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Re: **All Smackdown TV Ratings, Buys, Draw Talk Here** - THE BLUE BRAND RATINGS WAR

7/19 Smackdown/Draft TV Rating pops to nearly match Raw

By James Caldwell, PWTorch assistant editor

The Live Smackdown premiere/one-time WWE Draft event led to a huge surge in Smackdown’s TV audience Tuesday night on USA Network, almost beating Raw the previous night.

WWE Smackdown TV Ratings Tracking

July 19: The Tuesday night premiere scored a 2.20 TV rating, setting a high-mark for Smackdown entering a new era.

Smackdown nearly topped Raw the night before, which drew a 2.22 rating leading into the Live Smackdown/Draft special.

Previously on Thursday nights, Smackdown was ranging in the 1.5-1.6 ratings, representing a 40 percent jump for the Live premiere.

– Smackdown Live drew 3.190 million viewers, more than 1.0 million more than what last Thursday’s show drew.

Monday’s Raw drew 3.204 million viewers, just edging out Smackdown.

– DEMOGRAPHICS: Smackdown jumped off the page with Tuesday night’s ratings compared to the last Thursday episode.

Adults 18-49 jumped 111 percent to a 1.18 rating
Males 18-34 jumped 198 percent to a 1.49 rating after drawing a 0.50 rating last Thursday; a gain of nearly one full TV rating point
Males 18-49 jumped 154 percent to a 1.50 rating
– Historically, the last time Smackdown topped a 2.0 TV rating was a year-and-a-half ago for a Live Smackdown on January 29, 2015 when Smackdown moved to Thursday nights on Syfy.

The last time Smackdown topped a 2.2 rating was a live Smackdown on USA Network on December 18, 2012 during the “WWE Week” run on USA.

Caldwell’s Analysis: This was certainly a one-time pop with the Draft and Live Smackdown premiere on the same night, but it gives Smackdown some momentum going forward. It’s unlikely the show hits a 2.2 next week, but if Smackdown can stay above a 2.0 most weeks, WWE and USA Network will be pleased.


http://www.pwtorch.com/site/2016/07/20/719-wwe-smackdowndraft-tv-rating-pops-nearly-match-raw/
 

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Tuesday's generally a weaker night for television, plus it's a two-hour show, so it's much easier to sit through.

Honestly, though, when football, basketball and hockey start up I think they'll dip to the mid-2 millions. I think they'll sustain around 2.9m through the summer, though.
Smackdown's average in the Summer will not be beyond 2.5 million. No fucking way the way this disaster is booked.
And 2.5 will be Raw's number this fall.
 

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For a show that the actual draft took place on, AND had Raw guys (the entire WWE roster) on it, that is a ghastly number. No competition, no 3rd hour to drag them down. Scary bad number.
And no one SD's roster is a draw, either..

Last night's show, with the Draft, compared to a normal Raw, the previous night only drew 40,000 (3.17 vs. 3.13 million) more viewers than a regular, non-Draft Raw. And this was a SD with the entire roster on it. A show without a 3rd hour to drag it down. No competition, either.

Horrible and very scary for WWE.
:lol Chill with the hyperbole. This is a fantastic number for SD/Draft. What, did you think they were magically going to pull an extra 3 million viewers out of thin air? Talk about unrealistic expectations. This show was never going to sniff 4 million. Not even close. This is the furthest thing from a 'ghastly, horrible and scary' number lol. It's right about what the show should have done given the current climate.
 

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Oh, boy. I see battle lines already being drawn.



"My guy is on RAW and we're going to beat you.."

"My guy is on SD and we're gonna win.."


:lol The bickering over who draws more should be more entertaining than the actual shows. I'm hoping SD wins more often only for giggles.
Brand mark wars. :mark:
 

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:lol Chill with the hyperbole. This is a fantastic number for SD/Draft. What, did you think they were magically going to pull an extra 3 million viewers out of thin air? Talk about unrealistic expectations. This show was never going to sniff 4 million. Not even close. This is the furthest thing from a 'ghastly, horrible and scary' number lol. It's right about what the show should have done given the current climate.
I would agree if this was a regular edition of SD. But for the one where the Draft was held? Getting the standard Raw number for the past year, without a 3rd hour to drag it down? I guess I should've had lower expectations for the actual draft itself.
 

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Are going to get a feature which allow us to show our brand colors? :smile2:
Make sure you include yellow.

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I would agree if this was a regular edition of SD. But for the one where the Draft was held? Getting the standard Raw number for the past year, without a 3rd hour to drag it down? I guess I should've had lower expectations for the actual draft itself.
So what if it got standard Raw numbers? Raw has been on the same night at the same time for over 20 years. It IS the flagship as much as WWE harps on about it. I really don't know what the hell you were expecting this show to do if you think this is bad. Raw hasn't had 4 million viewers in years. What the hell makes you think they're all going to come out of the woodwork to watch a show they never watched before, on a new night they probably don't about just because it's the draft?
 

