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Could WWE Kill TNA's Momentum?
I was replying too TNA>WWE thread when I realized something and had to make a thread about it.
A year ago, CM Punk's promo, MITB match, and entire angle got me a little disinterested in TNA, which was being taped at the time. It had seemed that change was coming to WWE(it didn't really) and because it was live, on the road, and edgy, everything WWE was doing just seemed to out do what TNA was doing at the time.
Now here we are a year later and TNA seems to be doing everything right, while WWE doesn't seem to know what they are doing. But how long will this last? The scary thing for TNA is that they have about 7 live shows remaining (unless Spike gives them more, they've already added one) and if the ratings don't increase, I'd be worried how they will look once the show returns to being taped weeks in advance.
If the show returns to being taped after these 7 weeks, it could be horrible for TNA. Not only have the fans become accustom to the live shows, but on July 23rd, when TNA will have 5 Guaranteed Live shows left, WWE is going 3 hours and with that they are bringing back Legends, Brock Lesnar, and might possibly debut Dean Ambrose. Who knows what tricks they will pull out of their sleeve. On top of that, there should also be an eventual return of The Rock. Can you imagine Raw's containing CM Punk, Bryan, Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, Brock Lesnar, The Rock, and other possibilities such as Taker, HHH, and the possibility of a Steve Austin/CM Punk feud?
Now some of those are only possibilities and time frames are also an isse, but what we do know is that Lesnar, along with other big names as well as debuts are joining the show on July 23rd and five weeks from then TNA might be taping the show again. With all the big names that could be involved and possible feuds (Paul Heyman/Dean Ambrose? vs Punk) will fans get disinterested with TNA, which has now gone back to being taped?
TNA can not go back to being taped and especially while WWE is gearing up to whoop some ass. If WWE does experience a wave of popularity in the coming months, TNA NEEDs to be LIVE to ride that wave with them. If the show is taped it could be crushed, but if the show is Live it could inherit some of that popularity.
Anyway, do you agree that going back to being taped would be awful especially considering the aftermath of WWE's 1000th episode?
A year ago, CM Punk's promo, MITB match, and entire angle got me a little disinterested in TNA, which was being taped at the time. It had seemed that change was coming to WWE(it didn't really) and because it was live, on the road, and edgy, everything WWE was doing just seemed to out do what TNA was doing at the time.
Now here we are a year later and TNA seems to be doing everything right, while WWE doesn't seem to know what they are doing. But how long will this last? The scary thing for TNA is that they have about 7 live shows remaining (unless Spike gives them more, they've already added one) and if the ratings don't increase, I'd be worried how they will look once the show returns to being taped weeks in advance.
If the show returns to being taped after these 7 weeks, it could be horrible for TNA. Not only have the fans become accustom to the live shows, but on July 23rd, when TNA will have 5 Guaranteed Live shows left, WWE is going 3 hours and with that they are bringing back Legends, Brock Lesnar, and might possibly debut Dean Ambrose. Who knows what tricks they will pull out of their sleeve. On top of that, there should also be an eventual return of The Rock. Can you imagine Raw's containing CM Punk, Bryan, Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, Brock Lesnar, The Rock, and other possibilities such as Taker, HHH, and the possibility of a Steve Austin/CM Punk feud?
Now some of those are only possibilities and time frames are also an isse, but what we do know is that Lesnar, along with other big names as well as debuts are joining the show on July 23rd and five weeks from then TNA might be taping the show again. With all the big names that could be involved and possible feuds (Paul Heyman/Dean Ambrose? vs Punk) will fans get disinterested with TNA, which has now gone back to being taped?
TNA can not go back to being taped and especially while WWE is gearing up to whoop some ass. If WWE does experience a wave of popularity in the coming months, TNA NEEDs to be LIVE to ride that wave with them. If the show is taped it could be crushed, but if the show is Live it could inherit some of that popularity.
Anyway, do you agree that going back to being taped would be awful especially considering the aftermath of WWE's 1000th episode?
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This topic is absolutely worthlesss because both companies are completely different in stature. Something happening on one end will hardly have an impact on the other
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So then lets say WWE could draw in 2 million more fans and get 2 million more people into wrestling, you don't think TNA would gain any viewers from that?
