[StuHockey]

Hey guys,

Over the past few months there have been several shifts of power in both the WWE and TNA. Over the past few months CM Punk and Daniel Bryan have been feuding over the WWE Championship, Austin Aries has won the TNA World Heavyweight Championship, AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels are involved in a major storyline on TV, Samoa Joe is the current leader of the Bound For Glory Series, and we've seen the likes of Claudio Castagnoli, Chris Hero, Pac and Sarah Del Rey sign with the WWE.

With this major shift from bodybuilder types to wrestlers from the independent scene now holding up main event places on both rosters, do you believe we have now shifted into an era where wrestlers with an independent background are now considered the top guys?

 

[WWCturbo]

Indy Era or not I gotta say there are too few main event material wrestlers right now...

 

[GetStokedOnIt]

It's not particularly the 'indy era', it's just workers with genuine talent rising to the top.

 

[joeisgonnakillyou]

We are in the indy era since the 90's.
Guys like Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, Cactus Jack and Steve Austin were making shoots at the "big leagues" way before ROH made it cool.

 

[APEX]

Nope, lets face it as soon as another couple of Triple H's / Brock Lesnar's / Randy Orton's walk into the company the likes of Bryan would be straight back down to mid card.

It just so happens that Bryan / Punk and Co, are the best we have at the minute.

 

[ratedR3:16]

apparently we were in the reality era a few months back then i have heard the age of darkness and the indy era, were still in the pg era deal with it

 

[Punkhead]

We will be in the Indy Era, when WWE signs Sami Callihan, Kevin Steen, El Generico, Johnny Gargano, Jimmy Jacobs and Super Smash Bros.

 

[Tnmore]

LOL Indy era. Punk has been WWE superstar for the past 6 years.

 

[kennedy=god]

Nah, the WWE will always be defined by the top face. It's the "Cena era", at least that's what i will call it once it's over.

 

[Combat Analyst]

What indy era? Majority of WWE wrestlers aren't from the Indies.

 

[sXeCalli]

What indy era? Majority of WWE wrestlers aren't from the Indies.

Not really true, at least half or more have been on the indies before WWE. And even MAJOR indy stars like CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, they make up quite a large part of the talent pool.

But calling them indy workers now or the "indy era" is redundant.

 

[JoseDRiveraTCR7]

Nope, lets face it as soon as another couple of Triple H's / Brock Lesnar's / Randy Orton's walk into the company the likes of Bryan would be straight back down to mid card.

It just so happens that Bryan / Punk and Co, are the best we have at the minute.

I doubt that's happening anytime soon. The developmental system is so broken that it will take a while for them to create someone like a HHH, Lesnar, or Orton. The fact is most of the talent that has been produced by their developmental system in the past few years have not been good. A lot of them are really green, and though I know ring work isn't as important as charisma or mic skills, a lot of these are not even fucking passable in the ring. The indies may not produce traditional American mainstream wrestlers, but most of those guys are more entertaining than the guys being produced by the WWE.

 

[Rachel Deserved It]

Pac signed?

 

[oompa_loompa]

Yes we are.

And that's why ratings have been going down real hard in the past year.

People like Punk and Bryan who are just as tough as the guy who delivered your pizza last night.

 

[Ignoramus]

Yes we are.

And that's why ratings have been going down real hard in the past year.

People like Punk and Bryan who are just as tough as the guy who delivered your pizza last night.

Yet are more than capable of having 80 minute long 5 star matches, something guys like Cena, Sheamus and that stupid hack Miz will never even dream of being able to pull off. Deal with it, the WWE trained wrestlers are considered the fucking poisoned, puke end of the wrestling gene pool.

 

[oompa_loompa]

Yet are more than capable of having 80 minute long 5 star matches, something guys like Cena, Sheamus and that stupid hack Miz will never even dream of being able to pull off. Deal with it, the WWE trained wrestlers are considered the fucking poisoned, puke end of the wrestling gene pool.

Cena carried Punk's botching ass to the greatest match of his life at the MITB last year and IS a better wrestler than him. Deal with it.

Plus guys who are more about their presentation than their wrestling skills had ALWAYS been the stars of the show and the people who got most fans to watch wrestling in the first place. Where do you think wrestling would be now if it wasn't for guys like Hogan, Stone Cold and The Rock?

 

[The Livid One]

We've been in the indy era ever since the fall of the territories. Most of the talent from that time on came either from the Japan or the indies. Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, Steve Austin, Ted DiBiase, Vader, the Road Warriors, Bret Hart, Kane, Scott Steiner, Mick Foley - all puro and indy guys.

 

[Clique]

I think the business is in a state where a lot of talent comes from the independent wrestling scene as opposed to back in the day when talent would come from wrestling territories across the country.


EDIT - Basically what others have already stated.

 

[Punkhead]

Nah, the WWE will always be defined by the top face. It's the "Cena era", at least that's what i will call it once it's over.

Not the top face, but the top wrestler. Look at Austin. He was face of WWF as a heel.

 

[Punkhead]

Pac signed?

Yes. They signed PAC last month.