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dear god those were certainly words that came right out of your ass
CM Punk Return is a complete and utter Flop!
Seriously, it's been 2 months since he debuted and what has he done during this time?
All he did was go out and read dull and borring promos about how awesome AEW is and what awesome fans they have; he squashed no-name low cards jobbers on a second-rate show that no one watches or just sat blankly and commented the show. Seriously? Did they bring Punk back just to be a commentator or what? Why didn't he take part in any serious feud for 2 full months? they just don't know what to do with him at all!
Imagine what it would be like if Punk returned to the WWE and all he did was read empty promos about how he liked the new WWE and how he loves the fans, after which he would had a matches with the likes of Ricochet, Cedric Alexander, Dolph Ziggler and Angel Garza and then he would be a commentator on RAW? AEW fans would rip it apart! Punk's return is the biggest disappointment in wrestling in the last 6 years by a mille!
Seriously, what's next? He will start having matches on Dark and Elavation because why the fuck not right?
All he did was go out and read dull and borring promos about how awesome AEW is and what awesome fans they have; he squashed no-name low cards jobbers on a second-rate show that no one watches or just sat blankly and commented the show. Seriously? Did they bring Punk back just to be a commentator or what? Why didn't he take part in any serious feud for 2 full months? they just don't know what to do with him at all!
Imagine what it would be like if Punk returned to the WWE and all he did was read empty promos about how he liked the new WWE and how he loves the fans, after which he would had a matches with the likes of Ricochet, Cedric Alexander, Dolph Ziggler and Angel Garza and then he would be a commentator on RAW? AEW fans would rip it apart! Punk's return is the biggest disappointment in wrestling in the last 6 years by a mille!
Seriously, what's next? He will start having matches on Dark and Elavation because why the fuck not right?
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Not at all. It's not as amazing as it maybe could've been, but certainly not a flop. Great promos and matches consistently, even with a pretty basic character at this point and no story. He's done well so far.
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I knew its only a matter of time till the fickle fan start lashing cm punk. Fans are clueless
I actually agree with you OP. I love Punk, was keen to see what he could do right away but AEW has given me zero reason to care.
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Well it was expected. Punks biggest asset was being able to call out backstage bs politics and in AEW he can’t do that as it would essentially burry the entire show .
And he can’t just go out in AEW and talk direct crap about wwe so what does he have left besides that? Ring skills? Others can do it just as well or better. Outside of wrestling accomplishments? If you can call being the worst ufc fighter of all time an accomplishment… and he isn’t a freak of nature like Brock or even someone like Batista or Goldberg where he looks like a big deal just by standing in the middle of the ring.
He also can’t talk down on the younger guys becuase when he was younger he was ripping the older guys up for taking space and being paid more, I remember him making a huge deal that Taker got paid more for their WM match when punk did most of the ring work- and now it’s punk that’s being carried by the younger guys while getting paid a lot more than them..
So even as far as mic work goes his options are limited due to what he used to say in the past.
I am fully expecting him to keep disappointing but I am also glad becuase people kept saying how huge of a star he is and how in AEW he will take stuff to the next level
And he can’t just go out in AEW and talk direct crap about wwe so what does he have left besides that? Ring skills? Others can do it just as well or better. Outside of wrestling accomplishments? If you can call being the worst ufc fighter of all time an accomplishment… and he isn’t a freak of nature like Brock or even someone like Batista or Goldberg where he looks like a big deal just by standing in the middle of the ring.
He also can’t talk down on the younger guys becuase when he was younger he was ripping the older guys up for taking space and being paid more, I remember him making a huge deal that Taker got paid more for their WM match when punk did most of the ring work- and now it’s punk that’s being carried by the younger guys while getting paid a lot more than them..
So even as far as mic work goes his options are limited due to what he used to say in the past.
I am fully expecting him to keep disappointing but I am also glad becuase people kept saying how huge of a star he is and how in AEW he will take stuff to the next level
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i agree with OP i am a huge cm punk fan he was my favorite wrestler for awhile all the way back to his roh days but this just feels like phil brooks in wrestling gear who is just happy to be there not someone who is a game changing acquisition where is the character work,the epic promos but instead he is wrestling lower card talent
imagine if when edge returned after 9 years away he just started wrestling guys like ziggler and jinder mahal while just smiling and shaking fans hands
imagine if when edge returned after 9 years away he just started wrestling guys like ziggler and jinder mahal while just smiling and shaking fans hands
Jeez... Give it time.
