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Sorta. We diverged from that in the 1990s to more normal looking action stars. Then the trend reversed itself around 2012, with Dwayne Johnson revealing a new and improved physique to relaunch his career in Journey 2 Mysterious Island. Now it seems you have to be really jacked up to be a viable action star.
It was definitely when the big comic book heroes really came in to the spotlight. Huge Jackman, Henry Cavill, later Chris Hemsworth - all clearly 10kgs of muscle above their normal size.
 

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It feels kinda pointless arguing anything of that matter right now seeing that wrestling is completely dead, but heh.

No, small wrestlers are not FOTC worthy material, they are hard to book and non believable against bigger guys, unless the had weight divisions, which would be stupid in pro wrestling.
 

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Yes.

The only way it works though is if this small wrestler has such ridiculous charisma and promo skills like The Rock that the matches become secondary. In the classic section people debated his terrible booking but he was bulletproof in the sense that as long as he cut a promo, hit a people’s elbow the fans went home happy. If you can get a smaller guy to achieve that he can absolutely be face of the company. I don’t ever see it because smaller guys are usually hired solely for their work rate.

Also they do need to have muscles. Maybe genetically they can’t have 24 inch pythons, but they should have definition on their arms, abs and chest.
 

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You can't compare today's guys physiques to those of anyone's in the 80s, 90s or early 2000s. Most of them were on roids, today's wrestlers aren't and for good reason. None of them have died before they're 40. Today unless you want to put weird shit like growth hormone in your body you're on an uphill battle compared to Hogan, Warrior, Rock, Angle, HHH, Austin, Goldberg etc. It's not a fair comparison to those guys.
 

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That's not what we're saying though. In all those cases of David vs Goliath, David is usually getting his ass kicked for most of the match and relies on just outlasting the monster or breaking the monster down somehow. Trading blows, a-la Rocky Balboa would be ridiculous.
The premise of the thread is about whether a smaller dude can be FOTC. Not about the specifics of how you lay out a David vs Goliath match. That’s a sidebar and is not what’s being said overall.

So you book a smaller guy who can outwrestle or outmaneuver bigger guys. Maybe sometimes the guy eeks out a victory, maybe other times they intelligently target the head, evade, and bring the body down and use strategy to beat them. That’s match layout stuff that can be figured out to protect a hot act that happens to be small.
 

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I like the idea of having a smaller weight division going for the IC Title or similar like that. They just need to build up the credibility like NJPW did with the likes of Nakamura when he had it. It was easily on par with the heavyweight in terms of credibility.
 

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I like the idea of having a smaller weight division going for the IC Title or similar like that. They just need to build up the credibility like NJPW did with the likes of Nakamura when he had it. It was easily on par with the heavyweight in terms of credibility.
They should definitely have that and put the work into it like they did with the Womens division. UFC has already shown us that, if you let wrestlers succeed within their weight class and treat a “World Championship” as a world championship, size matters not and they could conceivably close the show with a lower weight class headlining and outdrawing the big boys.
 

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It was definitely when the big comic book heroes really came in to the spotlight. Huge Jackman, Henry Cavill, later Chris Hemsworth - all clearly 10kgs of muscle above their normal size.
Absolutely. Look at the difference in Jackman’s physique in X Men (2000) vs X Men Origins Wolverine (2009). He might have been the trendsetter.
 

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No. The top face can't be an underdog, since you can't book underdogs as champions for long, and it makes everyone look bad, imagine Killer Kross jobbing to Adam Cole in 3 consecutive matches, that shit doesn't work.
For today standards, a top face should be at least the size of PAC, 190 lbs at least, anything lower will hurt the company.
 

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The fans are really what makes the FOTC in my opinion. If a 145 - 160lb wrestler was to get insanely over to the point where he became a legit draw and money maker then yes it's possible because even a company like WWE couldn't ignore success like that, but that's a big if. Most wrestling fans are conditioned to believe that bigger is better so according to tradition a big guy should be the FOTC but exceptions can be made. If guys like Jeff Hardy and Rey Mysterio can get over then you never know.
 
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Reigns was just the wrong guy for the job.

Give Rollins his push and WWE would be in a much better position now.

Size doesn't matter. As I have said before, Gargano would draw very well if given a mega push. He is who modern wrestling fans want to see.
 

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Of course. If Mayweather can be face of boxing at 140lb and McGregor face of mma at 160 then a smaller guy can be face of pro wrestling.

Once you pigeon hole yourself into believing only big guys should be on top you limit the chance of anyone becoming a breakout star. It's akin to a circus having the main attraction always the strongman and every other act as filler..

WWE for 40 years have tried to tell the story that Hulk Hogan, Cena, Reigns were underdogs and odds were stacked against Austin so in theory a smaller guy on top would actually be perfect for the story they are attempting to tell at least last decade because nobody buys Cena or reigns as underdogs.


Except Rollins is nowhere near 140 lol



Noble and Mercury aren't that small

On day people will see what we see - that Rollins is just as talented as Austin, Rock, etc.

It's all about the booking.
 

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Reigns was just the wrong guy for the job.

Give Rollins his push and WWE would be in a much better position now.

Size doesn't matter. As I have said before, Gargano would draw very well if given a mega push. He is who modern wrestling fans want to see.
The smaller the wrestler, the more charismatic he/she needs to be, coupled with in ring ability. Perfect example is Michaels. Even in the steroid-less WWE of 1995 he was one of the smaller wrestlers, but his charisma was fantastic and his workrate off the charts. On the opposite end, a larger wrestler needs only to be competent in the ring as long as they are charismatic. So be a FOTC, Shawn Michaels had to be more of a complete package than Hulk Hogan. Heck, he even had to have a superior physique than Hogan,

If you want Johnny Gargano or an MJF to be FOTC, they cannot just be a strong in ring technician with no character and just a strong move set. They have to compensate for lack of attention getting size by excelling in all areas - promos, innate charisma, ringwork, and physique. So it can be done, it’s just going to require exponentially more of the smaller competitor.
 

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You can't compare today's guys physiques to those of anyone's in the 80s, 90s or early 2000s. Most of them were on roids, today's wrestlers aren't and for good reason. None of them have died before they're 40. Today unless you want to put weird shit like growth hormone in your body you're on an uphill battle compared to Hogan, Warrior, Rock, Angle, HHH, Austin, Goldberg etc. It's not a fair comparison to those guys.
Lol there are many wrestlers today on steroids, including Drew, Jinder, Orton, hell even "smaller" guys like Cesaro, Ziggler, etc. it's impossible with their schedule to stay in such condition without any help with "suplements".

Also those wrestlers that died before 40 did not die from steroids (only), they died because they were idiots who combined cocaine, heroine, steroids, pain killers, bad diet, partying, lack of sleep, constant wear on body, etc.

Look at Vince, dude was on steroids most of his life and still alive to this day. Look at Lesnar, Cena, Batista, HHH, etc, they were on steroids most of their lives yet they are still going strong today BECAUSE they were not idiots who also did other drugs combined with steroids too.
 
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