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if they are that powerful and that confident they could get away with it, what would a third party investigation really accomplish? couldn't they just as easily set up their own 'third party'.... or apply pressure to that third party and achieve the same result? and if they really are susceptible to a third party investigation why would they pull something like this? again the risk is so huge.

if people want to believe the police are behind this, i don't know what it would take to convince them otherwise. if by chance there's an investigation and the same suspects are named and found guilty of the crime... those weighing on the side of a conspiracy would probably still be hesitant to fully buy in because theoretically a 'corrupt and powerful' police dept can stage anything they want.
I just want to add that it isn't so unbelievable that a government entity may conspire to do something so nefarious. They've done much worse, so try and keep an open mind about it.
 

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Dallas PD killed that man and nothing will be done about it.

This can and will continue to happen to any Black man in America at any moment. This is our reality.
Yeah, this has nothing to do with police corruption. They didn't kill him because he testified against a cop. They killed him because they are racist. White dudes who testify against cops and get them sent to prison? They are given medals.

Because this is only about racism.

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Dallas PD killed that man and nothing will be done about it.

This can and will continue to happen to any Black man in America at any moment. This is our reality.
Yeah, this has nothing to do with police corruption. They didn't kill him because he testified against a cop. They killed him because they are racist. White dudes who testify against cops and get them sent to prison? They are given medals.

Because this is only about racism.

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You missed this post by me earlier.

Again, Joshua was symbolically shot in the mouth (for talking in court) and chest that killed him. This was revenge by Dallas PD and also a statement to anyone in the future who thinks about testifying against a cop on trial. It’s also another example of how expendable Black lives are to the white racists of America. Those who are silent or “forgiving” are complicit to these atrocities against humanity.
Of course this is about police corruption and them using their racist and oppressive system and media against Black men. In these murders I will not separate the two. Brandt Jean and Joshua Brown’s lives were tossed away like trash because of it, and on top of it they both were made to like dope head criminals who played some role in their own demise.
 

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You missed this post by me earlier.

Of course this is about police corruption and them using their racist and oppressive system and media against Black men. Brandt Jean and Joshua Brown’s lives were tossed away like trash because of it, and on top of it they both were made to like dope head criminals who played some role in their own demise.
so what is your theory regarding the suspects in custody?

were they paid off to take the fall or are they innocents being framed?
 

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My theory is there ain’t no way in hell anyone is going to convince me some dudes drove 4.5 hours from Louisiana to Texas for some weed.
you didn't answer the question.

if he had 11 lbs of marijuana in his apartment then he was probably selling wholesale to other dealers. and yes when it comes to large weight dealers travel across states all the time. they weren't traveling all that way for a twenty bag.

but again i ask what your theory is regarding the suspects in custody. since you're certain this was a police conspiracy it can only mean one of two things. either they are willing volunteers or they are innocents being framed.

which is it.
 

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My theory is there ain’t no way in hell anyone is going to convince me some dudes drove 4.5 hours from Louisiana to Texas for some weed.
If it's a substantial amount for a good price they would. Do we know the details of the drug deal?
 

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They would be scapegoats. More expendable Black men. Probably have a record so any crime or story by police is easily digestible by people like you. Happens all the time.

The bigger picture is strengthening the appeal of Amber G and weakening the civil suit against the Dallas PD. Along with sending a message to any future witness in a police involved trial.

They really need to get an outside investigation on this because in my eyes and many people eyes anything the Dallas PD says or does in this case is completely compromised. I don’t believe any statements or “evidence” they present to the public.
 

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My theory is there ain’t no way in hell anyone is going to convince me some dudes drove 4.5 hours from Louisiana to Texas for some weed.
If it's a substantial amount for a good price they would. Do we know the details of the drug deal?
Don’t know the details on the weed deal but police report:

“Police confiscated 12 pounds of marijuana, 149 grams of THC cartridges and $4,157 in cash during a search of Brown's home.”

They didn’t say how much weed the suspects them or Brown had on him in the parking lot where the deal and shooting took place.
 

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Don’t know the details on the weed deal but police report:

“Police confiscated 12 pounds of marijuana, 149 grams of THC cartridges and $4,157 in cash during a search of Brown's home.”

They didn’t say how much weed the suspects them or Brown had on him in the parking lot where the deal and shooting took place.
That's a lot of pot. If Brown was a weed dealer and had that much, it makes sense that the three Louisiana guys would go to him. I'm not saying this happened because I'm skeptical about this ordeal, but the cops' story is plausible.
 

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Don’t know the details on the weed deal but police report:

“Police confiscated 12 pounds of marijuana, 149 grams of THC cartridges and $4,157 in cash during a search of Brown's home.”

They didn’t say how much weed the suspects them or Brown had on him in the parking lot where the deal and shooting took place.
That's a lot of pot. If Brown was a weed dealer and had that much, it makes sense that the three Louisiana guys would go to him. I'm not saying this happened because I'm skeptical about this ordeal, but the cops' story is plausible.
Plausible if the evidence wasn’t planted...

If we’re to believe Dallas PD, a drug dealer (not a corner boy. Someone with a significant amount of weight and other contraband) voluntarily cooperated with the prosecutor to testify against a cop who lived in his building. And he was dealing out of his apartment a floor away.