If he was booked like Goldberg, Lesnar and The Undertaker have been during WM season or at big 4 shows. You just end up in a situation where the part timer becomes the star. As it they have a world class performer with name recognition. It will have more impact once they pull the trigger on a storyline or character development.
Meanwhile Darby, Sammy and Hangman are being pushed as or towards being legit headliners.
If he was booked like Goldberg, Lesnar and The Undertaker have been during WM season or at big 4 shows. You just end up in a situation where the part timer becomes the star. As it they have a world class performer with name recognition. It will have more impact once they pull the trigger on a storyline or character development.
Meanwhile Darby, Sammy and Hangman are being pushed as or towards being legit headliners.
Punk's biggest asset is his microphone ability and the vitriol he can spew. Pissed off Punk is what people want it doesn't necessarily have to be related to backstage stuff or authority injustices although I would agree that he was probably at his best in WWE doing that. He is also a much better heel than a face, I understand he needed to debut as a face but he should be close to turning heel now.
Look at the heat he gets here by just being an absolute cunt and antagonising people. That's the CM Punk you want and imagine it with an AEW audience. Imagine the hatred he would get if he said he fleeced Tony and only came back for the money and he'll take it easy because he doesn't give a fuck?
I'm not satisfied with it. And the fans who say "just wait" or "LONG TERM STORYTELLING", no. I'm not down with long term storytelling that's boring the shit out of me. That's an excuse that persists with the AEW fans (even itt) that are just satisfied with anything put out by them. Punk's character atm is shit and long term storytelling isn't redeemable if it isn't compelling.
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I was against his signing, but actually have dug his handling and booking so far. It's a slow burn, but the guy has been gone for seven years so it makes sense kayfabe that he'd want to ease in rather than being dropped into the title scene. I like the happy warrior Punk as well, he can't be bitter pissed off Punk because why would that guy have even came back?
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They have managed to get me to lose interest in him way faster than I thought possible. His ratings on each Rampage also go down every single week which tells me I'm not the only one losing interest in this return.
I hate to play this card, but in this case I think it's true. If WWE booked CM Punk's return this exact same way, all the people defending it right now would be trashing it. Some of that is fine, considering AEW has built up more trust at this point. But man, AEW fans give them so much more leeway than they do WWE
I hate to play this card, but in this case I think it's true. If WWE booked CM Punk's return this exact same way, all the people defending it right now would be trashing it. Some of that is fine, considering AEW has built up more trust at this point. But man, AEW fans give them so much more leeway than they do WWE
I remember when Kenny won the belt and was doing the belt collector thing the guys here kept saying "BE PATIENT GUYS! THIS WILL BE THE BIGGEST ANGLE IN WRESTLING!" and it never really became much of anything.
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i don't recall punk being in thee wwe after his roh stint
Yeah neither can I. He left pro wrestling in 2005 right?
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i believe so, then he trained hard for mma, believe he got injured in training took a hissy fit and cried on a podcast, then went back to mma training only to get humiliated by a wet paper bag and a kid the size dominc mysterio
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It has been bad. Same as Bryan's run. The buzz both brought? Already gone.
I don't care for Edge, and can't stand the WWE, but compare his return to Punk's. It's night and day. Edge came back and immediately went into a blood feud with a star. That's how you book big stars making a comeback.
Same with Shawn Michaels back in 2002. He came back to WWEs biggest angle at the time - the nWo flop - and then immediately went into a blood feud with a star.
Punk's return is a joke so far.
I don't care for Edge, and can't stand the WWE, but compare his return to Punk's. It's night and day. Edge came back and immediately went into a blood feud with a star. That's how you book big stars making a comeback.
Same with Shawn Michaels back in 2002. He came back to WWEs biggest angle at the time - the nWo flop - and then immediately went into a blood feud with a star.
Punk's return is a joke so far.
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Not a complete flop because Punks ability in the ring and on the mic are still there but he’s being used very poorly. If you were to tell a wrestling fan that CM Punk would return to wrestling but have no feuds and only wrestle at 10 pm on a Friday night, they wouldn’t believe you.
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