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It's like you've completely forgotten about the bananas thing already.

And, as someone else pointed out earlier, we're getting BLUE PASSPORTS!!! No way we could have those without leaving. Oh, we could?? Ah well :lol


Every remainers worst nightmare, look whats coming in! (This was changed in 2009 but idiots still bought it hook line and sinker)
 
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Of course it is. How are you guys getting along with reuniting those children with their parents?
People should be more worried about what will happen to them when they're forced to go back to their drug cartel-ran hellhole of a country. I imagine an ICE facility is paradise compared to that.
 

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People should be more worried about what will happen to them when they're forced to go back to their drug cartel-ran hellhole of a country. I imagine an ICE facility is paradise compared to that.
It's almost like they were trying to get to America to better their own lives. They must have heard about that American Dream thing.

Oh sorry, that doesn't apply to foreigners anymore. My mistake.

So, you're also going to gloss over the fact that the man lied through his teeth about stopping tiny children being ripped away for their families? He constantly claimed that it was all Congress and there was nothing he could do. Then miraculously he signed that EO and it stopped. How strange.

Anyway, I fear we are derailing a topic about the fucked up government in the UK. Now is not the time to talk about Great & Powerful Leader Kim-Don Trump
 

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It's almost like they were trying to get to America to better their own lives. They must have heard about that American Dream thing.

Oh sorry, that doesn't apply to foreigners anymore. My mistake.
Apology accepted.

So, you're also going to gloss over the fact that the man lied through his teeth about stopping tiny children being ripped away for their families? He constantly claimed that it was all Congress and there was nothing he could do. Then miraculously he signed that EO and it stopped. How strange.
He did lie, because the executive order doesn't actually do anything. :lol He can't stop it. Back when the Obama administration wanted to keep parents and children held together in custody, they were shut down by the courts which is why its currently policy to have them separated (and has been since before Trump took office). Any attempt Trump makes to end the separation will also be struck down. He's just trying to quell the ignorant, uninformed public outrage, instigated by the press to make up for the utter collapse of the Russian collusion narrative and the revelations that the FBI was trying to sabotage Trump's election campaign.
 

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Apology accepted.
:eyeroll

He did lie, because the executive order doesn't actually do anything. :lol He can't stop it. Back when the Obama administration wanted to keep parents and children held together in custody, they were shut down by the courts which is why its currently policy to have them separated (and has been since before Trump took office). Any attempt Trump makes to end the separation will also be struck down. He's just trying to quell the ignorant, uninformed public outrage, instigated by the press to make up for the utter collapse of the Russian collusion narrative and the revelations that the FBI was trying to sabotage Trump's election campaign.
Jesus! You really just believe anything that Fox/Trump tells you don't you?
 

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Jesus! You really just believe anything that Fox/Trump tells you don't you?
Everything I said there is verifiable fact, except of course for the speculation about the media's motives. That's just me reading between the lines. ;)

Also I literally began that post by saying Trump did lie, so no, clearly I don't believe everything he says. :lol
 

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Everything I said there is verifiable fact, except of course for the speculation about the media's motives. That's just me reading between the lines. ;)

Also I literally began that post by saying Trump did lie, so no, clearly I don't believe everything he says. :lol
"Trump has responded to criticisms of family separation by claiming that a “Democratic law” requires him to do it, and that if Congress doesn’t like it, they can change the law.

This is not true. There is no law that requires immigrant families to be separated. The decision to charge everyone crossing the border with illegal entry — and the decision to charge asylum seekers in criminal court rather than waiting to see if they qualify for asylum — are both decisions the Trump administration has made.

Other administration officials back up Trump by pointing to the laws that give extra protections to families, unaccompanied children, and asylum seekers. The administration has been asking Congress to change these laws since it came into office, and has blamed them for stopping Trump from securing the border the way he’d like. (Those aren’t “Democratic laws” either; the law addressing unaccompanied children was passed overwhelmingly in 2008 and signed by George W. Bush, while the restriction on detaining families is a result of federal litigation.)

In that context, the law isn’t forcing Trump to separate families; it’s keeping Trump from doing what he’d perhaps really like to do, which is simply sending families back or keeping them in detention together, and so he has had to resort to plan B."



We really need to stop talking about a scumbag Dictator, as this thread is supposed to be about Brexit. I'm sure you'll want the last word though
 

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Why does this:



Remind me so much of this:

Being a royalist is one thing but does Theresa really need to bow like that? It's just William ffs he won't be King till like the 2040s at least, assuming the monarchy is still a thing then (you never know King Charles and Queen Camilla Parker Bowles could very well toxify Buckingham Palace and public opinion about the Monarchy).

I always wondered what would happen if we had a Trump style Prime Minister who openingly bashed and talked shit about the royals in public, somewhat similar to Piers but more 'offensive', especially to Charles, Philip and Andrew. It would provide me with a good amount of lols :lol
 

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This was always going to happen.

Something else the 52% obviously forgot to tell us about,
Honestly i don't know if my resentment for them will ever leave me completely.

The most googled thing in the UK on the night of the referendum result was,
'what does the EU actually do'
That should tell you everything you need to know about the path we are now heading towards,
Yet the only arguments i ever heard from the average Brexiter on the street was about immigration and the curve of a Banana.

The Daily Mail and TV Stations that gave Farage disproportionate amounts of air time seriously owe the UK an explanation.

Its all about divide and conquer its what the Tory party has always been about,
You see it with the massive political age divide within the UK, You see it with Disabled People pretty much getting the blame for a global recession instead of the banks and middle classes, The Scots, Little Englanders,Londoners and second generation Immigrants who supports Brexit.

