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Second hour was decent with a boost but then it dropped over 300,000 for hour #3.

Hour 1 was not a good number, Hour 2 was solid but the increase was astroturf with buzz from Heyman and the open. Hour 3 on paper is traditionally higher and a good number but still dropped considerably from hour 2 which is a concern.
 

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You just know numbers are going to be horrific after that terrible first hour/show (as a whole).
Or judging from this week's RAW thread, its going to be bad too. The RAW thread isn't even at 100 pages.
 
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This week was absolute dog shit. I don't check in here too frequently, but I am curious what ratings did after the abyssmal first hour.
 

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WWE and old fans just hope & pray they get another late 90’s come round again will,be sorely disappointed the WWE has became so dismal in 2019.

The Gratitude era. ��
 

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WWE and old fans just hope & pray they get another late 90’s come round again will,be sorely disappointed the WWE has became so dismal in 2019.

The Gratitude era. ��
The Yas Queen era.

How many fans do you have saying shit like YAS queen/slay king etc. to UFC fighters?

WWE is tailored to the pussies and has become a joke to the demo that matters in terms of mainstream and popularity.
 

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Quick question why do u guys use past ratings to judge current ratings? Since we all agree that cable tv today is not the same as it was 5 or 10 years ago due to live streams, Hulu, etc why can’t we use current tv shows as a metric. While I understand that ratings are not what it was, the fact that raw and smackdown live are the top rated shows on tv tells me that they are doing just fine in today’s ratings climate.
 

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Quick question why do u guys use past ratings to judge current ratings? Since we all agree that cable tv today is not the same as it was 5 or 10 years ago due to live streams, Hulu, etc why can’t we use current tv shows as a metric. While I understand that ratings are not what it was, the fact that raw and smackdown live are the top rated shows on tv tells me that they are doing just fine in today’s ratings climate.
Nobody does what you are saying. The comparisons most talked about in this thread are YoY. Of which WWE’s drop is much more drastic than the average drop for cable.
 

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Quick question why do u guys use past ratings to judge current ratings? Since we all agree that cable tv today is not the same as it was 5 or 10 years ago due to live streams, Hulu, etc why can’t we use current tv shows as a metric. While I understand that ratings are not what it was, the fact that raw and smackdown live are the top rated shows on tv tells me that they are doing just fine in today’s ratings climate.
Exactly. All the other shows have gone down too. There's a hundred shows/sports/etc on cable competing against them in the same timeslot. And that's just cable, now add in major TV networks. Now add in Netflix, Hulu, etc... the fact that the majority of people dvr RAW/SD. WWE digital viewership went up over 20% this year. All contribute to the ratings taking a hit.
 

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Exactly. All the other shows have gone down too. There's a hundred shows/sports/etc on cable competing against them in the same timeslot. And that's just cable, now add in major TV networks. Now add in Netflix, Hulu, etc... the fact that the majority of people dvr RAW/SD. WWE digital viewership went up over 20% this year. All contribute to the ratings taking a hit.
If NBCU and Fox were thrilled with where things are at, and where they are headed I’d say you have an argument. However, the drop since last year is so severe and WWE is getting so much heat that there is no debate that what’s happening to their viewership is a huge concern. If there was no pressure on WWE Heyman and Bischoff wouldn’t be getting pulled in. If the fall rate continues as it is they won’t be getting any tv contracts next time around. That’s why it’s a hot topic.
 

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If NBCU and Fox were thrilled with where things are at, and where they are headed I’d say you have an argument. However, the drop since last year is so severe and WWE is getting so much heat that there is no debate that what’s happening to their viewership is a huge concern. If there was no pressure on WWE Heyman and Bischoff wouldn’t be getting pulled in. If the fall rate continues as it is they won’t be getting any tv contracts next time around. That’s why it’s a hot topic.
I understand what you are saying. But as far as FOX being thrilled or not thrilled we don't know. This is all rumor. The only facts we know is FOX is going to be pushing/promoing WWE hard when it gets closer to October. Plus they will be ads for WWE on all their major network shows, all their sporting events, etc... Including Thursday Night NFL Football and NASCAR. Another point to bring up, WWE will be getting new advertisers that they probably never got before on USA. So FOX is all in, is what I'm getting at. Being in 30+ million more homes and on a major network instead of a cable channel (not to mention it can be watched by simple antenna for those without cable) can only help
 

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I understand what you are saying. But as far as FOX being thrilled or not thrilled we don't know. This is all rumor. The only facts we know is FOX is going to be pushing/promoing WWE hard when it gets closer to October. Plus they will be ads for WWE on all their major network shows, all their sporting events, etc... Including Thursday Night NFL Football and NASCAR. Another point to bring up, WWE will be getting new advertisers that they probably never got before on USA. So FOX is all in, is what I'm getting at. Being in 30+ million more homes and on a major network instead of a cable channel (not to mention it can be watched by simple antenna for those without cable) can only help
I think we do know the networks are unhappy. There have been too many panic moves lately. The wild card rule, the reduction of emphasis on the women, Undertaker being back, Heyman, Bischoff, no wrestling during commercials, the 24/7 title, giving Brock the briefcase, I’m sure I’m missing others. Fox is still going to give it a try obviously, but there’s no way they don’t get canceled if the ratings don’t improve drastically. It’s just common sense. Sure they will be in more homes, but do the type of people that don’t have cable care about wrestling? That will be the question.
 

