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They need to either sign Cage or Ryback but not both because they are basically the same guy.
Cage is far better in the ring and way more diverse. Ryback is limited. Cage reminds me of prime Steiner in the ring.
 

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Cage is far better in the ring and way more diverse. Ryback is limited. Cage reminds me of prime Steiner in the ring.
i think Ryback might be better on the mic.

what about this Hammerstone guy i’ve been seeing with MJF. Any good?
 

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LMAO at these people that think AEW should sign Matt Hardy and Ryback

Just crazy!
Yeah I don't really want either of these guys in AEW. I think Matt Hardy's sense of humor combined with The Elite's sense of humor would mix into something horrible.
 

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Well, if he hasn't signed, then hopefully the brass at AEW have seen that most were excited at the prospect of this guy in the company and try to work out a deal with him.

Meltzer is very connected with these guys. So I'm not buying it unless he says he hasn't signed. If he says I dunno or keeps silent. Then I'm thinking he's signed.
 

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Why do you want neither?
I'll be honest, Matt Hardy's broken stuff doesn't do it for me.

I did kinda like Ryback's bully character but I dunno I'm not that excited for him and I'd rather someone I'm not as familiar with, with more potential get the opportunities he would get.
 

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Meltzer is very connected with these guys. So I'm not buying it unless he says he hasn't signed. If he says I dunno or keeps silent. Then I'm thinking he's signed.
Meltzer has also said:

* AEW has done better on PPV than anyone since WCW, which is only true if you conflate international buys with domestic. They are not at ECW levels in NA yet.

* He said they didn’t think Randy Orton was worth Chris Jericho money. Tony Khan himself posted on Twitter that Orton negotiated his WWE deal using the AEW offer for leverage. It’s well-known that Orton was already on several million per year. The AEW deal would need to be higher than that.

* AEW can get anyone they want. So far that would be mean the talent they want is Kris Statlander, and the talent they don’t want is CM Punk, Randy Orton, AJ Styles, The Usos, Shinsuke Nakamura, Cain Velasquez and Lance Storm.

* Vince McMahon would take over NXT booking.

* AEW had plans for months.

* PAC had to pull out because he couldn’t do any jobs. He was scheduled to lose. This doesn’t make any sense.

He’s been wrong, misled or purposely deceitful about a lot of things since this “war” started. I like Dave. I don’t think he’s deceiving people. I think he leads with his biases and he will take some manipulative people at face value and, for example, buy their story that Randy Orton was indignant about a low-ball offer, instead of him just working them to get more Vince money.

I will so fucking lol if ROH has ponied up the cash for Brian Cage and Melissa Santos, and this was another AEW brag about something they haven’t done yet.
 

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I'm not going to believe that Brian Cage has signed with AEW until I see him on my television screen or it is formally announced. AEW haven't had the signing power we hoped they would have, so it's very plausible that Cage hasn't signed. Let's just wait and see.
 

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I'm not going to believe that Brian Cage has signed with AEW until I see him on my television screen or it is formally announced. AEW haven't had the signing power we hoped they would have, so it's very plausible that Cage hasn't signed. Let's just wait and see.

AEW signed most of the guys they wanted. It's not like there been many guys who were FA that AEW wanted and didn't get. They got Statlander and Santana and Ortiz to pick them over WWE.


But yes not believing he's signed until AEW announces it. Well that's exactly what AEW wants and why they and Cage are creating doubt. Let's not forget Cage was backstage at Double Or Nothing and going to appear in Casino Battle Royal. Until Don Callis wouldn't allow it. So he clearly has strong relationship with these guys.
 

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AEW signed most of the guys they wanted. It's not like there been many guys who were FA that AEW wanted and didn't get. They got Statlander and Santana and Ortiz to pick them over WWE.

