[humanracer25]

Mostly from WWE but a few from WCW. Give me your thoughts/booking ideas.

1.Austin did not get injured at Summerslam 97
Would he have been world champion sooner? Would he have lasted beyond 2002 and be even more popular than the Rock. Perhaps even top face for as long as Hogan. I remember he was scheduled to face Bret Hart in England during the USA vs Canada feud. That would have been interested to see if the crowd actually cheered Austin instead of Hart. Instead on that PPV Hart faced Undertaker and was given a mixed reaction.

2.Bret Hart stays with WWE in 1997.
The USA vs Canada feud seemed to finish nicely (though also controversially) at Survivor Series 1997. Would it have dragged on had Hart stayed? Would he have faced Austin at WM 14? Would he have remained heel and joined Vince? Would Vince have even turned heel if it was not for the screw job?

3.Owen Hart does not die
A sensitive one I know. Would he have became champion like Benoit was destined to become?

4.Triple H was not injured in 2001
Some suggest he may have turned face anyway and feuded with Austin


and WCw
1.The "fingerpoke of doom" did not happen
I think Wolfpac would have turned heel anyway with NWO Hollywood going face

2.Hogan agrees to put Bret Hart over
Unlikely but if he did then it should have happened when Hogan returned as a face.

 

[dave 1981]

Mostly from WWE but a few from WCW. Give me your thoughts/booking ideas.

1.Austin did not get injured at Summerslam 97
Would he have been world champion sooner? Would he have lasted beyond 2002 and be even more popular than the Rock. Perhaps even top face for as long as Hogan. I remember he was scheduled to face Bret Hart in England during the USA vs Canada feud. That would have been interested to see if the crowd actually cheered Austin instead of Hart. Instead on that PPV Hart faced Undertaker and was given a mixed reaction.

2.Bret Hart stays with WWE in 1997.
The USA vs Canada feud seemed to finish nicely (though also controversially) at Survivor Series 1997. Would it have dragged on had Hart stayed? Would he have faced Austin at WM 14? Would he have remained heel and joined Vince? Would Vince have even turned heel if it was not for the screw job?

3.Owen Hart does not die
A sensitive one I know. Would he have became champion like Benoit was destined to become?

4.Triple H was not injured in 2001
Some suggest he may have turned face anyway and feuded with Austin


and WCw
1.The "fingerpoke of doom" did not happen
I think Wolfpac would have turned heel anyway with NWO Hollywood going face

2.Hogan agrees to put Bret Hart over
Unlikely but if he did then it should have happened when Hogan returned as a face.

1. Depends on who you believe as it has always appeared because of the way Vince McMahon wanted to go with the product Austin/Michaels was always the plan for WrestleMania 14 as they were the two The Attitude Era was going to be built around, i don't think Stone Cold Steve Austin was winning before WrestleMania 14 as it wouldn't have been as special. If you believe Bret Hart he says the plan prior to the last 30 days of his contract was to have Michaels/Hart for the WWE title at WrestleMania 14 in the blow off match which he said he had no problem in losing to Shawn Michaels.

2. Bret Hart said he was going to turn face and was worried about how WWE would go about it after bashing the American fans for so long. With Shawn Michaels as top heel and The Rock and Triple H coming through as well as Mankind and Kane it would have made sense as well seeing as there was only Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Undertaker as main event faces.

3. With Owen Hart i don't know as the fact he was pushed as a comedy mid card face prior to his death suggests mid card status for life in WWE but then he was rumoured to have The Game character that Triple H had so no one can say.

4. Some say Triple H would have turned face and faced Stone Cold Steve Austin at WrestleMania 18 but i have always seen it as Triple H in the role Chris Jericho had during The Invasion storyline in which he would have gone against The Rock yet he would have also been the first Undisputed champion. Stone Cold Steve Austin as a heel simply didn't work and WWE saw that so Austin/Triple H probably still happens at WrestleMania 18 but with Stone Cold Steve Austin as face and Triple H as heel.

In WCW,

1. The Fingerpoke Of Doom was meant to be the starting point of WCW doing the exact same storyline they did to build up Sting/Hogan but this time with Goldberg/Hogan and WCW were said to have had at least six months worth of storylines in place but some how which off the top of my head i can't remember Goldberg was said to have messed it all up but how true that is i don't know.

2. The only time that Hulk Hogan could have put Bret Hart over was in 1998 but WCW wasted Bret Hart as they did nothing with him upon his arrival for a few months and then wasted him in a pointless feud with Ric Flair. They then went and did the whole Wolfpac/Hollywood feud and then were lost further in what to do with Bret Hart why they attempted to build Nash/Hogan up which then never even happened. The best thing they ever did with Bret Hart was the Sting/Hart feud but they had no idea how to use Bret Hart when he was white hot on the back of Survivor Series.

 

[humanracer25]

Well thought out reply, thank you

 

[the modern myth]

The only time that Hulk Hogan could have put Bret Hart over was in 1998 but WCW wasted Bret Hart as they did nothing with him upon his arrival for a few months and then wasted him in a pointless feud with Ric Flair. They then went and did the whole Wolfpac/Hollywood feud and then were lost further in what to do with Bret Hart why they attempted to build Nash/Hogan up which then never even happened. The best thing they ever did with Bret Hart was the Sting/Hart feud but they had no idea how to use Bret Hart when he was white hot on the back of Survivor Series.

