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For all the football fans ou there, whose wins and accomplishments make you happier and prouder: your country's national team or your club?

Benfica for me, easily. And the reason is quite simple: Benfica is a sports club while Portugal is a country with football and sports just being a small part of it in the bigger picture. Portugal's national team just happens to be a collection of players that happen to be Portuguese. 11 guys don't represent a whole country. Benfica is pretty much made to compete in football and other sports. Portugal has much more than football. Like every country it has its history, culture, language, etc. It's existed for nearly a thousand years before football was even a thought. Benfica is pretty much a sports club only. It was created for that purpose, and supporting a club makes you feel more privileged and "special!, like you're part of a smaller group of people. Same reason why some people take their fandoms a bit too seriously sometimes. Plus, when Portugal wins a game everyone around seems happy or lukewarm. Part of what makes sports fun are rivalries, and thus there's no extra kick to it when Portugal plays. If we win everyone seems cheerful, and if we lose everyone seems down or annoyed. With Benfica I at least can have funny arguments and exchanges with fans of the rival clubs.

I tend to watch every single Benfica match I can except for pre-season friendlies. Don't care for those. As for Portugal, I dont' watch friendlies or qualifiers. Qualifiers stopped being interesting after 2005-2006 when it became apparent Portugal became one of those countries that goes to every single tournament or rarely misses one. It's not like we're in pre-2000 anymore where Portugal missed more tournaments than the ones they'd play in. Qualifiers have basically become a mere formality for Portugal, but maybe one day we'll miss a big one again. If Italy, Holland and England have missed big tournaments in the past 15 years, I don't see why we couldn't miss one one day too. I think Brazil are the only NT on Earth that hasn't missed a single World Cup?

As cool as it was winning the Euro 2016, I kinda moved on next day. And I didn't bother watching a single Nations League game. I don't really care that Portugal won it, tbh. Now, I'd like to see Portugal winning a World Cup one day, I won't lie. That'd be a great feat for a small country like ours and would open headlines all over the world. I've read somewhere that Iceland's performance in the Euro 2016 contributed to the increase of foreign visitors to the country, and they didn't even win the competition. Winning a World Cup is something everyone will know all over the world, including people from countries that don't care much about football. Even Americans and Indians know France won the previous WC, for example. So it'd be nice having Portugal's name in the back of people's minds for a while. I don't really care if we win another Euro, though. If we do, sure I'll take it. But not that big of a deal if we never do it again.

From my experience, only more casual fans or people who don't generally like football care more about the NT. It is a bit annoying how every 2 years a lot of people I know who openly call football stupid and for the "low brows" suddenly pretending to be a huge fan of football and talking about how good and hot the players are as if they're lifelong fans. Those people often make fun of those who care about club football but then are the first ones to cry when Portugal gets knocked.out. Therefore, I don't want any association with that kind of people when the Euro or the WC rolls in. Doesn't help either how the media is a HUGE circus around our NT during those tournaments. They'll talk about them ALL DAY long, including the shampoo random person from Thailand or Senegal who supports Portugal because Figo, Rui Costa or Ronaldo are their idols, etc.

But maybe this depends on the country and how much people care about their clubs. If you're part of a very small nation that never played in the WC I guess your attitude towards your NT will be different than the one of a German person, for example.
 

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I can't focus on a match for more than 5 minutes if Liverpool aren't playing. I need to be invested in the characters.
 

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England winning the world cup would be the pinnacle for me. Or at least I think so. I've never felt anything like the moment Chelsea won the Champions League but I would imagine it would be a greater feeling and the whole nation in celebration would be something to behold, particularly with what the sport means to us
 

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Always preferred the club football. I don't even have to support a team in a competition to get hooked. There are just so many things to follow every single year compared to international football.
 

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National football peaks higher in terms of accomplishment and the emotional highs. But Club football is more consistent given that it is yearly and has more opportunity for my team to do well.

Still, if you asked me: "Lose all of Milan's accomplishments or all of Italy's accomplishments in football"... well, that answer is very easy. I'd much rather keep the World Cup wins by Italy than any championship Milan ever won, even if that means we lose the greatest club run of all time in the late 80s and early 90s.

And on the woman's side this is even more pronounced. Club football is meaningless.
 

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National football peaks higher in terms of accomplishment and the emotional highs. But Club football is more consistent given that it is yearly and has more opportunity for my team to do well.

Still, if you asked me: "Lose all of Milan's accomplishments or all of Italy's accomplishments in football"... well, that answer is very easy. I'd much rather keep the World Cup wins by Italy than any championship Milan ever won, even if that means we lose the greatest club run of all time in the late 80s and early 90s.

And on the woman's side this is even more pronounced. Club football is meaningless.
...you'd also be willing to lose the 7 European Cups? Or nah? Because if Milan lost all of their national championships they'd lose most of their European Cups as well,since, until the early-mid 90s, only national champions qualified for the EC/CL.

AH I don't care about women's football at all, club or NT.
 

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...you'd also be willing to lose the 7 European Cups? Or nah? Because if Milan lost all of their national championships they'd lose most of their European Cups as well,since, until the early-mid 90s, only national champions qualified for the EC/CL.

AH I don't care about women's football at all, club or NT.
I'd rather have Italy's 4 titles than any of Milan's titles period. 2006 is still one of my most impactful sports memories with only the Cubs winning the World Series competing with it.

As for women's football... I prefer the National football to any other football right now. There is less flopping and diving and just a generally less cynical experience. This current world cup was been leagues more exciting and fun than last year's men's cup for me. Same with 2015 compared to 2014.
 

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I hope Scotland do well and I follow them in qualifiers but that’s as far as we ever get so club football all the way!

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