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Are going to get a feature which allow us to show our brand colors? :smile2:
Nah, don't think we need something like that. Just put what brand you prefer in your sig or something.
 

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So, Raw actually got the slightly higher rating; with SD having the actual draft AND no 3rd hour to drag them down. :lol

Come on. That is odd. The increase, due to SD's death these past few years is nice, but the actual numbers on their own aren't any good. Can't even beat a 3 hour Raw? And yes, Raw's number was bad, too.

Make sure you include yellow.

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So what if it got standard Raw numbers? Raw has been on the same night at the same time for over 20 years. It IS the flagship as much as WWE harps on about it. I really don't know what the hell you were expecting this show to do if you think this is bad. Raw hasn't had 4 million viewers in years. What the hell makes you think they're all going to come out of the woodwork to watch a show they never watched before, on a new night they probably don't about just because it's the draft?
Just because it's the draft? Huh? It's...the draft. It's absolutely the biggest thing WWE has done in quite a few years, actually. What in the actual... :lol
 

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Just because it's the draft? Huh? It's...the draft. It's absolutely the biggest thing WWE has done in quite a few years, actually. What in the actual... :lol
It's the biggest thing WWE has done in years to the people who are still watching. What don't you understand about that? The erosion of viewers over the past 2 years specifically is proof positive that people have tuned out. You really think that just because WWE held a draft that 3 million of them are going to come back? WWE hyped this draft for about a week. Up until this weekend nobody even knew the rules. They barely mentioned it on TV. You're acting like this is some big huge thing when in reality it's just another fumbled ball to add to the long list of others that have contributed to people slowly but surely tuning out. Expecting some magical number purely because of the draft is honestly a bit stupid. No offense but you have to be some sort of naive to believe it was going to pull in an extra 2 million people. It basically pulled in the Raw audience who don't usually watch SD because those people are all that's left.
 

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It's the biggest thing WWE has done in years to the people who are still watching. What don't you understand about that? The erosion of viewers over the past 2 years specifically is proof positive that people have tuned out. You really think that just because WWE held a draft that 3 million of them are going to come back? WWE hyped this draft for about a week. Up until this weekend nobody even knew the rules. They barely mentioned it on TV. You're acting like this is some big huge thing when in reality it's just another fumbled ball to add to the long list of others that have contributed to people slowly but surely tuning out. Expecting some magical number purely because of the draft is honestly a bit stupid. No offense but you have to be some sort of naive to believe it was going to pull in an extra 2 million people. It basically pulled in the Raw audience who don't usually watch SD because those people are all that's left.
No, it is the biggest thing WWE has done for anyone and everyone. They are doing this brand split in hopes of bringing at least some of the old audience back. This was a nice increase from what SD has been recently, but if this is the absolute ceiling of SD, even with the actual draft on it, than yeah, that is pretty disappointing overall.

And no offense, but everytime you have a disagreement with someone you always somehow belittle their intelligence or make statements like "I have no idea what you are saying." or just flatout call them stupid. That says alot, tbh. Feel free to not respond. I promise I will be able to move on.
 

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No, it is the biggest thing WWE has done for anyone and everyone. They are doing this brand split in hopes of bringing at least some of the old audience back. This was a nice increase from what SD has been recently, but if this is the absolute ceiling of SD, even with the actual draft on it, than yeah, that is pretty disappointing overall.

And no offense, but everytime you have a disagreement with someone you always somehow belittle their intelligence or make statements like "I have no idea what you are saying." or just flatout call them stupid. That says alot, tbh. Feel free to not respond. I promise I will be able to move on.
Lol, what? You just said yourself that they are doing the brand split in hopes of bringing people back. That isn't going to happen in one night. You know that Raw ratings are tanking and you know that there are no draws on this roster yet you somehow expect Smackdown to pop some incredible number drafting a roster that doesn't draw? I have asked you about 3 times now to say what type of rating/viewership you were expecting this show to get and so far all you've done is talk in circles and make baseless statements like the bolded.

Why would I take offense to other people not being able to articulate their points and/or saying stupid things? Feel free to not respond? Lol why wouldn't I respond? We're all adults here and we're having a discussion. If you want to end it then end it. There's no need to get on your soapbox and make an announcement.
 

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Lol, what? You just said yourself that they are doing the brand split in hopes of bringing people back. That isn't going to happen in one night. You know that Raw ratings are tanking and you know that there are no draws on this roster yet you somehow expect Smackdown to pop some incredible number drafting a roster that doesn't draw? I have asked you about 3 times now to say what type of rating/viewership you were expecting this show to get and so far all you've done is talk in circles and make baseless statements like the bolded.

