So I was out of watching the WWE for about 6 or 7 years and just started getting back into it. I've researched all the guys I don't know and I am pretty well caught up. The only thing that still puzzles me is why is MVP so popular? I'm not putting the guy down but I just don't get it. He doesn't impress me at all. Mostly he just irritates me. I'm not trolling I just really wanna know if I'm missing something? Are there matches of his I should track down? Maybe some good storyline or feuds I missed?
He played a great heel. Ever since his face turn, he's been really stale and boring. I guess people, myself included, are just holding out for him to turn heel again.
So I was out of watching the WWE for about 6 or 7 years and just started getting back into it. I've researched all the guys I don't know and I am pretty well caught up. The only thing that still puzzles me is why is MVP so popular? I'm not putting the guy down but I just don't get it. He doesn't impress me at all. Mostly he just irritates me. I'm not trolling I just really wanna know if I'm missing something? Are there matches of his I should track down? Maybe some good storyline or feuds I missed?
I couldn't agree more! I've been baffled by all the MVP-love and the whole 'MVP-Street-fighter' thingee. I can't think of any memorable in-ring moves from him and while that 'drive-by-kick' last Friday pleased some people on IWC, I didn't really enjoy it. :no:
In August 2006 MVP made his debut on SD by basically just appearing in the front rows in the crowd, sitting in VIP Lounge’s, or walking around backstage eying the competition being escorted by beautiful women or bodyguards while talking to his secret agent. His gimmick was an overpaid, arrogant, self-obsessed athlete who cared about nothing but himself, his money and his women. He had his own personal entrance with coming out of huge NFL-like inflatable tunnel, smoke, pyro etc. with all the glitz and glamour.
He was basically like the Terrell Owens of wrestling and WWE pretty much told the fans that he was going to be a big deal in the future with everything they was applying for him for his unique entrance and talk show etc. At a press conference on WWE.com MVP signed a large contract for Smackdown! (obviously kabyface wise) dubbing him as the “Highest Paid Superstar” in WWE history. It wasn’t just your typical wrestler where his gimmick is based on wealth (JBL, Ted Jr., Alberto Del Rio), MVP had a variety package to his original character which made the gimmick very unique. During his epic Heel run from 06-late 08, he gained a lot of accomplishments
-Longest reigning United States Champion in WWE History (3rd for the entire history with the belt so MVP name is next to legends like Lex Luger and Ric Flair.)
-Had his own segment almost every other Smackdown episode (so obviously getting a lot of mic time)
-A former 1x WWE Tag Team Champion with Matt Hardy which they had a very entertaining dysfunctional tag team storyline together.
-Had main evented a couple of SD shows and proven worthy each time.
-Defeated multiple former World Heavyweight Champions such as Jeff Hardy Chris Benoit, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, The Big Show, CM Punk, Ric Flair, Kane and Batista among others (the only upper-midcarder that actually pinned Batista during his monster face run)
He was always feuding with a former World Champion (except Matt Hardy) and was never directionless (except for three weeks near the draft).
You would think with this resume he would be a glorified main eventer by now huh? And that was all under his Heel run. But truth be told MVP had one of the best 2 ½ year runs that a lot of mid-carders would die for. Also MVP was NEVER shove down the fans throat, he was getting a nice-slow and protected push just like how The Miz right now is getting. As much I can’t stand The Miz I can’t deny that he is getting the best and natural push to get him prepared for the main event instead of trying to shove him down everyone’s throat’s (looking at you Sheamus). MVP could of easily carried Smackdown as it’s top Heel for a good 3 years, he acts like a star and look like a star.
During his Heel run in 2007 in his tag team run with Hardy, MVP slowly started to get mix reactions from the crowd (more of the adults) every other week. There would be chanting “MVP” while the kids and women would follow up by saying “SUCKS!” afterwards. He was already over but just now more on the “Face” side if that make sense.
MVP is a pretty good wrestler (a better wrestler if he is in the ring with the right people)
Great on the mic
Has shit loads of charisma (which is why he is over in the first place)
He is just good/great all around.
Now in late August 2008 his push stopped when he develop a losing streak that lasted till January 16, 2009 which was God awful and pretty much killed him and never been the same since. During that stupid storyline, the losing streak meant that, in storyline, MVP did not receive "his contract incentive bonus", and also was no longer allowed his usual entrance with the NFL-like inflatable tunnel and pretty much all of his money, losing his agent etc. SO as much I couldn’t stand that, it did made sense cause he was the “highest paid athlete” but he went MC Hammer broke with his losing streak. So with all of that he is now basically a “normal wrestler” and it converted him to be as a Face. But as you know in today’s WWE, majority of the faces are generic with smiling and waving at the fans and this unfortunately happen to MVP.
MVP natural attitude and personality is stripped from him and that’s why I can probably see why he irritates you and half of the people on this forum cause he sounds and acts kind of force. It’s just the fact that he is in a shell of his former self and he himself knows that he is not “himself” anymore cause of the stupid WWE creative. However he has true charisma which I can't say for half of the WWE roster and Montel got that aura which is why he is still so very over today despite not being his true Heel persona that made him over in the first place. So I think you should just look up his work on youtube, or daily motion etc. and check him out of the years of 2006-08. You would find him atleast more acceptable and natural.
It's because you are a member of the IWC therefore incapable of being impressed by a non heel. The only exceptions to this rule are IWC darlings such as Jericho/Bryan (who are both great), the pisstakers i.e people jumping on the Otunga bandwagon and Mark Henry who brings the ratings regardless of heel/face.
Even if you are a great face, the IWC will generally be obstinant about you until you do a heel turn. Once you turn, the IWC will suck your dick no end i.e Michael Cole (Whom I've always marked for).
Maybe people aren't impressed with him as a face because he is fucking awful as a face.
