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https://twitter.com/WWEAsuka/status/867512342120148993


Congratulations, not that it means much considering the fact she's the reason why the women's division has been on the decline since her title victory. Its still a pretty cool feat considering if you sit on it, and to think WWE would give this honor to her, a woman nevertheless (sorry, it had to be stated), is impressive. Shows how far they've come when it comes to presenting their female performers.
 

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The greatest diva WWE will ever see. She deserves that. Goldberg is boring anyway.
 

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Wanna really denying what I'm saying? I want reasons as to why she isn't killing the division, something that doesn't sound like "she's da best heel ever! :mark: " when everyone hated her ass just a couple of weeks ago :mj4
The division has been in shambles ever since Bayley left. With or without Asuka's undefeated streak, it'd be that way.

If you seriously think we've gone back to Diva's era just because we aren't getting 4 star matches every Takeover then that's just some delusional shit. They're still better off than the main roster divisions are right now.
 

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Except she hasn't

27.05.2016 Lana & Nia Jax defeat Asuka & Daria Berenato
27.02.2016 NXT Women's Title Fatal Four Way: Bayley (c) defeats Alexa Bliss and Asuka and Emma
07.01.2016 WWE NXT Women's Title #1 Contendership Battle Royal: Carmella defeats Alexa Bliss and Aliyah and Asuka and Billie Kay and Cameron and Deonna Purrazzo and Emma and Eva Marie and Liv Morgan and Peyton Royce
 

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https://twitter.com/WWEAsuka/status/867512342120148993


Congratulations, not that it means much considering the fact she's the reason why the women's division has been on the decline since her title victory. Its still a pretty cool feat considering if you sit on it, and to think WWE would give this honor to her, a woman nevertheless (sorry, it had to be stated), is impressive. Shows how far they've come when it comes to presenting their female performers.
The question in all this is: Should being undefeated in NXT be considered the same as being undefeated on the main roster? It's like having an undefeated streak in AAA being counted as the same as the Major Leagues. She hasn't gone up against Charlotte and Co, yet. So I can't consider it as being on par with Goldberg's.
 

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If you seriously think we've gone back to Diva's era just because we aren't getting 4 star matches every Takeover then that's just some delusional shit. They're still better off than the main roster divisions are right now.
Alright, stop this 4 star bullshit right now. Literally nobody is asking for them to put a great match everytime there's a TakeOver around the corner, but is it too much if we, I, ask for some logic and actual effort put into the storylines and execution of the matches? Really if someone watches one of her matches, they've seen them all. It's the same recycled crap over and over again. She isn't helping the division to grow by keeping the title hostage and half assing things like this.

The division has been in shambles ever since Bayley left. With or without Asuka's undefeated streak, it'd be that way.
Here's another lie. When Bayley was champ, there was a nice group ready to step up after Sasha, Becky and Charlotte left. Names like Carmella, Alexa, Peyton, Billie, Liv Morgan, Nia and so on... they were all there to climb the ladder and improve...that's until Asuka came and squashed everyone. Now of that group most of them got a call up and are doing better things on RAW/SD than in NXT, while Peyton and Billie aren't allowed to show what they're capable of because putting the spotlight on Asuka is their top priority, not to mention that the group has been replaced with some average names like Nikki Cross, Ruby Riot and Ember Moon.

Now I have the feeling that even if Asuka loses the title, the same goddamn cycle will happen again with whoever becomes the new champ. NXT just doesn't develop talent anymore and are simply wasting their resources and time to make good entrances and productions, completely not giving a fuck about giving chances to the talent that has proved to get one by improving their character which is also severely lacking on just about everyone and in ring work.
 

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Except she hasn't

27.05.2016 Lana & Nia Jax defeat Asuka & Daria Berenato
27.02.2016 NXT Women's Title Fatal Four Way: Bayley (c) defeats Alexa Bliss and Asuka and Emma
07.01.2016 WWE NXT Women's Title #1 Contendership Battle Royal: Carmella defeats Alexa Bliss and Aliyah and Asuka and Billie Kay and Cameron and Deonna Purrazzo and Emma and Eva Marie and Liv Morgan and Peyton Royce
I believe it's single competition. Not to sure but would make sense.
 

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It would have been better if it was given to a guy who could have potentially drawn at a higher rate, but congrats on her.
 

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Worse.

She, with the help of the incompetent booking team, has killed the women's division in NXT, to the point of almost going back to the Divas division level of interest as far as storylines and quality of the matches go imo.
Ya can't say I disagree that her streak has pretty much killed NXT women's division.

They had to bring in Mickie to give Asuka a match at Takeover because the roster got pillaged because they had went all-in on Asuka and never cared to build someone else up. Then they start to build Peyton/Billie and Nikki up and what happens? Asuka beat them in fatal 4 which kind of killed the Peyton/Billie "Iconic Duo" hype from the standpoint of they are a duo and not once in the fatal 4 way did they attempt to pin each other to steal the title. Nope Asuka overcame those odds in quick fashion.

Then there was another slap in the face of the division when she literally pinned both Ruby and Nikki. So basically at the past 3 TakeOvers she has went over pretty much the entire active on-screen women's roster Ember, Peyton/Billie, Nikki and Ruby
 

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Alright, stop this 4 star bullshit right now. Literally nobody is asking for them to put a great match everytime there's a TakeOver around the corner, but is it too much if we, I, ask for some logic and actual effort put into the storylines and execution of the matches? Really if someone watches one of her matches, they've seen them all. It's the same recycled crap over and over again. She isn't helping the division to grow by keeping the title hostage and half assing things like this.
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They can't do good storylines with Asuka because she can hardly speak English. It's why Nikki and Peyton/Billie were in a fatal 4 way with her and why Ruby and Nikki were in a triple threat. NXT tried to lean on those girls to do the build for the match where all Asuka did was do run-ins and beat them down and then show up at TakeOver and beat them

Also anyone saying NXT women are putting on better matches than the main roster, decent amount of people said they thought Bayley/Alexa at Payback was better than Asuka/Ruby/Nikki. Asuka sleepwalked through that match. Was lazy on a couple of spots and botched the finish and left Ruby and the ref looking like idiots.
 

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They can't do good storylines with Asuka because she can hardly speak English. It's why Nikki and Peyton/Billie were in a fatal 4 way with her and why Ruby and Nikki were in a triple threat. NXT tried to lean on those girls to do the build for the match where all Asuka did was do run-ins and beat them down and then show up at TakeOver and beat them

Also anyone saying NXT women are putting on better matches than the main roster, decent amount of people said they thought Bayley/Alexa at Payback was better than Asuka/Ruby/Nikki. Asuka sleepwalked through that match. Was lazy on a couple of spots and botched the finish and left Ruby and the ref looking like idiots.
Laughable to think you can't do a good storyline without loads of promos. Zayn and Owens had a classic, long term storyline in ROH when Zayn was El Generico, whose character only spoke a couple of words of broken Spanish and nothing else. Now Owens is a super promo, but still, that's only one of the two people in the story speaking.

Also, Ruby and Cross were not in that match because of Asuka not speaking much English, they were in the match because it's part of the long term storyline with Ember Moon. Ember is the one who can beat Asuka, so Asuka first cheated to win in their first match, and then the second match she'd only beat the other opponents and not Ember (before Ember was legit injured and taken out of the match), and presumably she'd lose to Ember in their second one on one match.
 
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