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I put this in Entertainment because it isn't a rant on Saw. First let me just say i'm a big horror movie fan,and i'll watch just about anything Horror related,but i don't get the Saw hype. I've seen up to 4 i believe,and i wouldn't put it in my top 10 favorite horror movies. Granted the story is interesting enough to get me to watch the other/future movies,but not enough for me to go crazy over it.
 

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Saw, the first one, is every thing horror is about. Is it the greatest horror movie ever? Fuck. No. But it's got all the necessary horror elements needed. The end is great, a true horror ending.

It degenerated into torture porn soon after that first great movie though.
 

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I loved the first one. Absolutely loved it. Disliked the second one and hated the third. After watching two duds, I was smart enough not to continue my mistakes with anything after 3.
 

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Well the first one was epic in every way but when it's a series, people want to see the series finished so they will watch the movies regardless. I got up to five but I don't care much for the series now. I guess maybe the major love is coming because the horror generation right now has run dry, and at least Saw is a bit creative.
 

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I hate movies like that. Its just blood and gore. They are just nasty. I thought the first one was really interesting with a good ending but the rest were not too good. I like those horror movies where the monster chases the good guys and you are on the edge of your seat thinking they will get caught by it. For the past few years I have hated the path that horror movies have taken.
 

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The first one owns, the rest not so much. They pretty much destroyed something that could have been refreshing and original but of course that wasn't the case but hey now were getting the last one in 3D!!!!!!!/sarcasm
 

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I have watched every single one because I love gore. Any movie having to do with killing people in sadistic ways I'm going to watch. I don't know why, but I just find it very amusing.
 

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I loved the first one. Absolutely loved it. Disliked the second one and hated the third. After watching two duds, I was smart enough not to continue my mistakes with anything after 3.
I actually thought that 2 was a pretty nice follow up to the first one tbh,but if they HAD to go beyond 2 movies it should have stopped at 3 imo,but they milked that cash cow for all it was worth...poor bastards.
 

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Loved the original, not bothering with the sequels.
 

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Like everyone else, I liked the first one; it atleast attempted a story. Second one was ok but the franchise was only getting worse.
 

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I dont get the hype either, the first was different at the time. It propelled the torture porn genre to the mainstream, I guess its one of the top horror films series around but not the best.
 

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I have to preface this with my short story of being a horror fan. Thankfully I am old enough to still have seen the golden age of video stores before the Blockbusters of the world started to wipe out all of the mom & pop stores. With the mom & pop stores, they carried an unbelievable amount of horror vhs's (which many I still can't find on DVD) and had a great cult/exploitation collection as well. With that, I was able to educate myself when I was 11-13 on all things horror.

After that, with the rising popularity of the internet and the tape trading community, I was able to seek out the harder to find titles. The older I got, the more gore I wanted to see. First it was The Last House on the Left, next Cannibal Holocaust, next the Guinea Pig films, next Men Behind the Sun and Salo. I became pretty jaded whenever Hollywood promised to bring out something really gory and fail.

Saw is no exception. The original was ok but its obvious spin off of better films like Seven or The Cube and Mad Max made me shake my head when people call it an original film. It also helped the whole gore movement that is going on now but something about it really bothers me. There is no dirty feeling about these films that I would get while watching Cannibal Holocaust. These films feel too processed and manufactured and doesn't have that raw guttural atmosphere of the underground films of the 70s and 80s.
 

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To be fair, if it ended as a trilogy it would have been decent. But now its become random shit, and a plot that's supposed to be "clever". My ass. I think the one this year is the last, which is something to rejoice about.
 

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As a horror movie lover (but not really a fan of Saw) I think I get it. It's an extremely gory series by most standards, and the funds on a Hollywood style production allow professionalism, wide distribution, and polish on the films. This would explain why most of these people are not really fans of lesser known (and arguably better) gore fests.

I don't think the Saw series is terrible, but it certainly isn't all it's cracked up to be from what I've seen. But with millions of dollars behind it of course it's going to pick up more steam. People love extreme gore, whether they want to admit that's the case or not. That's why Hostel got a second part even though the first one was lame, people just want to see mutilation. And if it's accepted in the mainstream, they're probably going to pick up a DVD of that rather than an obscure VHS of 'The Burning Moon' or something.
 

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A choice quote from one Melissa Lafsky of The Awl:

But the REAL question is: Why the hell are these chunks of cinematic shite so popular? The answer is simple: American guilt. We're all thrashing around in a culture built on Me-ism—I want mine, I'll do whatever it takes to get it, and fuck everybody else. And deep down in places we don't talk about at parties, we KNOW we're steeped in a moral wasteland, and that we're little better than most criminals for spending our time worrying about how many panda-skin Jimmy Choos we can buy while a single mother of four works three jobs and still can't afford to have a fucking cavity filled.

The beauty of these movies is that they're blank slates to assuage our guilt—the scenarios are so ambiguous (random people plucked from ordinary assholery) and the characters so bland, they allow every one of us to imagine we're the guilty douche in the torture chamber/poisoned house/corpse-sprinkled public bathroom. And they let us feel better, by presenting someone worse than us (drug dealers, wife beaters), and creating some sort of internal justice system. "Sure, I wrote a few misogynistic blog comments and scowled at a homeless man, but THAT guy killed a kid with his car! He's worse than me! He deserves to have his extremities slowly twisted off by a giant Medieval crucifix!"
While there's much more to why these films are popular I do believe thee above is true, indeed.
 

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I LOVED the first SAW. I really believe theres only 2 or maybe 3 at the most great horror movies of this generation and SAW is one of them (The Ring is the other, although its not "slasher horror"). I HATED the second one, i mean i thought it was straight up trash. I couldnt stand that huge hispanic guy. The third one, although better than II, still was not good. I never watched any more as i gave up on the series.
 
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