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They’ve got about a quarter of their audience that is clearly drifting away. As someone said above, there is no floor. They will quite possibly be averaging sub 2.0s within 12 months.
Feels like this is what people saying for the last 2 years. Still looking out for a constant sub 2.0..Maybe the next 12 month will do the trick...

Consistant show deserves consistant raiting, well deserved.
 

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Feels like this is what people saying for the last 2 years. Still looking out for a constant sub 2.0..Maybe the next 12 month will do the trick...

Consistant show deserves consistant raiting, well deserved.
2018 they averaged 2,829,940 viewers
2019 they averaged 2,416,650
2020 they averaging 2,284,500. (and this number is skewed up since this is only averaging their most viewed part of the season (no football to compete against, and RTWM).

Just 2 years ago in 2018, they averaged 3.1 mil viewers for the month of Feb. 2020 they are averaging 2.3 mils.

And people want to celebrate this ratings? Seriously? Yeah, TV viewing habits have sure changed in 2 years...lol
 

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Highest Raw rating of the year. Not even a go-home or Raw the night after a PPV. Stay mad, Randeeee.
This is what's funny. The rating is higher than they got the night before and after Royal Rumble. Yet everyone here is still saying how terrible it is. It can't be that terrible if its consistently the most watch show Monday night except when NFL or a massive basketball game is on. If there was no Hr 3, the avg rating will be much better.

Then if you go to AEW section, the same people will be proclaiming 800k-900k stagnant ratings a massive success. WWE can't win with internet fans.
 

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2018 they averaged 2,829,940 viewers
2019 they averaged 2,416,650
2020 they averaging 2,284,500. (and this number is skewed up since this is only averaging their most viewed part of the season (no football to compete against, and RTWM).

Just 2 years ago in 2018, they averaged 3.1 mil viewers for the month of Feb. 2020 they are averaging 2.3 mils.

And people want to celebrate this ratings? Seriously? Yeah, TV viewing habits have sure changed in 2 years...lol
Well the landscape has changed and all the other shows are also down. WWE is beating most NBA games on Monday nights and that's the 2nd most popular sport in the country.

The ratings will keep going down and yes eventually under 2m, but most likely other shows will be doing the same. They had an unusually large drop between 2018-2019 though i admit.
 

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Well the landscape has changed and all the other shows are also down. WWE is beating most NBA games on Monday nights and that's the 2nd most popular sport in the country.

The ratings will keep going down and yes eventually under 2m, but most likely other shows will be doing the same. They had an unusually large drop between 2018-2019 though i admit.
Yes, the rating will continue to go down and eventually it becomes counter productive for USA to pay WWE 500mils a year to barely beat whatever low budget taped show is on other basic cable channels.

If the NFL or NBA (or any sport) had lost 30% of their viewing audience in a 2 year period, you don't think their networks would be really upset? What people like Showstopper like to argue is that "ratings have been going down since 2000". That's true. But, it doesn't tell the real story. Ratings drops have accelerated in the last 5 years. Accelerated. The Raw rating was fairly consistent between 2003 and 2015.

Lets just compare February 2015, to February 2020. Only 5 year difference.


5 years ago Raw did 4.46, 4.4, 4.00 for those 3 hours. Raw's lost nearly 50% of its viewers in the last 5 years. 50%! If any other sport had done this, there'd be serious issues between those sports and their networks.
 

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This is what's funny. The rating is higher than they got the night before and after Royal Rumble. Yet everyone here is still saying how terrible it is. It can't be that terrible if its consistently the most watch show Monday night except when NFL or a massive basketball game is on. If there was no Hr 3, the avg rating will be much better.

Then if you go to AEW section, the same people will be proclaiming 800k-900k stagnant ratings a massive success. WWE can't win with internet fans.
Exactly. The third hour of Raw STILL more than doubles AEW's overall rating, LOL. Think about that for a second.

This is part of the reason why barely anyone posts here anymore. Lots of people angry and frustrated with their lives and taking it out on here. Sorry. I'm not depressed like most folks here, so I'm on another forum now and loving it.
 

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Yes, the rating will continue to go down and eventually it becomes counter productive for USA to pay WWE 500mils a year to barely beat whatever low budget taped show is on other basic cable channels.

If the NFL or NBA (or any sport) had lost 30% of their viewing audience in a 2 year period, you don't think their networks would be really upset? What people like Showstopper like to argue is that "ratings have been going down since 2000". That's true. But, it doesn't tell the real story. Ratings drops have accelerated in the last 5 years. Accelerated. The Raw rating was fairly consistent between 2003 and 2015.

Lets just compare February 2015, to February 2020. Only 5 year difference.


5 years ago Raw did 4.46, 4.4, 4.00 for those 3 hours. Raw's lost nearly 50% of its viewers in the last 5 years. 50%! If any other sport had done this, there'd be serious issues between those sports and their networks.
Fair enough but the thing is WWE isn't a sport. Therefore it's not must see live especially with all the adverts. So people tend to catch the shows whenever they have spare time. So they are more likely to suffer big drops in viewership in a declining TV viewership market. It will be interesting to compare the drop to other non sport shows on cable 5 years ago.

