Calm teen calls 911 after murdering his mother & sister

Clearly a very disturbed young man & a tragedy.
The 991 recipient that handled that phonecall did amazingly.

Listening to the call now. Before listening, the circumstances involved make me think that this is possibly schizophrenia related. There is obviously some sort of mental imbalance here, as he states that he has been planning on killing for a while.

Chilling call, really horrible situation.

What a sad situation. I was mocking the April chick being missing earlier on today, but even I feel bad for this kid.

I could imagine a lot of the phone operators would just hang up if they heard him say what he done and be so .. casual about it, thinking it was a prank.

Scary.

I couldn't listen for too long. I got the jist ... I feel since this was such a gruesome crime, he'll be charged as an adult although he's 17.

I couldn't, really.

Too frightening when you really think about it.

That is very disturbing. Don't know what would drive someone to do something like this. People killing themselves I understand but just killing family randomly is bizarre. Obviously something terribly wrong with his mental state. No excuse for doing something like this tho.

In a different sort of way I have a lot of respect for both of those people, I watched a small news report on it too, and his sister was home schooled too. Seemed like such a lovely family. Unusual situation. Also, I don't like the automatic assumptions that people have to be mentally unstable in all 'uncommon' situation. Whether it's eventually proven or not.

The word "excuse" is an odd one....
If someone has mental issues than they do. It's not an excuse, its just a fact.
I think anyone who murders without motive is insane.

AJBurnett said:

Also, I don't like the automatic assumptions that people have to be mentally unstable in all 'uncommon' situation. Whether it's eventually proven or not.

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This. I agree 100%. Seems like it's used WAY too often these days...

BehindYou said:

The word "excuse" is an odd one....
If someone has mental issues than they do. It's not an excuse, its just a fact.
I think anyone who murders without motive is insane.

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I agree for the most part. It isn't a huge stretch to assume that somebody who kills his family without knowing exactly why he did it, and calmly speaks to a 911 operator for an extended period has something going on in his head.

Or maybe the fact that someone is speaking calmly after such an event shows they are mentally sound, I'm not saying I know or don't know about that boy, but in general. If you can consciously think about murder you can murder, you don't need to be crazy or have motive to do it, and 'wanting to do it', or in this case, 'I've just wanted to, I'd been planning for a while', is a motive.

AJBurnett said:

Or maybe the fact that someone is speaking calmly after such an event shows they are mentally sound, I'm not saying I know or don't know about that boy, but in general. If you can consciously think about murder you can murder, you don't need to be crazy or have motive to do it, and 'wanting to do it', or in this case, 'I've just wanted to, I'd been planning for a while', is a motive.

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Wanting to kill and not knowing why can also be an indication of quite a few mental illnesses. I don't think that we, as uninvolved third parties, are qualified to make a diagnosis, and I apologize if I came across badly in implying so.

Warren Zevon said:

Wanting to kill and not knowing why can also be an indication of quite a few mental illnesses. I don't think that we, as uninvolved third parties, are qualified to make a diagnosis, and I apologize if I came across badly in implying so.

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Your right that it can be, but if I say I want to kill someone and I actually did it, it doesn't mean I have something 'wrong' with me, if you can think objectively about something you can do it.
I get what you meant/mean though, I just think it's silly, not by you in particular, but in general, that people are labelled and told that they're a certain way if they do something that people 'frown upon' they must have something 'wrong' with them. It just objectifies people.

Seems like schizophrenia to me.

Clearly mentally unstable. But should still be charged as a sane person

That creeped me right the fuck out.