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Those are great numbers, most of the top shows on cable do 500k-1m viewers

The reason why I am asking is because what is the metrics used for good ratings today. Let’s take music for example, back in 2000 if you sold 1m records u were seen as successful. In today’s digital age no one sells 1m records but there are a lot of successful artists out there.
I just think we have to take into account the damage digital media and social media has done to cable tv.
In 1998 when stone cold came on my tv it was must see tv and u wouldn’t dare miss it because I wasn’t sure if it would come on again. In today’s time if stone cold came on my tv and I was busy, I would simply skip raw and watch it 24 hours later on Hulu.
Also the rock is the goat but his show the titans only did 1.8 in ratings.

https://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tuesday-cable-ratings-july-2-2019/
Smackdown live is no 1.
Until I see raw and smackdown fall out of the top 10 I won’t worry. The big worry for wwe is the low attendance record at venues in my opinion.
 

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WWE RAW Viewership Down Going Into Extreme Rules
Monday's WWE RAW episode, the final red brand show before Extreme Rules, drew an average of 2.352 million viewers, according to Showbuzz Daily. This is down 6% from last week's 2.496 million viewers.

This week's RAW featured a double main event advertised ahead of time - Andrade and Zelina Vega vs. RAW Women's Champion Becky Lynch and WWE Universal Champion Seth Rollins, which was the opener, plus the closing match - Shane McMahon and Drew McIntyre vs. Roman Reigns and his mystery partner (Cedric Alexander masked as Gary The Janitor). Rey Mysterio's return was also announced.

For this week's show, the first hour drew 2.384 million viewers (last week's hour 1 - 2.468 million), the second hour drew 2.349 million viewers (last week's hour 2 - 2.676 million) and the final hour drew 2.322 million viewers (last week's hour 3 - 2.345 million).

RAW was #7 in viewership this week, behind the MLB Home Run Derby, the Derby Prelude, Hannity, Tucker Carlson Tonight, The Five, and The Ingraham Angle. RAW was #5 in the Cable Top 150 18-49 demographic this week, behind the Derby, the Derby Prelude, Love & Hip-Hop, and the MLB Celebrity Softball game.

The Bachelorette on ABC drew 6.035 million viewers on broadcast TV in the 8pm hour while The Neighborhood drew 3.490 million viewers on CBS, American Ninja Warrior drew 4.494 million viewers on NBC, Beat Shazam drew 2.351 million viewers on Fox and CW's Penn & Teller show drew 1.149 million viewers, all in the 8pm hour on broadcast TV.

Below is our 2019 RAW Viewership Tracker:

January 7 Episode: 2.324 million viewers
January 14 Episode: 2.722 million viewers
January 21 Episode: 2.462 million viewers
January 28 Episode: 2.703 million viewers (post-Royal Rumble episode)
February 4 Episode: 2.510 million viewers
February 11 Episode: 2.462 million viewers
February 18 Episode: 2.771 million viewers (post-Elimination Chamber episode)
February 25 Episode: 2.922 million viewers
March 4 Episode: 2.783 million viewers
March 11 Episode: 2.819 million viewers (post-Fastlane episode)
March 18 Episode: 2.695 million viewers
March 25 Episode: 2.589 million viewers
April 1 Episode: 2.639 million viewers
April 8 Episode: 2.923 million viewers (post-WrestleMania 35 episode)
April 15 Episode: 2.665 million viewers (Superstar Shakeup episode)
April 22 Episode: 2.374 million viewers
April 29 Episode: 2.158 million viewers
May 6 Episode: 2.244 million viewers
May 13 Episode: 2.349 million viewers (taped episode from London)
May 20 Episode: 2.521 million viewers (post-Money In the Bank episode)
May 27 Episode: 2.190 million viewers (Memorial Day episode)
June 3 Episode: 2.405 million viewers
June 10 Episode: 2.125 million viewers (post-Super ShowDown episode)
June 17 Episode: 2.235 million viewers
June 24 Episode: 2.275 (post-Stomping Grounds episode)
July 1 Episode: 2.496 million viewers
July 8 Episode: 2.352 million viewers
July 15 Episode:

2018 Total: 149.628 million viewers over 53 episodes
2018 Average: 2.823 million viewers per episode

2017 Total: 156.971 million viewers over 52 episodes
2017 Average: 3.018 million viewers per episode
Source: https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2019/07/wwe-raw-viewership-down-going-into-extreme-rules-656190/
– The rating and viewership for Raw backtracked a bit ahead of this weekend’s Extreme Rules. Monday’s episode brought in a 0.72 rating in the 18 – 49 demographic and 2.352 million viewers, down 8% and 6% from last week’s 0.79 demo rating and 2.496 million viewers. The numbers were the lowest for Raw since the June 17th episode scored a 0.71 rating and an audience of 2.235 million.

Raw came in at #5 among cable originals for the night, pushed down by direct competition in the Home Run Derby on ESPN and Celebrity Softball game that followed. The main Home Run Derby topped the night among cable originals per Showbuzz Daily with a 1.80 demo rating and 5.347 million viewers, followed by the prelude (1.02/3.429 million), Love & Hip-Hop on VH-1 (0.85/1.758 million) and the Celebrity Softball game (0.85/2.157 million). The hourly numbers were:

8 PM: 0.71 demo rating (2.384 million viewers)
9 PM: 0.73 demo rating (2.349 million viewers)
10 PM: 0.73 demo rating (2.322 million viewers)
Source: https://411mania.com/wrestling/wwe-raw-rating-down-heading-into-extreme-rules/
 
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