A Bret Hart / Hulk Hogan feud in 1993 could have been good. I'd like to have seen Bret Hart / Hulk Hogan at Summerslam 1993 - with Hart taking the title off of Hulkster in retribution for that Wrestlemania IX bullshit!

 

[-Halo-]

Let me see if there are any crystal balls that work for this.

 

[19NightLong]

Mostly from WWE but a few from WCW. Give me your thoughts/booking ideas.

1.Austin did not get injured at Summerslam 97
Would he have been world champion sooner? Would he have lasted beyond 2002 and be even more popular than the Rock. Perhaps even top face for as long as Hogan. I remember he was scheduled to face Bret Hart in England during the USA vs Canada feud. That would have been interested to see if the crowd actually cheered Austin instead of Hart. Instead on that PPV Hart faced Undertaker and was given a mixed reaction.

2.Bret Hart stays with WWE in 1997.
The USA vs Canada feud seemed to finish nicely (though also controversially) at Survivor Series 1997. Would it have dragged on had Hart stayed? Would he have faced Austin at WM 14? Would he have remained heel and joined Vince? Would Vince have even turned heel if it was not for the screw job?

3.Owen Hart does not die
A sensitive one I know. Would he have became champion like Benoit was destined to become?

4.Triple H was not injured in 2001
Some suggest he may have turned face anyway and feuded with Austin


and WCw
1.The "fingerpoke of doom" did not happen
I think Wolfpac would have turned heel anyway with NWO Hollywood going face

2.Hogan agrees to put Bret Hart over
Unlikely but if he did then it should have happened when Hogan returned as a face.

1. Austin would probably be retired anyways by late 2000s or still be wrestling had not for that neck injury. But with the PG crap, no way he was going to make it. I don't like the DX version of 2006-2010 either due to being PG and not to mention it was watered down for kids. They also even had kids and during the Attitude Era, they don't have that. DX was mostly teenaged frat boys who caused a lot of trouble in the WWF/E and defined authority but not as much as Austin. BTW, Undertaker was booked to defend his WWF/E title against Bret Hart and Austin didn't have a neck injury at that point until the Summmerslam PPV event.

2. It's no secret that Bret Hart didn't like the direction that the WWF/E was going at that time because Bret already experienced all the stuff that Vince McMahon put out before his departure in late 1997. The reality-based, unpredictable, clad exposed women from one the things you see in porn movies, male/female sexuality to draw in horny teens, off-color adult humor from Trash TVs, and extreme violent programming was mostly all the things the almost bankrupt WWF/E needed to compete with the already richer and popular WCW who was killing Vince McMahon's company in ratings and buyrates for all of 1996 to half of 1998.

If Bret stayed in the WWF/E, that means Vince McMahon would had to put up with Bret Hart with all the "Attitude Era" storylines that he drew up and dictates how Vince should run because Bret wanted the WWF to soften up it's adult-oriented product. In October 1997, Bret Hart was willing to take less paycut if Vince had any future plans for him. Originally, Bret was supposed to keep the WWF title in two more PPVs of 1997, lose the title to HBK at Royal Rumble 1998, then win it back at No Way out 1998, then drop the belt to Austin in Wrestlemania 14. Then Vince planned on making him a mid-carder for the rest of his career along with HBK. Apparently, it didn't happen because the WWF/E was suffering through a lot of financial problems thanks to WCW and Bret Hart didn't like being out of the main event spotlight so he, encouraged by Vince, decided to sign with WCW who was offering him more money. HBK was out of the WWF(now WWE) spotlight for four years due to back injury in 1998.

The "Mr. McMahon" character would probably still be created but it will not mean as much if it weren't for the Montreal Screwjob. It was that night that his character was born when Vince double crossed Bret out of his WWF championship for reals and it got the fans to legitimately hate him. Because of it, it made Vince created the "Mr. McMahon" character the ultimate evil owner of the WWF/E because of the heat he received from the Montreal Screwjob and was the driving force of winning the Monday Night Wars.

3. Owen Hart actually was close to retiring by the end of 1999 to spend time with his family when his contract was up so chances are he will not be one and planned on being a gym teacher. Owen was offered a WWF/E champion push a chance but turn it down because it would require him to be on the road even more.

4. Triple H would probably be a member of the WWF team against the Alliance so he was being face like the others in the process and feuded with Austin as well. That we may never know.

WcW

1. WCW would still be exploded anyways with or without the FPOD but this one hurts WCW in the process more. It was a badly runned company with poor management since it's launch of WCW Monday Nitro in 1995. The nWo angle was good in 1996 which blew the WWF away but it got stale and boring withing two years that it drove WCW fans away and tuned into the WWF which had it's new "WWF Attitude" concept that launched the company into prominence again. WCW never again had it's mature feeling because their parent company Time Warner ordered WCW to be a family-friendly show similar to the Hogan Era of the 1980s whereby the WWF allowed a lot of inappropriate stuff to be put on national TV. Also the writers in WCW was mostly bad.

2. Hogan would never put over Bret or any other stars in the matter. WCW had 0 idea what to do with Bret Hart so they put him in pointless feuds while the stale nWo was the main focus of WCW. That i can't answer since i never watched a single WCW show in my life(I was a WWF fanboy back then lol).