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There are no proper rules, as said by yourself Nitemare, you never even bothered to finish the job.

Credit: http://www.weforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12891

However, I will take the guidelines you laid down, and show you a few things.

1. No racism comments. Any racism comments is liable for banning. If it's not too bad, you may be banned for a few days or warned. DO NOT TRY TO FIND OUT!

It was not racist in any way, it was a factual post that had an educational purpose...I didn't go running around screaming HAHAHAHA AMERICA SUX THEY ALL DESERVED TO DIE. You yourself Lee have made a lot of racist remarks. I haven't reacted to them in a like manored way, and for this, I think of myself as a better person than you. I value human life and found 9/11 to be a tragedy, it's a shame terrorism works.

What I did was use reliable sources to prove a point I was more than doubted on.

To clear up a few things. What I meant when I said this:

Rest in guilt those Americans who commit the same mistakes that caused this to happen the first time, and have no doubt caused it to someday happen again.

I meant how generally Americans use patriotism as an excuse to be racist. If you are saying things like: LALALALA AMERICA RULES WE DO NO WRONG WE ARE THE BEST THINGY EVER THE BEAUTIFUL STARS AND STRIPES AND STUFF EVERYWHERE ELSE SUCKS! Then do you really expect everywhere to say, wow. America. That sure is a great place. I wish I lived there with all those arrogant racist people. Gee whizz. Let me go buy my plane ticket right now.

G man said: what did you expect from me. and are you trying to say you expect nothing more from me because i'm and american?

Not my intension, I was not doubting you because you were American but find your posts to be less than meaningful. Let's put it that way.

Babyboy said: What do you mean? It isn't our fault this happened. It was just some dumb ass who want dominance. US has become the most powerful nation and for that, others don't like us. I think Osama thinks that with him hurting us bad, he can start with world attacks. Well, it isn't going to happen. One more thing, why blame us. The people of the US haven't done anything wrong. REally, when it comes down to war, it's up to the Congress and the President. Don't blame the people of the US.

OBL didn't want dominance. Read though my chile post and it shows that the rest of the world isn't "jealous".

OlympicZero/N.A said: He has no idea what he's talking about. He's just trying to sound smart by saying the US is responsible, when he's just making an ass of himself.

Not directly my intension, but my Chile post shows how it'd been coming for a long time, and it wasn't about "jealousy" as seems to be the popular, and wrong belief.

Egomaniac said: RIP to all who lost their lives because of some jealous asshole.

Untrue. He was not jealous. However I share the sentiment, RIP.

Babyboy I know we had a little spat but I respect you for maturity beyond your age.

Remember when ChrisDV got banned for talking shit about Nitemare's dog who passed on? About a week later myself and Babyboy got in an arguement on MSN, he said something along the lines of "You deserved to have your dad beat the shit out of you" to which he apologised, I accepted and he even sent me a follow up mail. I was deeply, deeply offended but worked out the problem, it doesn't bother me because he didn't mean it. Someone said something against Lee and Lee banned them. I expect you still bare malice towards ChrisDV. Which solution was better? I could've "dobbed" Babyboy in(we solved our problem in a more mature way) and probably had him banned, but then again, Nitemare has special rules for himself, and rules for others. Nazi-esq.

Nitemare said: You cannot insult the dead. It's not an opinion; it's not allowed.

In no part of that did I ever insult the dead.

Nitemare said: You can say it's breaking the rules (ones I made, and ones I can break and not have to answer to anyone for breaking), but some mod *cough* Jake *cough* sent someone stuff in the Trash Can, and that's not good.

I asked Jake to send it, and I had the links so I could have re-typed it with ease, so no need to take cheap shots at Jake, just would've delayed my post by a few minutes.

Flash said: Your other thread was deleted not for its content, but for it's timing. No government is angelic, but there are times and places to be going into it. To think that the time for it is now is insensitive to say the least.

I would've caught flack whenever I posted it, I just chose it at a time when it might be read, when some Americans who weren't informed of it at the time might be curious, rather than have it sink to the bottom of the forum without even one reply.

Ask yourselves, why did the U.S. media not even comment on this? Because they're telling you what you want to hear. Patriotic Americans are good for the economy and backing the president. Of course they don't tell you they ever did any wrong...So why not open your eyes and read up a little?

How about we stop people from saying anything vaguely against England, the English people here might be offended. Oh wait. It only counts for America.

BDV1 is just upset because he lives in England. It's understandable.

Exactly the attitude I've been referring too. Such arrogance, but I've come to expect this from you Nitemare. After all, you abuse your administrative power on a near daily basis.

How many posts of mine have you deleted Lee? The ones that bared a slight meaning against your hold on the scared little newbies. You really are pathetic at times man. Which is why I expect this to be my last post. I spoke my mind. Within the rules. Educated a few people. For this I will be punished.
 

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I have to agree with Breakdown Version 1 here.

"BDV1 is just upset because he lives in England. It's understandable."

This is arrogance. There is nothing wrong with Britain, as I'm sure there is nothing wrong with America. But if I ever said 'America Sux', or 'America is Shit' or anything else against America that I would get banned. Why is this, when you can be racist all you want, the rules should be the same for everyone.

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I think that "BDV1 is just upset because he lives in England. It's understandable." thing was a joke. Are you serious though, the actual reason ChrisDV got banned was because he talked about Lee's dog? I thought it was because he was a jackass on a daily basis. He also said something about Adam's mom(please don't get pissy) and Lee didn't ban him for that, or atleast I don't think he did. If Chris was banned for talking about Lee's dog, then that is some bullshit. I personally would like you to stay if you are allowed, because I never thought there was anything wrong with you posting that. People are too damn sensitive.
 

