[venkyrenga]

It's obvious that wwe is pushing roman as the face and he did not earn the spot like bryan or punk did... wwe has invested a lot in him despite him not being a great talent... the main factor for his push is the looks and that is the reason wwe held punk and bryan back... it seems that they are pushing him hoping that he will improve over time... but can he really sustain as the face of the company? IMO he is the least talented among the guys who carried this company since the attitude era...
I have rated the wrestlers who has been the face of wwe since the attitude era and also roman reigns... let me know wat u guys think of the ratings...

Triple H 22.75 (even though not a face, he is the top guy since the rock left till cena took over)

Wrestling skills - 4
Ring Psychology - 4.5
Charisma - 4.75
Mic skills - 4.5
Looks - 5

John Cena 20.25 (2006- 12)

Wrestling skills - 3.25
Ring Psychology - 4.25
Charisma - 4.5
Mic skills - 4.25
Looks - 4

CM Punk 21 (2012 - 13)

Wrestling skills - 4.5
Ring Psychology - 4.5
Charisma - 4.25
Mic skills - 4.75
Looks - 3

Daniel Bryan 18 (2013-14)

Wrestling skills - 5
Ring Psychology - 4.5
Charisma - 3.5
Mic skills - 3
Looks - 2

Roman Reigns 17

Wrestling skills - 3.25
Ring Psychology - 3.75
Charisma - 3.5
Mic skills - 2
Looks - 4.5

 

[Dobbizzle]

Don't really agree with any of the ratings tbh. But to the topic to "sustain" something you actually have to be able to achieve it in the first place, I don't think he's really managed to "be" the face of the company yet, that's still Cena.

 

[CycLoNe_AttAcK_]

No offence OP but that's an atrocious methodology for judging talent.

Firstly, you can't quantify any of these attributes and try to make an objective point out of it.

Secondly, not all of these attributes carry the same weightage in the wrestling business. You can be the best in the world at pure "wrestling" talent but without a considerable level of charisma, mic skills you'll more often than not find yourself oscillating between the mid card and low card, same can't be said for the guys who possess mic skill an charisma but are average wrestlers.

Thirdly, you can be decent at most of the parameters but still won't not necessarily be a worthy main event talent. Take for example Ambrose- someone who is the proverbial jack of all trades - in the sense that he excels at absolutely nothing. He isn't great on the mic, hardly ever speaks anything you'd remember as a great piece one week later.. has mostly been below par in non gimmick matches.. doesn't have any considerable charisma either.. but is decent enough at all of them to be a credible long term mid-carder, a role in which he is doing pretty good and would probably keep going so for the next 5-10 years or so.

 

[Drago]

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[CEEJ]

Well this was a weird idea.

He's not the face of the company, so we have no way of knowing how he'll go in that role, Cena is very much still the guy

 

[Chief of the Lynch Mob]

Roman almost definitely will be the face of the company to be honest, and it really is only a matter of time.

Whether he can sustain it or not is a different matter entirely, it depends on how they portray him, if they really do try and make him the next Cena then he'll be screwed when it comes to fan support, but if he continues improving like he has been and isn't overexposed to hell then maybe, just maybe, he can do it.

 

[Daemon_Rising]

This thread reminds me of something....

 

[JimCornette]

He's not the face of the company though.

 

[Reptilian]

Im going to fix it for you:

Triple H - 23.5

Wrestling skills - 4.5
Ring Psychology - 4.5
Charisma - 4.5
Mic skills - 5
Looks - 5

John Cena - 24

Wrestling skills - 4.5
Ring Psychology - 4.5
Charisma - 5
Mic skills - 5
Looks - 5

CM Punk - 8.5

Wrestling skills - 2
Ring Psychology - 1.5
Charisma - 2
Mic skills - 2
Looks - 1

Daniel Bryan - 16.5

Wrestling skills - 4
Ring Psychology - 3.5
Charisma - 4
Mic skills - 4
Looks - 1

Roman Reigns - 23.5

Wrestling skills - 5
Ring Psychology - 4.5
Charisma - 5
Mic skills - 4
Looks - 5

 

[The Renegade]

I'm not sure. He's seems to be doing pretty well with certain demos, but this is the honestly the most lukewarm top face push I can remember in quite some time. Not bad per se, just meh.