WWE always seems to kill the momentum of TNA. If TNA has a good PPV WWE will put on a better show the next night. And the TNA PPV will be forgotten. I'm expecting the same tonight. And I'm also expecting a big angle this summer which can also kill their momentum.
Of course they can, just wait until AJ lee does something stupid tonight and the entire wrestling world will jizz in their pants.
Does it really matter? Why can't people just enjoy the TNA product without being paranoid about what WWE does? Who the fuck cares.
WWE and TNA are not in competition, neither is or can affect the other.
WWE is far bigger and stronger than TNA, they are not concerned about what TNA is doing.
WWE is far bigger and stronger than TNA, they are not concerned about what TNA is doing.
No I dont agree that tna going back to taping there shows would be bad considering of the aftermath of WWE's 1000th Episode because Wwe is not gonna be able to have Undertaker,Rock,Heyman,Lesner,Rollin and Ambrose all on the show without it being a cluskerfuck and even with the Show being 3 hours because I mean raw would consist ofI was replying too TNA>WWE thread when I realized something and had to make a thread about it.
A year ago, CM Punk's promo, MITB match, and entire angle got me a little disinterested in TNA, which was being taped at the time. It had seemed that change was coming to WWE(it didn't really) and because it was live, on the road, and edgy, everything WWE was doing just seemed to out do what TNA was doing at the time.
Now here we are a year later and TNA seems to be doing everything right, while WWE doesn't seem to know what they are doing. But how long will this last? The scary thing for TNA is that they have about 7 live shows remaining (unless Spike gives them more, they've already added one) and if the ratings don't increase, I'd be worried how they will look once the show returns to being taped weeks in advance.
If the show returns to being taped after these 7 weeks, it could be horrible for TNA. Not only have the fans become accustom to the live shows, but on July 23rd, when TNA will have 5 Guaranteed Live shows left, WWE is going 3 hours and with that they are bringing back Legends, Brock Lesnar, and might possibly debut Dean Ambrose. Who knows what tricks they will pull out of their sleeve. On top of that, there should also be an eventual return of The Rock. Can you imagine Raw's containing CM Punk, Bryan, Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, Brock Lesnar, The Rock, and other possibilities such as Taker, HHH, and the possibility of a Steve Austin/CM Punk feud?
Now some of those are only possibilities and time frames are also an isse, but what we do know is that Lesnar, along with other big names as well as debuts are joining the show on July 23rd and five weeks from then TNA might be taping the show again. With all the big names that could be involved and possible feuds (Paul Heyman/Dean Ambrose? vs Punk) will fans get disinterested with TNA, which has now gone back to being taped?
TNA can not go back to being taped and especially while WWE is gearing up to whoop some ass. If WWE does experience a wave of popularity in the coming months, TNA NEEDs to be LIVE to ride that wave with them. If the show is taped it could be crushed, but if the show is Live it could inherit some of that popularity.
Anyway, do you agree that going back to being taped would be awful especially considering the aftermath of WWE's 1000th episode?
Heyman promo or Rock promo(Probably a cena one tbh honest because the Rock would doing a movie most of the time)
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Promo to do with the Wwe title or Bigger than the Wwe title feud
6 man tag filler match (with one of those super short "Do not try this at home" Advertisements inbetween)and a divas match
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If WWE disappeared tomorrow, you don't think more people would tune into TNA, buy the ppvs, and attend their shows?WWE and TNA are not in competition, neither is or can affect the other.
WWE is far bigger and stronger than TNA, they are not concerned about what TNA is doing.
When it comes to PPV's/attendance their is no denying that WWE and TNA are in competition, as well as the UFC.
Who wants to pay 60 bucks for a UFC fight and then 60 bucks for a WWE PPV? Alot of fans will even say "I wanted to buy that TNA PPV, but I don't buy many ppvs and I rather save and buy Mania."
I think if WWE became more popular, depending on how much popular, TNA would get more exposure as well, but if they all of a sudden stop doing live shows as WWE becomes more popular and their momentum dies down, people might not be interested in watching.
Thats why I said, the CM Punk angle last summer was so good that I lost interest in TNA and all I would do was read spoilers and not even watch. This could happen again if TNA goes back to being taped(with no surprises) and WWE starts rockin.
Probably not.If WWE disappeared tomorrow, you don't think more people would tune into TNA, buy the ppvs, and attend their shows?