Why would I take offense to other people not being able to articulate their points and/or saying stupid things? Feel free to not respond? Lol why wouldn't I respond? We're all adults here and we're having a discussion. If you want to end it then end it. There's no need to get on your soapbox and make an announcement.
I literally feel like I am talking to myself here. I was expecting a viewership in the mid 3 millions. Considering the draft took place last night and it had been announced in advance, I don't think that was really expecting much, especially without a third hour to drag down the viewership. But maybe my expectations were too high for even that..

I've articulated my points just fine, just like everytime we interact. It's not my fault you're not taking them in. You're the one who got on your soapbox by taking the first shot and kinda/sorta calling me stupid. :shrug If you're going to say something like that, expect a response. Simple as that.
 

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^^^ When MNF hits, Raw is dead. I won't be surprised in the slightest to see SD beat Raw from Sept through December.

I literally feel like I am talking to myself here. I was expecting a viewership in the mid 3 millions. Considering the draft took place last night and it had been announced in advance, I don't think that was really expecting much, especially without a third hour to drag down the viewership. But maybe my expectations were too high for even that..

I've articulated my points just fine, just like everytime we interact. It's not my fault you're not taking them in. You're the one who got on your soapbox by taking the first shot and kinda/sorta calling me stupid. :shrug If you're going to say something like that, expect a response. Simple as that.
There we go! So you were thinking mid 3 million and it actually got 3.1 million. I guess I can see why you would think that's a huge disappointment. If only you actually said that instead of making OH MY GOD SCARY HORRIBLE GHASTLY RATINGS posts for 3 pages.

I see your point... now that you have quantified it. The way you were talking earlier I was expecting you to hit me with 7 million people to tune in for the draft. And yeah, I do think it's a bit stupid and naive to expect some insane number out of nowhere. That's why I said it. At least now I know you were mostly trolling more than anything else. That makes a difference. You make solid points but you really need to calm down with the hyperbole on certain things. You expected 3.5, the result was 3.1 and you were acting like the sky was falling. Just chill out a bit.

Besides, Smackdown isn't touching this type of number again probably until Wrestlemania season next year so technically you're right I suppose.

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TBF this show was hyped up for weeks with the possibilities of surprises/debuts/returns. That's not a "great" number.
 

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^^^ When MNF hits, Raw is dead. I won't be surprised in the slightest to see SD beat Raw from Sept through December.



There we go! So you were thinking mid 3 million and it actually got 3.1 million. I guess I can see why you would think that's a huge disappointment. If only you actually said that instead of making OH MY GOD SCARY HORRIBLE GHASTLY RATINGS posts for 3 pages.

I see your point... now that you have quantified it. The way you were talking earlier I was expecting you to hit me with 7 million people to tune in for the draft. And yeah, I do think it's a bit stupid and naive to expect some insane number out of nowhere. That's why I said it. At least now I know you were mostly trolling more than anything else. That makes a difference. You make solid points but you really need to calm down with the hyperbole on certain things. You expected 3.5, the result was 3.1 and you were acting like the sky was falling. Just chill out a bit.

Besides, Smackdown isn't touching this type of number again probably until Wrestlemania season next year so technically you're right I suppose.

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SD has no excuse not to be beating Raw when Football starts, I agree with that. Between NFL games and having that 3rd hour, there is no reason for SD to not be beating Raw from September to December. THAT would be a major disappointment for SD if they aren't, at least, IMO. Just because the NFL is a monster, as we all know.

I don't know, when the first draft in a decade starts, I absolutely expected more than 3 million viewers (3.1, whatever). Maybe I'm a 'fool' for that. Maybe I had that line of thinking because a brand split, IMO, is pretty much the very last thing Vince has up his sleeve to improve the ratings and product, and if this doesn't work, I don't see what else he can possibly do, you know? :shrug Outside, of course, of just doing things the right way and having better writers write quality stories with the right performers in the correct alignment, of course. This brand split is Vince's last gasp for air, unless when it does fail, he actually decides to do the right thing. Maybe that's why I was surprised by the number. I don't know. Anyway, have a good one.
 

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Smackdown being up a million viewers is a good thing. Not a great thing, because their television audience is at one of the lowest points it's ever been, but it's "good."

Still, I don't see how the numbers go up or they get new viewers back in the foreseeable future. Rollins and Reigns can't feud with each other forever, Owens needs some work to be considered a main eventer, Cena's not a huge difference maker anymore, Brock's hardly around and is feuding with a Smackdown guy, Dean's damaged goods, etc. These guys are all split in half now, so their options for opponents are limited.

Let's see how different Raw and Smackdown really wind up being, and if any of those differences actually wind up being attractions to people.
 

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Having super high expectations for Smackdown's viewership numbers was setting yourself up for disappointment in the first place. Sure, it's the draft, but as indicated by Raw's viewership, WWE's "base viewership" (aka, hardcore and loyal fans) are in the 3m range. That's the number Smackdown got - they got the base and loyal viewers.

For a show that has been irrelevant for a long, long time, getting pretty much all of the loyal viewers is nothing to worry about at all. It's the viewership to follow.
 
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