They have torn the UK Apart and i fear people will not see the consequences until it is to late,
But hey at least we will have straight Bananas while Europe's most Dangerous criminals can walk the streets of the UK without our authorities having any idea of their previous behaviors.

Gosh it makes so angry still.

Cheers for sharing OP.
Peace and love guys,
and Be Excellent to each other....Always.
I always enjoy listening to Remainers whinge plus I suspect you get your ideas from your teacher
 

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I always enjoy listening to Remainers whinge plus I suspect you get your ideas from your teacher
I'm 28 so its been awhile since i had a teacher,
I do like a good whinge though so you are correct in that statement,

Although the fact i preemptively had to find a new job when the referendum result was announced,
Gives me a right to whinge i feel.

Seeing as you enjoy listening to a good whinge,
Please feel free to ask me any questions about why i hold my 'remainer' beliefs and i will be more than happy to share them with you.

Have a good evening Sir.
 

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I'm 28 so its been awhile since i had a teacher,
I do like a good whinge though so you are correct in that statement,

Although the fact i preemptively had to find a new job when the referendum result was announced,
Gives me a right to whinge i feel.

Seeing as you enjoy listening to a good whinge,
Please feel free to ask me any questions about why i hold my 'remainer' beliefs and i will be more than happy to share them with you.

Have a good evening Sir.

Ok fair play to you then

I get sick of listening to retarded school aged kids banging on about it (GMB had some utter fool on last week chatting utter crap)

either way I think a fudge is on the cards that will piss off both sides and the Tories will be fucked for a generation (if they ever recover)
 

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Ok fair play to you then

I get sick of listening to retarded school aged kids banging on about it (GMB had some utter fool on last week chatting utter crap)

either way I think a fudge is on the cards that will piss off both sides and the Tories will be fucked for a generation (if they ever recover)
So Brexit isn't all bad then. Just mostly bad
 

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44761056

Brexit Secretary David Davis resigns

Brexit Secretary David Davis has resigned from the UK government.

His departure comes days after Theresa May secured the cabinet's backing for her Brexit plan despite claims from critics that it was "soft".

Mr Davis was appointed to the post in 2016 and was responsible for negotiating the UK's EU withdrawal.

Junior minister Steven Baker quit shortly after Mr Davis - as Mrs May prepares to face MPs and peers later.

In his resignation letter, Mr Davis told Mrs May "the current trend of policy and tactics" was making it "look less and less likely" that the UK would leave the customs union and single market.

He said he was "unpersuaded" that the government's negotiating approach "will not just lead to further demands for concessions" from Brussels.

Mr Davis said: "The general direction of policy will leave us in at best a weak negotiating position, and possibly an inescapable one."

In her reply, Mrs May said: "I do not agree with your characterisation of the policy we agreed at Cabinet on Friday."

She said she was "sorry" he was leaving but would "like to thank you warmly for everything you have done... to shape our departure from the EU".

'Absolute chaos'

Conservative MP Peter Bone hailed the resignation as a "principled and brave decision", adding: "The PM's proposals for a Brexit in name only are not acceptable."

Labour Party chairman Ian Lavery said: "This is absolute chaos and Theresa May has no authority left."

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said Mrs May was "incapable of delivering Brexit".

'No choice but resignation'
By BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg

After many months of rumours that he would pull the plug, David Davis has actually quit as Brexit Secretary.

His unhappiness in government has been no secret for some time, but after the prime minister's Chequers agreement with cabinet ministers to pursue closer ties with the EU than he desired, he found his position untenable.

After a visit to Downing Street on Sunday he concluded that he had no choice but to walk.

The move, while not completely surprising, throws doubt on to how secure the government's Brexit strategy is.

In the Commons on Monday Mrs May is expected to tell MPs that the strategy agreed on by the cabinet at Chequers on Friday is the "right Brexit" for Britain.

Brexiteer MP Jacob Rees-Mogg said it would be "very difficult" for Mrs May's plans to win the backing of MPs without Mr Davis.

He told BBC 5 Live: "These proposals will have to come to the House of Commons in legislation and the question is 'will they command support from Conservative MPs?'.

"And I think without David Davis there, without his imprimatur, it will be very difficult for them to get the support of Conservative MPs and therefore the prime minister would be well advised to reconsider them."

BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg said she understands Mr Davis was "furious" after a meeting at Number 10 earlier on Sunday and "concluded he could not stay in post".

She also said that Environment Secretary Michael Gove is the favourite to take on the vacant post.

On Sunday he told the BBC he was urging Tory MPs to support Mrs May.

Some Remain-supporting politicians said the resignation was evidence of the need for a second referendum.

Baron Adonis, a prominent backer of a second vote, tweeted: "People's Vote to put Brexit out of its misery a big step closer after DD's resignation. Now the Brexiteers holding Mrs May hostage are falling out, there isn't a majority for any withdrawal treaty in Parliament."

Theresa May addressed her cabinet members at a meeting at Chequers on Friday
The Liberal Democrats called on people to sign a petition for a vote on the proposed deal, adding: "The resignation of David Davis is yet more evidence of the chaos of this Tory Brexit. You deserve the final say".

Conservative MP William Wragg, who campaigned for Brexit, said the resignation was "the right thing to do" while Tory MP Andrea Jenkyns, who quit a junior government role earlier this year to "fight for Brexit", said it was "fantastic news", adding: "Well done David Davis for having the principle and guts to resign".

SNP Westminster leader Ian Blackford called on Mrs May to "see sense and bring forward a plan that heeds the mounting evidence against a hard Brexit".

Nigel Farage congratulated Mr Davis for quitting and called for Mrs May to be replaced as prime minister, accusing her of being "duplicitous" and claiming her response "shows she is controlled by the civil service".
 

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What a laughing stock we are.

At least the football's coming home.
 
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