Less than 2years ago, FOX and USA agreed massive deals whilst this significant drop in viewership was happening. So you cant say for sure where this is all going.

Either way, there is a highly competitive streaming platform market right now with Apple, Disney, Netflix & Amazon. All of which will be looking for ways to differentiate from market and WWe would be valuable. So WWE will have that option if they cant get good fees from traditional TV.

I think the higher ups are preparing for this and they may slowly phase out the content of the WWE network slowly over the coming years. They wont ge going anywhere anytime soon...
 

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Funny thing is the WWE and WWE fans are actually the only people who spin these lower numbers they get year over year as good. While mainstream publications, when they write about the WWE, like Variety and CNN, generally state that WWE TV ratings the last 2 years are disappointing, and that the Smackdown move to Fox has not garnered the numbers that were hoped for.
 

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2018 they averaged 2,829,940 viewers
2019 they averaged 2,416,650
2020 they averaging 2,284,500. (and this number is skewed up since this is only averaging their most viewed part of the season (no football to compete against, and RTWM).

Just 2 years ago in 2018, they averaged 3.1 mil viewers for the month of Feb. 2020 they are averaging 2.3 mils.

And people want to celebrate this ratings? Seriously? Yeah, TV viewing habits have sure changed in 2 years...lol
Because they are dominating the demo and only have NFL which is superior. It is as easy as that. Monday night is won by WWE each week, so yeah they are successful. Just see how the NFL is loosing viewership year over year and no one says they are done by 2040...
 

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Funny thing is the WWE and WWE fans are actually the only people who spin these lower numbers they get year over year as good. While mainstream publications, when they write about the WWE, like Variety and CNN, generally state that WWE TV ratings the last 2 years are disappointing, and that the Smackdown move to Fox has not garnered the numbers that were hoped for.
That sentiment is also reflected in their stock price. I'm certain if their ratings were better, their stock price would be higher because there'd be a future expectation of big $$$$ TV deals continuing to come WWE's way. Right now, there can't be.
 

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Because they are dominating the demo and only have NFL which is superior. It is as easy as that. Monday night is won by WWE each week, so yeah they are successful. Just see how the NFL is loosing viewership year over year and no one says they are done by 2040...
The NFL hasn't lost 50% of their viewers over the last 5 years. WWE has.
 

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The NFL hasn't lost 50% of their viewers over the last 5 years. WWE has.
And what about my demo argument? Because as far as I remember that is the important one. So you say they should just go and fold, because they lose viewers although USA is very happy (look at their new years message) and they just started the 5 year deal worth a billion?
 

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Dropping 12.1% in total viewers and 18% in the demo in just one year is not a good look., especially since last year's Road to Wrestlemania was so lowly rated. Hour 3 was a big anchor this week, Not so coincidentally as noted from the Observer .RAW lost 19% of viewers at the start of Seth Rollin’s segment for hour three. YIKES!!!! Mr. Hour 3 strikes again. Mr. Hour 3 THEN, NOW, FOREVER. :eek::eek::eek:
 

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Dropping 12.1% in total viewers and 18% in the demo in just one year is not a good look., especially since last year's Road to Wrestlemania was so lowly rated. Hour 3 was a big anchor this week, Not so coincidentally as noted from the Observer .RAW lost 19% of viewers at the start of Seth Rollin’s segment for hour three. YIKES!!!! Mr. Hour 3 strikes again. Mr. Hour 3 THEN, NOW, FOREVER. :eek::eek::eek:
Is that supposed to be funny or clever? It's really not honestly since this is basically just you using your hatred for Seth Rollins to twist your false narrative that he's somehow responsible for the lost audience because the third hour just happened to be low.

It's pathetic that some folks are still blaming (any of) the current talents for the low ratings in 2020, ESPECIALLY when Raw has actually made more of an effort lately to build multiple storylines throughout the show and feature/push newer talents over the past couple of months; but yet the overall ratings are STILL unimpressive despite the better quality.

It's almost like WWE needs to write good shows for a better product on a consistent basis (which will most likely take at least several months of better booking in the long-term) in order to win over and/or win back the faith of their audience.
 

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But but the demo rating 0.4 lol mostly 50+ year olds. As they get older most will stop watching sooner then later
 

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This is what's funny. The rating is higher than they got the night before and after Royal Rumble. Yet everyone here is still saying how terrible it is. It can't be that terrible if its consistently the most watch show Monday night except when NFL or a massive basketball game is on. If there was no Hr 3, the avg rating will be much better.

Then if you go to AEW section, the same people will be proclaiming 800k-900k stagnant ratings a massive success. WWE can't win with internet fans.
800-900k for something less than 6 months old is hardly stagnant, it's great consistency considering TNT wanted 500-600k.

Wrestling isn't as popular nowadays but the drops in Raw have been alarming but now they're making bank with Saudi, their TV rating drops aren't too bad - because as you said, it's the most consistently watched show on a Monday night. I doubt Raw any time soon drops consistently below 2m.

But dishing on AEWs ratings as 'stagnant' is just silly, especially when comparing to Raw.
 
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