But yes not believing he's signed until AEW announces it. Well that's exactly what AEW wants and why they and Cage are creating doubt. Let's not forget Cage was backstage at Double Or Nothing and going to appear in Casino Battle Royal. Until Don Callis wouldn't allow it. So he clearly has strong relationship with these guys.
They may have been hoping to attract some names away from WWE that they haven't managed to obtain - CM Punk, Randy Orton, Gallows/Anderson. With WWE, it's been proven that money talks. Also, they likely wanted Marty Scurll, who has re-signed with ROH.

If that's what AEW wants, then that's great with me. I prefer surprises and when signings don't get leaked. It's better for the product.
 

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I still believe Cage is ultimately going to end up in AEW once he's healed. But this is a concern for people losing their minds on this signing. This isn't the 1st time he's been injured. It seems like he's injured rather frequently, and it's hard to really build around someone like that if they're not there.

Also, when it comes to Ryback, I don't see what the benefit there would to signing him in 2020. He hasn't really wrestled in 4 years. And I don't know if I can see shining now 4 years later with all that time away. Now I will say back in 2012, Ryback could have been something. He was getting monster reactions working with guys like Punk and Cena. He could have been a star. And then they jobbed him out on like 10 straight PPVs, and that dream died. And I just don't see him having that same magic in 2020.
 

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There’s no real benefit to keeping it quiet. I mean, they don’t have to go out there and parade it from the rooftops, but the only people who know who this guy is, really, is the wrestling community. This isn’t CM Punk or Mox coming in.

I imagine he hasn’t signed, and I’m still thinking if he is healthy, he ends up going with ROH because something is up there.
 

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They may have been hoping to attract some names away from WWE that they haven't managed to obtain - CM Punk, Randy Orton, Gallows/Anderson. With WWE, it's been proven that money talks. Also, they likely wanted Marty Scurll, who has re-signed with ROH.

If that's what AEW wants, then that's great with me. I prefer surprises and when signings don't get leaked. It's better for the product.

They weren't gonna get everyone from WWE all at once. Plus I don't think they wanted certain guys as much as people think. I think a lot of it was fan hype.


I don't really think they are after veterans chasing last big payday. Would they sign CM Punk, Orton or Gallows/Anderson sure. But they clearly didn't offer Punk enough money to comeback even for a few matches.


While they probably made it clear to Orton and Gallows/Anderson they weren't gonna pay them more then what WWE was offering if they became free agents.


Too me it seems like talent they are more targetting. Is talent thats creative, feels underused and wants to prove themselves. Brian Cage wants to prove he can be a top guy in a bigger stage. Brodie Lee feels like he can be a bigger asset away from WWE.


Matt Hardy doesn't want to sit on the sidelines. He wants to use his creativity in wrestling. A team like Revival want to be taken more seriously and go to a place that cares more about tag team wrestling. Killer Kross is another very creative guy who wants to prove himself. Now will all these guys go to AEW? Of course not and some might end up in WWE.


But to me its clear that AEW isn't looking to sign wrestlers to come and make big fat checks near the end of their career. They are doing the opposite of WCW and TNA. Which is smart business.


Like I said before until Meltzer reports Cage hasn't signed. Well I think he signed. Meltzer knows if he did or not. He won't confirm it, if AEW doesn't want him to. But he also probably won't straight up say he didnt sign, if he did. So if he plays dumb saying I dunno or doesn't mention it. I think that answers the question. The source who reported it is very well connected to wrestlers from California/PWG. He doesn't report bs very often and still hasn't said his report was wrong. Despite what Cage wife said and what people told Mike Johnson.
 

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That makes no sense, lol. Those are just apologetics. They don’t want guys at the end of their career, yet they sign Jericho? How do you know they didn’t offer Punk enough money, and he just didn’t look at the product and so “Uhhh, nope?”

It would be smart to hire these stars who could be a benefit to your television and mass appeal. They didn’t get them because they could coerce them over. That’s the only thing that makes sense.

It is not good business to let everyone with a big name who could help you actually get eyeballs sign with WWE. WCW got a massive boost when they brought in established talent. It only became an issue when Hogan re-signed in 1998 because Bischoff didn’t know what he was doing.
 
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