A lot of that has to do with booking, but I don't know man. Its just been weird to say the least.

 

[Stinger Fan]

He isn't the face right now let alone the future .

 

[Lone Star]

In terms of "faces of the WWE". On the current roster.

1 A) Brock Lesnar. Part timer, yes. But by far the biggest mainstream star as of now.

1 B) John Cena. Probably the only reason WWE's ratings aren't in the 1's. When he leaves, it'll be disastrous the way WWE goes about making new stars. His injury will tell a lot, not only about Reigns but the entire roster. He said it best, whose going to step up? I only see two guys in Ambrose and Owens doing so right now. Rollins too.

2. The Undertaker. Part timer, yes. Legend that can still sell some tickets, you bet.

3. Triple H. Don't like him but he's the focal point of RAW all the time. Part timer, I don't care. Still in fans eyes now, former fans and people that don't even watch, H, Lesnar and Undertaker are the biggest names in WWE.

4. Randy Orton. Still a top name, and loved by casuals. Creative was at a loss with him before injury. Which is pretty pathetic.

5. Dean Ambrose. He's Intercontinental champion, Vince's go to guy when injuries go down, or for house show/Smackdown, even most RAW main events. Sells merch on the level of John Cena (see WWE Shop for proof). He's now being solidified as Vince's upper midcard guy, and still more popular than Reigns despite every chance to hold him back. Give him a microphone more often, and he'll be white hot like in 2014, and Elimination Chamber this year. He's obviously held back for this guy.....

6. Roman Reigns. The biggest push in wrestling history hasn't exactly got him far, and I want to like the guy and did until I was force fed rehased bullshit the past two months. He gets modest reactions, when someone else with his booking would be blowing the roof off of arena's, and not booed at major events. Merch sales are solid, but I'm sure house shows are filled with Reigns merch, and not much else. They did the same thing with Cena when his popularity started to dwindle.

So yeah, he's not even close to the face of WWE.

 

[260825]

The question you have to ask is, does it get any better?

In the short time Reigns has come & been pushed, does it really get any better or have we seen the absolute best?, WWE is Cena's life, but Reigns has a daughter & I don't think he can carry a product as the lone guy, nor as long as Cena has.

 

[Marrakesh]

No. Even if they booked him perfectly he still would have only been a short term 'face of the company'.

He is far too limited a performer to carry an entire company on his back. I still believe he is a heel in the long term when WWE finally cave in.

Take a look at the Sheamus-Reigns feud pre McMahon involvement. It was an absolute train wreck, and no, it was not the fault of Sheamus alone.

Both men bombed hard to the point that their match at TLC was being ignored and mocked by the crowd. 'Tater Tot Promo' remains the worst of 2015 by any 'main event talents'

Reigns can't talk. He isn't interesting to listen to. He bores a huge section of the audience. It's as simple as that. Cena was chastised for being corny but one thing he always had was an ability to captivate an audience in a promo. Reigns will never be able to do this. He just does not have that ability.

At some point WWE will be left with a decision to make. Demote Reigns and elevate others so that there is a group of main event guys that the company promote heavily (face and heel) or continue into 2016/17 on the same declining path they are on right now.

I don't think WWE have fully grasped how anti-climatic Reigns vs HHH is going to be at Wrestlemania. Just because it's the best option available to them given their current direction does not mean it is necessarily a compelling one.

Does HHH draw as the A side of a main event match at Wrestlemania in 2016? I'd find that very unlikely.

After Reigns is done with HHH, what then? It's back to fighting with all the heel midcarders again, and as the Sheamus feud proved, virtually no one will care.

 

[venkyrenga]

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[Electrifying 3:16]

Daniel Bryan wrestling skill 5??????? Are you fucking kidding me??????????

 

[Arcaninex]

Giving John Cena such a high rating pisses me off.

 

[venkyrenga]

In terms of "faces of the WWE". On the current roster.