Make it make sense.
 

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Plausible if the evidence wasn’t planted...

If we’re to believe Dallas PD, a drug dealer (not a corner boy. Someone with a significant amount of weight and other contraband) voluntarily cooperated with the prosecutor to testify against a cop who lived in his building. And he was dealing out of his apartment a floor away.

Make it make sense.
Yes that is an odd part of this I agree. But guys coming from Louisiana to get pot happens all the time.
 

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Plausible if the evidence wasn’t planted...

If we’re to believe Dallas PD, a drug dealer (not a corner boy. Someone with a significant amount of weight and other contraband) voluntarily cooperated with the prosecutor to testify against a cop who lived in his building. And he was dealing out of his apartment a floor away.

Make it make sense.
there's nothing to make sense of. you are the one doing all the reaching.

there were no senators, mayors or high level officials involved in this case. nobody of importance needed to be protected. she was an ordinary cop at the bottom of the chain and she had already been convicted. it makes zero sense for the dallas police to take such an unnecessary risk to send a 'symbolic message'. the fallout would be monumental.

at this point is there anything that would convince you the police weren't involved? i mean clearly arresting two suspects isn't enough, and any evidence they found you automatically assume is planted anyway.

what would possibly put your conspiracy theory to rest? or is there no convincing? and again what's your opinion regarding the suspects?
 

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Plausible if the evidence wasn’t planted...

If we’re to believe Dallas PD, a drug dealer (not a corner boy. Someone with a significant amount of weight and other contraband) voluntarily cooperated with the prosecutor to testify against a cop who lived in his building. And he was dealing out of his apartment a floor away.

Make it make sense.
Yes that is an odd part of this I agree. But guys coming from Louisiana to get pot happens all the time.
And that’s what they want us to believe. Criminals just being criminals shooting each other up. They should have the FBI/outside agency investigate to confirm these facts.
 

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Yes that is an odd part of this I agree. But guys coming from Louisiana to get pot happens all the time.
a quick look at buddy's instagram will show you he wasn't the smartest guy in the room. yes it is rather stupid for someone dealing drugs to put themselves anywhere in the vicinity of the law, but you have to be somewhat slow to be a criminal or a drug dealer in the first place. there are several cases every year of criminals openly exposing themselves on social media and being arrested as a result. they aren't the smartest bunch.

the fact that he testified and appeared in court doesn't automatically absolve him from possibly being a drug dealer on the low. maybe he wanted fame and notoriety, or much more likely... maybe he felt like doing what was right and speaking the truth. it would also look highly suspicious if he were subpoenaed and refused to testify.

now if his family is insisting this is all BS, and he had no enemies, and he was a straight shooter who would never ever put himself anywhere near that kind of situation... then by all means i think it would serve the public to open an investigation. and if the dallas PD refused i would be suspicious of it.
 

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a quick look at buddy's instagram will show you he wasn't the smartest guy in the room. yes it is rather stupid for someone dealing drugs to put themselves anywhere in the vicinity of the law, but you have to be somewhat slow to be a criminal or a drug dealer in the first place. there are several cases every year of criminals openly exposing themselves on social media and being arrested as a result. they aren't the smartest bunch.

the fact that he testified and appeared in court doesn't automatically absolve him from possibly being a drug dealer on the low. maybe he wanted fame and notoriety, or much more likely... maybe he felt like doing what was right and speaking the truth. it would also look highly suspicious if he were subpoenaed and refused to testify.

now if his family is insisting this is all BS, and he had no enemies, and he was a straight shooter who would never ever put himself anywhere near that kind of situation... then by all means i think it would serve the public to open an investigation. and if the dallas PD refused i would be suspicious of it.
I disagree that drug dealers are inherently idiots.

While I do agree that just because he might have dealt weed it means he wouldn't testify against a cop, it's still strange to me. It's still shady. I don't automatically trust cops because they've already killed too many people already. There has been too much corruption in the past as well.

As for this being risky for the cops, I can see that, but at the same time the cops have killed with impunity in broad daylight in the past.

At least you're open to an outside investigation. It's almost certainly not happening though.
 

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I disagree that drug dealers are inherently idiots.

While I do agree that just because he might have dealt weed it means he wouldn't testify against a cop, it's still strange to me. It's still shady. I don't automatically trust cops because they've already killed too many people already. There has been too much corruption in the past as well.

As for this being risky for the cops, I can see that, but at the same time the cops have killed with impunity in broad daylight in the past.

At least you're open to an outside investigation. It's almost certainly not happening though.
you are welcoming an insane amount of stress and negativity into your life and open yourself up to a multitude of bad ends that can happen at anytime.

i don't know many smart, rational people who would choose to live life on those terms.
 

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you are welcoming an insane amount of stress and negativity into your life and open yourself up to a multitude of bad ends that can happen at anytime.

i don't know many smart, rational people who would choose to live life on those terms.
Fair enough and that's your opinion. I'm not going to get into it because it's off topic.
 

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Even if you accept her defense in full this woman made a mistake of such magnitude that she killed a man. Some mistakes cant be forgiven as a mistake and require punishment. Some require large punishment. She got a medium punishment. Her mistake should have required large punishment
 
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