1/2 the WWE fanbase thinks TNA is Tits and AssProbably not.
There on different days if anything it would help them . Most people armt wrestling snobs like the iwc
That's what I think. My theory is that WWE's ratings are about to pick up and that if TNA remains Live it puts itself in the best position to gain residual from WWE's popularity, but at the same time if it goes back to being taped weeks in advance as WWE begins to rise it will gain little to no residual and might actually turn off some viewers as WWE could become the far and away better product(just due to big names, being live, on the road, etc.)There on different days if anything it would help them . Most people armt wrestling snobs like the iwc
TNA booking & strategy > WWE right now, but WWE still have the logo & better production values
Close this awful thread. Shut up and enjoy the product ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
It serves both companies interests to promote the industry, sadly it's dog eat dog and lawsuit followed by lawsuit at the minute which really does nothing to help promote wrestling.
If interest in the industry continues to decline god knows where we will be in 10 years time, WWE clearly has the younger generation because that's who they have targeted in their PG 'no blood' era. TNA's got alot of the hardcore attitude/WCW/ECW fans who enjoy indy wrestlers getting a real push and enjoy a rawer product.
Reality is they'll both keep serving self interest to get those decimals rising in the ratings, not sure how you can compare the companies in any way. WCW went for 13 years, TNA's been going for 10 which in my view is an accomplishment. You can't compare mid 90s WCW to the TNA we see today, the whole environment socially and economically was different. 10 years ago if you would have said to me TNA would be live every week touring internationally and having good sized PPV crowds outside Florida I'd have have been over the moon.
I wont knock WWE at all, I wont knock any wrestling company, the corporate management side and inter company attitudes have always been the same which is the one thing that saddens me. WWE has it's product that it will change back to slightly more adult eventually I'm sure, TNA has it's and I can't foresee a day where TNA is on a par with WWE in ratings but that's ok they shouldn't be expected to.
Here's how I think the conversation in Connecticut goes 'hey Vince TNAs rating are growing to 1.0-1.2'... Vince wouldn't even bother replying. TNA do their thing WWE does theirs, I think TNA probably cares more about WWE than WWE cares about TNA. WWE know they wont get any of the TNA fans to switch products and you could argue most TNA fans wouldn't contemplate it. TNA however are trying to appeal to a WWE audience to get those fans to taste the Panda Energy juice, so it's 2 different situations commercially; size and level of 'giving a____'
I do expect WWE to increase their RAW ratings slightly over the summer, but TNA might get small gains which would be an accomplishment for them as well.
I went off on a bit of a monologue, what was the question again?
If interest in the industry continues to decline god knows where we will be in 10 years time, WWE clearly has the younger generation because that's who they have targeted in their PG 'no blood' era. TNA's got alot of the hardcore attitude/WCW/ECW fans who enjoy indy wrestlers getting a real push and enjoy a rawer product.
Reality is they'll both keep serving self interest to get those decimals rising in the ratings, not sure how you can compare the companies in any way. WCW went for 13 years, TNA's been going for 10 which in my view is an accomplishment. You can't compare mid 90s WCW to the TNA we see today, the whole environment socially and economically was different. 10 years ago if you would have said to me TNA would be live every week touring internationally and having good sized PPV crowds outside Florida I'd have have been over the moon.
I wont knock WWE at all, I wont knock any wrestling company, the corporate management side and inter company attitudes have always been the same which is the one thing that saddens me. WWE has it's product that it will change back to slightly more adult eventually I'm sure, TNA has it's and I can't foresee a day where TNA is on a par with WWE in ratings but that's ok they shouldn't be expected to.
Here's how I think the conversation in Connecticut goes 'hey Vince TNAs rating are growing to 1.0-1.2'... Vince wouldn't even bother replying. TNA do their thing WWE does theirs, I think TNA probably cares more about WWE than WWE cares about TNA. WWE know they wont get any of the TNA fans to switch products and you could argue most TNA fans wouldn't contemplate it. TNA however are trying to appeal to a WWE audience to get those fans to taste the Panda Energy juice, so it's 2 different situations commercially; size and level of 'giving a____'
I do expect WWE to increase their RAW ratings slightly over the summer, but TNA might get small gains which would be an accomplishment for them as well.
I went off on a bit of a monologue, what was the question again?
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