He's done jackshit as a face, and deservedly so. He's awfully bland. Make him a heel again, and he'll be much better. Not too high on the guy, but he's much better as a heel. His character isn't face applicable.
MVP is my favorite wrestler... Check out his matches with Swagger on Superstars. And also his matches with Carlito and Chavo. If you're looking for great feuds, look at his feud with Matt Hardy. MVP has one of the most polished movesets in the entire company. I can literally name about 30 different MVP moves. How many guys can you say that about?
MVP is my favorite wrestler... Check out his matches with Swagger on Superstars. And also his matches with Carlito and Chavo. If you're looking for great feuds, look at his feud with Matt Hardy. MVP has one of the most polished movesets in the entire company. I can literally name about 30 different MVP moves. How many guys can you say that about?
It's because you are a member of the IWC therefore incapable of being impressed by a non heel. The only exceptions to this rule are IWC darlings such as Jericho/Bryan (who are both great), the pisstakers i.e people jumping on the Otunga bandwagon and Mark Henry who brings the ratings regardless of heel/face.
Even if you are a great face, the IWC will generally be obstinant about you until you do a heel turn. Once you turn, the IWC will suck your dick no end i.e Michael Cole (Whom I've always marked for).
So you largely ignore his question and use the opportunity instead to go off on an unrelated tangent about the failings of the IWC, much of which is inaccurate anyway.
Maybe people aren't impressed with him as a face because he is fucking awful as a face.
He's done jackshit as a face, and deservedly so. He's awfully bland. Make him a heel again, and he'll be much better. Not too high on the guy, but he's much better as a heel. His character isn't face applicable.
This. He gets sympathy cheers, the fans know who he is and he always acts like a stand-up good guy. There's no real reason to cheer him though, he's boring as hell. Bit like Carlito when he was a face. It just doesn't work, they are natural heels.
he was better a heel but when he was matt hardys tag team partner he was in my mnid his best and when he went on that 20 week or somthing like that of a loosing streak he lost everything and only got the US Title out of it. Saying that the US Title is only how far i can see MVP going
1. Playmaker
2. Play of the Day
3. Drive By Kick
4. Yakuza Kick
5. Ballin Elbow
6. Overhead Throw
7. Emerald Fusion
8. Perfect Plex
9. ARMBAR!
10. Triple German Suplexes
11. Standard German Suplex (sometimes with pin)
12. Running Knee to the seated opponent
13. Diving Plancha to the outside
14. T-Bone Suplex
15. Stretch Plum
16. Bulldog
17. Superplex
18. Knee Face Buster
19. Diving Lariat
20. Standard Big Boot
21. Jumping Knee to grounded opponent
22. Front Face Lock
23. Jumping knee arm breaker
24. Snapmare into back kick
25. Neckbraker
26. Knee rest Texas Cloverleaf
27. Gorilla Press Slam
28. Front Gorilla Press Slam
29. Gutwrench Suplex
30. Elbows to neck of seated opponent
1. Playmaker
2. Play of the Day
3. Drive By Kick
4. Yakuza Kick
5. Ballin Elbow
6. Overhead Throw
7. Emerald Fusion
8. Perfect Plex
9. ARMBAR!
10. Triple German Suplexes
11. Standard German Suplex (sometimes with pin)
12. Running Knee to the seated opponent
13. Diving Plancha to the outside
14. T-Bone Suplex
15. Stretch Plum
16. Bulldog
17. Superplex
18. Knee Face Buster
19. Diving Lariat
20. Standard Big Boot
21. Jumping Knee to grounded opponent
22. Front Face Lock
23. Jumping knee arm breaker
24. Snapmare into back kick
25. Neckbraker
26. Knee rest Texas Cloverleaf
27. Gorilla Press Slam
28. Front Gorilla Press Slam
29. Gutwrench Suplex
30. Elbows to neck of seated opponent
This. He gets sympathy cheers, the fans know who he is and he always acts like a stand-up good guy. There's no real reason to cheer him though, he's boring as hell. Bit like Carlito when he was a face. It just doesn't work, they are natural heels.
Regarding MVP as a babyface, the widespread theory seems to be that he sucks at playing the part. That simply isn't the case. In fact, I'd call it a huge misconception.
MVP is more than capable of being a good babyface. He's versatile, and he's shown that through both his in-ring work & his promotional interviews. (That's promos, kiddies.)
For every great heel promo MVP had, I can name a fiery babyface promo to match it, if not top it. He's just damn GOOD on the mic. Whether it be as a face or a heel, MVP is capable of drawing a crowd in, garnering a reaction, and selling whatever program he's working to the audience.
Yes, he had those great "I'm better than you" promos against Matt Hardy as a heel. But he's also put out quality work as a babyface. I don't know how anyone could possibly look past his promos with The Miz over the United States Title from a year or so ago.
Say what you will, but that was easily some of the best babyface mic work to come out of the company (outside of Cena's WrestleMania 26 promo with Vince) in years.
MVP is a great performer. That's the bottom line. He can play either role very well. The problem lies in the fact that he isn't being utilized like he should. Here's a guy who can practically do it all, and he's being given the bare minimum to work with.
Instead of a significant rivalry, a high-profile program, or even any hint of an episodic angle, he's given random filler matches with little to no purpose or advancing storyline.
It's a fucking shame.
Yes, MVP could be busting out badass promos as a heel. Of course, he'd have to be given the go ahead & the TV time to do that.
On that same note, MVP could be busting out badass promos as a face. Of course, he'd have to be given the go ahead & the TV to do that also.
He's a natural born heel which makes it very hard for me to care about him as a face, I'm not even a fan of "Gangsta" type of gimmicks but I enjoyed his work in 2006/2007 and was one of my favorites at the time.
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