you cry and post.

edit: also Animal was a racist cunt too. Racist standing up for fellow racist... not the best defense.
crying from you maybe. cause you and your soft boy friend have been proven wrong

lol at saying Animal isn't a good defense but we should believe Jim Cornette 😂 😂
 
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