1 A) Brock Lesnar. Part timer, yes. But by far the biggest mainstream star as of now.

1 B) John Cena. Probably the only reason WWE's ratings aren't in the 1's. When he leaves, it'll be disastrous the way WWE goes about making new stars. His injury will tell a lot, not only about Reigns but the entire roster. He said it best, whose going to step up? I only see two guys in Ambrose and Owens doing so right now. Rollins too.

2. The Undertaker. Part timer, yes. Legend that can still sell some tickets, you bet.

3. Triple H. Don't like him but he's the focal point of RAW all the time. Part timer, I don't care. Still in fans eyes now, former fans and people that don't even watch, H, Lesnar and Undertaker are the biggest names in WWE.

4. Randy Orton. Still a top name, and loved by casuals. Creative was at a loss with him before injury. Which is pretty pathetic.

5. Dean Ambrose. He's Intercontinental champion, Vince's go to guy when injuries go down, or for house show/Smackdown, even most RAW main events. Sells merch on the level of John Cena (see WWE Shop for proof). He's now being solidified as Vince's upper midcard guy, and still more popular than Reigns despite every chance to hold him back. Give him a microphone more often, and he'll be white hot like in 2014, and Elimination Chamber this year. He's obviously held back for this guy.....

6. Roman Reigns. The biggest push in wrestling history hasn't exactly got him far, and I want to like the guy and did until I was force fed rehased bullshit the past two months. He gets modest reactions, when someone else with his booking would be blowing the roof off of arena's, and not booed at major events. Merch sales are solid, but I'm sure house shows are filled with Reigns merch, and not much else. They did the same thing with Cena when his popularity started to dwindle.

So yeah, he's not even close to the face of WWE.

OK most people here saying cena is still the face of wwe and not roman.... perhaps in reality he is but kayfabe wise roman is the face and that is wat i meant... he is the main attraction of raw ever sine rollins got injured.. and i am pretty sure that he is going to mainevent wrestlemania for the second consecutive year... on the other hand cena is no longer portrayed as the face.... it has been 3 years since he main evented wrestlemania.. he is not booked strongly like brock or roman.. also cena hasn't been around for 2 months and he will not be for the next 6-9 months.. so my question is can roman sustain as the face kayfabe wise? if he can then he will obviously become the face in reality as well..

 

[venkyrenga]

No offence OP but that's an atrocious methodology for judging talent.

Firstly, you can't quantify any of these attributes and try to make an objective point out of it.

Secondly, not all of these attributes carry the same weightage in the wrestling business. You can be the best in the world at pure "wrestling" talent but without a considerable level of charisma, mic skills you'll more often than not find yourself oscillating between the mid card and low card, same can't be said for the guys who possess mic skill an charisma but are average wrestlers.

Thirdly, you can be decent at most of the parameters but still won't not necessarily be a worthy main event talent. Take for example Ambrose- someone who is the proverbial jack of all trades - in the sense that he excels at absolutely nothing. He isn't great on the mic, hardly ever speaks anything you'd remember as a great piece one week later.. has mostly been below par in non gimmick matches.. doesn't have any considerable charisma either.. but is decent enough at all of them to be a credible long term mid-carder, a role in which he is doing pretty good and would probably keep going so for the next 5-10 years or so.

I agree it is not a good idea to quantify the skills.. but these 5 attributes are all a pro-wrestler requires... and i can't think of one talent who stayed on top without at least 20 in this scale... can anyone tell me if there is one?

 

[venkyrenga]

Im going to fix it for you:

Triple H - 23.5

Wrestling skills - 4.5
Ring Psychology - 4.5
Charisma - 4.5
Mic skills - 5
Looks - 5

John Cena - 24

Wrestling skills - 4.5
Ring Psychology - 4.5
Charisma - 5
Mic skills - 5
Looks - 5

CM Punk - 8.5

Wrestling skills - 2
Ring Psychology - 1.5
Charisma - 2
Mic skills - 2
Looks - 1

Daniel Bryan - 16.5

Wrestling skills - 4
Ring Psychology - 3.5
Charisma - 4
Mic skills - 4
Looks - 1

Roman Reigns - 23.5

Wrestling skills - 5
Ring Psychology - 4.5
Charisma - 5
Mic skills - 4
Looks - 5

Really, CM punk 8.5 and roman 23.5? that is wat u can give the best in the world