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With their new album 'Metal Resistance' coming out today, it's a good time to start talking about the international sensation. The crazy crossover appeal having famous fans all the way from Metalica to Lady Gaga.



In case you missed their triumphant rise to international fame over the past two years, meet BABYMETAL: A group of teenage girls from Japan, and every serious metal head’s worst nightmare. Originally members of the idol group Sakura Gakuin, BABYMETAL started as a subgroup melding the heavy metal genre with Japanese idol pop; a notoriously sugary and overly cutesy style of music. While it originally started as a one-off occurrence, what happened when they released their self-titled debut album BABYMETAL was no joke, going from being basically unknown to topping the Billboard U.S. World Albums charts and selling out tours across the globe. And now, with their sophomore album Metal Resistance, they’re preparing for global domination.

The gimmick hasn’t changed, mixing hyper idol music with metal to make for their unique sound, but it has become more light-handed. Songs like Iine! And Doki Doki Morning, with their random trap breakdowns and complete idol choruses never reappear, and metal becomes the number one focus. Their absence is made up by the sheer number of styles covered; YAVA! melds retro guitar pop verses with squealing synths and chugging guitars in their familiar experimental style, while Awadama Fever backs up the metal with a synthetic breakbeat instrumental, giving the song a more frenetic and energetic sound. Meta Taro mixes a militaristic beat with violins that recall the style of Celtic metal, and No Rain, No Rainbow is a serious, totally believable rock ballad the likes of which BABYMETAL have never covered.

It’s a cohesive piece of work that covers a variety of styles, and it shows off the different sides of BABYMETAL perfectly. Even if the idol elements have taken a backseat for the sake of experimenting, that pop edge is constant on even the heaviest tracks thanks to Su-metal’s cutesy yet surprisingly powerful vocals—If you have doubts about her voice, both the closing moments of KARATE and the downtempo electronica-fusion track From Dusk Till Dawn will convince you of her talent—which keeps anything from ever feeling too serious and foreboding. They tackle metal perfectly in every style without taking it overboard, and their music always has an epic feeling that captures the essence of their live performances perfectly. There’s been some serious growth since BABYMETAL, and it’s made Metal Resistance an even more compelling piece of work.

Though BABYMETAL may seem like a massive joke when you first experience them, writing them off in such a manner is incredibly foolish. With a seriously impressive live band behind them and a fresh take on the metal genre, they offer something that feels seriously unique and could even act as a way to bring metal music to an entirely new generation of listeners. Admittedly, they act as a fusion of two radically different niches that many would say have no business meshing together, and additionally still sing in Japanese rather than English which could limit their appeal, but to skip on Metal Resistance would be a grave mistake. BABYMETAL’s quest for global domination is truly starting to take flight. -
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The combination of J-pop with heavy metal has never sounded so good until Babymetal came along. Big fan of theirs (Y)
 

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if i'm honest, all this does is fuel my hatred towards anything with a "j-" before it, except j-horrors. :nerd: but if people like it, fair enough.
 

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i was exaggerating slightly, though there's no denying how creepy a large portion of japanese pop culture is.
There are a lot of weird things about the J-Pop culture, but this band is actually really good imo. It's unique for sure, but they don't sell out venues all over the world by accident. It's not exactly fair to lump them in with everything J-pop.
 

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Wait, which voice is creepy?
i'm not sure, i just played one of the clips at a random point, and one of the women(?) singing had a voice that made her sound way too young for her looks. something not uncommon either. it's especially freaky when you watch a porn video and the busty japanese woman opens her mouth for the first time. knocks you back for six, you exit the video before law enforcers kick your door down. if they sounded like proper adults when singing, that'd lessen the cringe.
 

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Ugh. Never liked them. There are far better metal bands from Japan and I absolutely hate their over-sensitive fanbase that gets angry at the metal community for not liking them.
 

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Yes, I love Babymetal. I'm preparing for exams this summer and Babymetal songs just get me in the zone to get shit done and put my head down to revise. No idea why but it just helps me focus. I also really like the songs, stuff like Gimme Chocolate and Ijime, Dame, Zettai are really good songs. I love the metal music coupled with the soft J-pop vocals, they seem to mesh really well for me. However, I definitely understand why it doesn't cross over well to Western culture.

And it's always funny when you first introduce Westerners to Babymetal. They always have that initial WTF reaction to it at first but most people eventually really like it. I think this could be like K-pop though, it could be something to cross-over from the Asian mainstream into Western culture. One of my friends whose really into this stuff like manga, anime and K-pop keeps on calling this stuff before it explodes and he thinks Babymetal could be pretty close to breaking out soon. And he was right about Attack On Titan and K-pop so I'm inclined to believe him.

I know they had some international tours recently and I don't know how those went but I think they sold out the SSE Arena in London so I think they have a pretty decent international presence. They actually happen to be playing near where I'm going on holiday this year so I got tickets to go. I'm really looking forward to that, their shows always look awesome to go to.
 

