Cattle Mutilation vs Labell lock

AmWolves10 · Feb 23, 2011

Which move do you prefer as Bryan's finisher? IMO the Labell lock looks kinda more painful, its more of a "WWE"ish looking finisher, and is a tribute to one of Bryan's favorites.

But the Cattle Mutilation is uniquely patented and trademarked by Danielson. Its his sweet chin music, stone cold stunner, or pedigree...

p862011 · Feb 23, 2011

it is quite simple CM cant be done to big guys the Labell lock can

CM does'nt look painful and is easy to counter

Natsuke · Feb 23, 2011

p862011 said:
it is quite simple CM cant be done to big guys the Labell lock can

CM does'nt look painful and is easy to counter

I don't think you realize how much that move f'ing hurts....

Samee · Feb 23, 2011

Easily LaBell Lock for me. It's more versatile and creates excitement. Cattle Mutilation is just awkward to me.

monkeytilt · Feb 23, 2011

The only downside to the LL is that it seems similar to ADR's armbar finisher. Bryan should have a few different submission holds that he uses, not just 1 finisher.

Unsexed · Feb 23, 2011

Cattle Mutilation looks stupid and unpainful. The Lebel Lock is taking the Crippler Crossface, and making it hurt more. LL wins hands down.

hexagram520 · Feb 23, 2011

Danielson has stated that he made the choice to not use the CM as his finisher because you can't see his face or the opponents face very well, which is a big thing for WWE television.

Masta-Bassist · Feb 23, 2011

I'm more a fan of the Labelle Lock, or as it's properly known a Omoplata with a face lock or choke. I was slightly annoyed when I first seen him use it, as I thought I invented that version. If you got long enough arms on an Omoplata you can grab around their other arm and pull in, but if you are facing people much bigger than you and can't reach, gotta grab the neck.

adri17 · Feb 23, 2011

At some of you saying the Cattle Mutilation doesn't hurt...

Anyway, as a long tme Danielson fan, it hurts me from the inside to say that I actually prefer the LeBell lock (specially when he actually manages to lock the arm right) mainly because it's more versatile and easy to apply than Cattle Mutilation.

But I would still mark like a little bitch if he actually won matches here and there using CM.

SAL · Feb 23, 2011

monkeytilt said:
The only downside to the LL is that it seems similar to ADR's armbar finisher. Bryan should have a few different submission holds that he uses, not just 1 finisher.

This. I prefer Cattle Mutilation but I don't mind the Lebell Lock. It would be nice to see Bryan get to do what he did in ROH, build up a number of moves that can end a match. Then again, that's not really the WWE style either.

And this is what happens when Bryan applies one of the most over moves in the indies in WWE:

Masta-Bassist · Feb 23, 2011

Though thinking back, I think the Heel Hook he used on NXT was my fave (Another one of my fave submissions in Jujitsu). Don't seem many leg focused submissions, Boston Crabs, and all them are on the back. Actually... Thinking about it, STF's and the Regal Stretch are far worse on your legs then neck, 200lb guy crushing your leg? It hurts!

p862011 · Feb 23, 2011

Natsuke said:
I don't think you realize how much that move f'ing hurts....

i am sure it does but i said it does'nt Look Painful

looks is everything in pro wrestling

Mhirn3 · Feb 23, 2011

SM28 said:
This. I prefer Cattle Mutilation but I don't mind the Lebell Lock. It would be nice to see Bryan get to do what he did in ROH, build up a number of moves that can end a match. Then again, that's not really the WWE style either.

And this is what happens when Bryan applies one of the most over moves in the indies in WWE:

I think my fav part of that video is the commentary.

The BoogeyMan · Feb 23, 2011

I kinda' like the LaBell Lock because it reclaims The Crossface away from Benoit. A perfectly good move shouldn't be left on the shelf because of how it's last owner lived out his life, it shouldn't be given that stigma.

Natsuke said:
I don't think you realize how much that move f'ing hurts....

True, but to an extent it doesn't matter how much it actually hurts, moreso how much it LOOKS like it hurts. To the casual viewer, The LaBell looks really painful even when it can be done with barely any face contact.

EraOfAwesome · Feb 24, 2011

monkeytilt said:
The only downside to the LL is that it seems similar to ADR's armbar finisher. Bryan should have a few different submission holds that he uses, not just 1 finisher.

Wtf? The LL looks absolutely nothing like Del Rio's armbar.
Literally nothing like it.

p862011 · Feb 24, 2011

^exactly LL we see the opponents face gets cranked back on while the CM we see no ones face and we cant feel the pain in their eyes

Cynic · Feb 24, 2011

Samee said:
Easily LaBell Lock for me. It's more versatile and creates excitement. Cattle Mutilation is just awkward to me.

This all the way. Cattle Mutilation could never be a serious finisher on a major wrestling show. It looks like it hurts, but Bryan's nuts flapping in the air sort of ruins it.

Carcass · Feb 24, 2011

Lebell Lock. I used to prefer the CM but the Lebell one's really grown on me.

Chicago Warrior · Feb 24, 2011

The Lebell lock for sure. The many counters Bryan does into the LeBell lock are exciting to watch. The Lebell lock looks and is extremely painful because of how it puts pressure on the arm, shoulder, neck and face and possibly more.

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