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I may have got that Lee part wrong, which I'm sure he will correct me on, I'm rather hazy on that period, but I remember that was quite a touchy few weeks and may have confused events, my apologies if what I said was incorrect.
 

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Breakdownversion1 said in post #1 :
Flash said: Your other thread was deleted not for its content, but for it's timing. No government is angelic, but there are times and places to be going into it. To think that the time for it is now is insensitive to say the least.

I would've caught flack whenever I posted it, I just chose it at a time when it might be read, when some Americans who weren't informed of it at the time might be curious, rather than have it sink to the bottom of the forum without even one reply.

Ask yourselves, why did the U.S. media not even comment on this? Because they're telling you what you want to hear. Patriotic Americans are good for the economy and backing the president. Of course they don't tell you they ever did any wrong...So why not open your eyes and read up a little?
You knew you would have caught flack whenever you posted it. You chose as your time to post it a time that was without a shadow of a doubt insensitive. The fact that you were aware that posting it would provoke such a backlash means that you were courting controversy and, consequently, trouble, either intentionally or without realising. It's so obvious what would happen that I believe the latter to have been impossible.

Nobody is naive enough to think that the American goverment, the British government or numerous other governments worldwide haven't committed atrocities in the past. We shouldn't forget that they happened, but there is no need to bring them up in this context, just to prove a point that didn't need proving, and certainly not now.

BDV1 does indeed have a problem. It's not knowing when to back down and admit that he acted inappropriately.
 

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Re: Re: BDV1 has a problem, Nitemare.

Nitemare said in post #11 :
It's quite funny that I NEVER mentioned you were being racist, so this whole part is completely a waste of space.
I am not racist and wanted that known. I was covering myself from being banned again too...Which happened, for what? 3 minutes. Real mature Lee.

Nitemare said in post #11 :

That's SOOO funny. No one here acted that way, nor did anyone here take up for any of the American governmental acts. You bringing this up on a day when so many died is uncalled for because you are basically justifying what Osama bin Laden did. In your post, you NEVER explained WHY America attacked Chile. Why? I don't support the U.S. government anyway....
I would never justify such an action but I'm trying to spread knowledge and explain. By reflecting we learn and don't repeat our mistakes. Oh, and I brought it up on september 12th. Idiot.

Nitemare said in post #11 :
No, Osama just wanted to attacked what is referred to as "the strongest nation." The rest of the world is jealous; I am sure most third-world countries are jealous of any country like U.S.A. or England. Well, I am sure I would be...

BUT I must ask you how YOU know what Osama wants or wanted.
What Osama wanted is pretty obvious, We studied it for about 3 months in Citizenship...It was a revenge attack that was supposed to as a lesser part of it highlight Chile 9/11, but the American media failed to draw the ties, or didn't want too.

Nitemare said in post #11 :
And still, your Chile post does not show anything referring to why U.S. attacked them. (Even if it is for no reason, it should be stated.)
Why should I justify or clarify anything. You clearly don't have too, oh mighty Nitemare who is above the rules.

Nitemare said in post #11 :
Man, oh man. Are you a mind-reader now?
Yes. You shouldn't think of Hanson that way.

Nitemare said in post #11 :
First of all, Chris never insulted my dog to my knowledge. I know someone did, and it was The Mean (just hit me). I did NOT ban Chris because of his comments towards Adam's mother, but he was later banned because of Jake, who has banned more people for no reason than me. Jake also wanted me to ban Iain, who I eventually unbanned because Jake had no reason to.
Thank you for correcting my point, it was indeed the mean and that's where my confusion occured, sorry to have brought it up Adam and Lee.

I find it rich you bring up Jake and Iain when YOU banned me for no reason what so ever...wasn't it three times? Oh wait, you did it for fun. Way to do your job.

Nitemare said in post #11 :
I never said you did. Ha ha. I was forewarning you that insulting the dead isn't allowed.
I never said you did say that i did :). I was just forewarning you that banning me for insulting the dead wasn't justified.

Nitemare said in post #11 :
That's not cheap shots; I was simply telling Jake he knows better.
Why should anyone do what you say when you don't follow your own rules. You're such a hypocrit making yourself above them. You know it's pretty pathetic dude, and quite a few people are MORE than sick of the way you act.

Nitemare said in post #11 :
lol, how many Americans here back the president? k...
Thanks to 9/11 quite a few...k...

Nitemare said in post #11 :
There's a difference; everyone here who puts England down is joking. Or at least the common posters.
It's rules for you and rules for everyone else, as A-Dust said, if we did that we'd be out of here on our asses.

Nitemare said in post #11 :
I'll have you know that Amish and Furness both live in England, so I doubt I'd be serious. Plus, Americans came from England...sooo...

If you don't like the "jokes," (they suck, yeah) get over yourself.
Amish and Furness check and contribute to forum life...how often exactly? Oh, right, make a joke about Amish owning the forums so he's always contributing...yeah...funny guy.

Nitemare said in post #11 :
I've never deleted any of your posts....
What happened to a few threads I made like "I was banned because..."
 
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ONe thing, how can you say it isn't out of jealousy or anything? Osama has always been on taking out US' most prized building. He did attack the World Trade Center back in '93 I think. Well, I know he attacked it before. Does that not show he is still jealous of the US?
 

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It's me everybodies favourite Ex-Mod here to say to things.

The USA commited the worlds largest terrorist act in history- The Nuclear Bombings

Bush does not have more then half of the country backing him, he shouldn't even be in office.
 
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