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i'm not sure, i just played one of the clips at a random point, and one of the women(?) singing had a voice that made her sound way too young for her looks. something not uncommon either. it's especially freaky when you watch a porn video and the busty japanese woman opens her mouth for the first time. knocks you back for six, you exit the video before law enforcers kick your door down. if they sounded like proper adults when singing, that'd lessen the cringe.
You should probably listen to a whole song instead of a random part. However, they shouldn't sound too old as two of them are 16 and one is 18.

Ugh. Never liked them. There are far better metal bands from Japan and I absolutely hate their over-sensitive fanbase that gets angry at the metal community for not liking them.
It would be silly to expect everyone to like them. Their music is too diverse for that. I wouldn't expect any particular person to have to like anything.

Still, I don't know why you'd say the metal community doesn't like them. That's pretty elitist of you to say. They are actually pretty popular in the metal community.





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It would be silly to expect everyone to like them. Their music is too diverse for that. I wouldn't expect any particular person to have to like anything.

Still, I don't know why you'd say the metal community doesn't like them. That's pretty elitist of you to say. They are actually pretty popular in the metal community.
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I'm only speaking of places I frequent. None of the metal forums or subreddits. In places like r/metal and metal-archives they're blacklisted.

But hey, I'm clearly just being an elitist.
 

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I'm only speaking of places I frequent. None of the metal forums or subreddits. In places like r/metal and metal-archives they're blacklisted.

But hey, I'm clearly just being an elitist.
Now, why is that exactly? If my internet forum experience has taught me anything, I doubt them getting blacklisted there has much at all to do with their actual music, and more to do with mods & over the top fans.

If they were actually shunned or disliked by the metal community as a whole, there are host of things that wouldn't be happening. They wouldn't be doing songs with Dragonforce, doing concerts at metal festivals, having articles written about them on places like Metal Hammer, & posing for pictures with bands like Anthrax & Judas Priest.
 

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I quite like their Karate song, but thats about it. Their other songs aren't really heavy enough.

They're too manufactured though, hadn't the three girls never even heard a single metal song until they just randomly decided to fuse J-pop and Metal? Just too obvious that a label took 3 Japanese girls and gave them some guitar players.
 

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Now, why is that exactly? If my internet forum experience has taught me anything, I doubt them getting blacklisted there has much at all to do with their actual music, and more to do with mods & over the top fans.

If they were actually shunned or disliked by the metal community as a whole, there are host of things that wouldn't be happening. They wouldn't be doing songs with Dragonforce, doing concerts at metal festivals, having articles written about them on places like Metal Hammer, & posing for pictures with bands like Anthrax & Judas Priest.
It actually does have to do with their music. Metal-archives is also a encyclopedia and doesn't list Babymetal as a metal band, Shreddit uses metal-archives as a source for what is/isn't metal, so whatever doesn't show up there isn't allowed to be posted. Their fanbase has a bad rep for being quite sensitive over people not considering the band to be metal or for taking the band too seriously but that isn't the reason they're not allowed to be posted.

And I didn't mean to generalize. Obviously there is some appeal, not everyone hates them outright and they're not banned everywhere, etc. They're just not a very popular band in any of those places and their reception is... Mixed, to put it lightly.
 

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I quite like their Karate song, but thats about it. Their other songs aren't really heavy enough.

They're too manufactured though, hadn't the three girls never even heard a single metal song until they just randomly decided to fuse J-pop and Metal? Just too obvious that a label took 3 Japanese girls and gave them some guitar players.
Their new album is much heavier than the first one. It makes sense tbh. They are older, and actually have years of experience in the metal scene now, compared to the first.

It actually does have to do with their music. Metal-archives is also a encyclopedia and doesn't list Babymetal as a metal band, Shreddit uses metal-archives as a source for what is/isn't metal, so whatever doesn't show up there isn't allowed to be posted. Their fanbase has a bad rep for being quite sensitive over people not considering the band to be metal or for taking the band too seriously but that isn't the reason they're not allowed to be posted.

And I didn't mean to generalize. Obviously there is some appeal, not everyone hates them outright and they're not banned everywhere, etc. They're just not a very popular band in any of those places and their reception is... Mixed, to put it lightly.
It's kind of silly for them to not be considered metal by those archives. They are considered metal pretty much everywhere else. Hopefully they change that soon.

Honestly, I mentioned it above, but their new album is much more metal than the first. Definitely less pop this time around in comparison. I think there's a good chance you'd like their new album if you give it a chance.

As far as music goes, hating on anyone for liking or disliking a band is stupid. Everyone likes different music.
 

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I wouldn't say that I like BABYMETAL. I fucking love BABYMETAL. They're something new, something that I thought I would never see. And yes, they may still be an idol group, not a real metal band, but that doesn't mean that they can't make good music. For example, just listen to "Akatsuki". It is a great song. I mean, like, really good. No pop hooks, no cheapness, no fuckery, just pure awesomeness. And their live performances are great. All the theatrics are exciting to watch and Su-Metal's vocals are amazing.

The amazing live video has been removed from Youtube, so here's a different one. Still, the song rocks.


Seriously, just listen to her voice :banderas
 
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