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Quite easily Bryan for me.

I felt that the storytelling was better, and the match felt more competitive than AJ's match. I'm not sure if that was actually the case, but I came out of the match feeling like Bryan gave Brock more of a fight.
 

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Quite easily Bryan for me.

I felt that the storytelling was better, and the match felt more competitive than AJ's match. I'm not sure if that was actually the case, but I came out of the match feeling like Bryan gave Brock more of a fight.
Agree to disagree, Brock killed Bryan for 10 mins and had the match won really early on after the F5. He had landed one strike up until the F5 and pin and I don't even think it landed, I think Brock avoided it or it didn't connect.
 

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Agree to disagree, Brock killed Bryan for 10 mins and had the match won really early on after the F5. He had landed one strike up until the F5 and pin and I don't even think it landed, I think Brock avoided it or it didn't connect.
Why did you edit the rest of your post?
 

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From a match perspective, I liked the Beast vs. the Superhero better. Lesnar vs. Styles was a great match and showed why Styles, although not as big as Brock, is worthy of holding the title.

However, from a storyline perspective or an aftermath angle - the match told a story. Styles and Lesnar went their separate ways. But the new Daniel Bryan wanted to kill off any remnants of the old Bryan by feeding his own body to the beast. only then, through the pain could he be reborn as the new Daniel Bryan and start sadistically attack Lesnar.

When Bryan started hitting those big-time cross faces when Brock was trying to break out of the Yes Lock and then Bryan applied it again, I thought Lesnar would tap... it was damn close and I was cheering him. If he made Lesnar tap and he stood up victorious holy shit, WWE would have put Bryan on another level, and there would be no need for them paying Brock all this money.

So, that's my take. The internal story for Bryan/Lesnar was better, but the match with Styles I thought was better... so for me its a draw...
 

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That's quite a tough question honestly.

Imo AJ actually stood a chance after taking a beating therefore it felt like your traditional back and forth match by making AJ look like he had what it took to go toe to toe with Lesnar just like Punk from 5 yrs earlier who also took Brock to the limit.

Bryan on one hand got dominated in similar fashion to Cena until he got one lucky lowblow and had Brock on the ropes in what I call one of the best comebacks I've seen when I didn't expect it to happen.

Bias plays a little part so I can't really decide because both were easily the best matches on their respective SS cards so draw for me.
 

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From a match perspective, I liked the Beast vs. the Superhero better. Lesnar vs. Styles was a great match and showed why Styles, although not as big as Brock, is worthy of holding the title.

However, from a storyline perspective or an aftermath angle - the match told a story. Styles and Lesnar went their separate ways. But the new Daniel Bryan wanted to kill off any remnants of the old Bryan by feeding his own body to the beast. only then, through the pain could he be reborn as the new Daniel Bryan and start sadistically attack Lesnar.

When Bryan started hitting those big-time cross faces when Brock was trying to break out of the Yes Lock and then Bryan applied it again, I thought Lesnar would tap... it was damn close and I was cheering him. If he made Lesnar tap and he stood up victorious holy shit, WWE would have put Bryan on another level, and there would be no need for them paying Brock all this money.

So, that's my take. The internal story for Bryan/Lesnar was better, but the match with Styles I thought was better... so for me its a draw...
It was basically Bane vs Spiderman or an anime version of Broly vs Vegeta (AJ didn't go down as easily as Vegeta would against Broly, Vince likes AJ more than Akira likes Vegeta.) with AJ not giving up, fighting for his pride and throwing every technique he had at him which Brock survived and overpowered through and led to AJ succumbing when he was looking to put Brock away with away his most powerful move in his arsenal. Once the match was over, AJ was trying to get to his feet to show while he had been defeated he was still standing and worthy of being called champion - again back to his pride as a competitor and champion.

Come to think of it, Brock vs Cena at ER was basically Broly vs Goku with Cena finding a way to come out on top after getting bodied for the majority of the match :lol
 

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From a match perspective, I liked the Beast vs. the Superhero better. Lesnar vs. Styles was a great match and showed why Styles, although not as big as Brock, is worthy of holding the title.

However, from a storyline perspective or an aftermath angle - the match told a story. Styles and Lesnar went their separate ways. But the new Daniel Bryan wanted to kill off any remnants of the old Bryan by feeding his own body to the beast. only then, through the pain could he be reborn as the new Daniel Bryan and start sadistically attack Lesnar.

When Bryan started hitting those big-time cross faces when Brock was trying to break out of the Yes Lock and then Bryan applied it again, I thought Lesnar would tap... it was damn close and I was cheering him. If he made Lesnar tap and he stood up victorious holy shit, WWE would have put Bryan on another level, and there would be no need for them paying Brock all this money.

So, that's my take. The internal story for Bryan/Lesnar was better, but the match with Styles I thought was better... so for me its a draw...
It was basically Bane vs Spiderman or an anime version of Broly vs Vegeta with AJ not giving up, fighting for his pride and throwing every technique he had at him which Brock survived and overpowered through and led to AJ succumbing. Even after the match was over, AJ was trying to get to his feet to show while he had been defeated he was still standing.

AJ didn't go down as easily as Vegeta would against Broly, Vince likes AJ more than Akira likes Vegeta.

Come to think of it, Brock vs Cena at ER was basically Broly vs Goku with Cena finding a way to come out on top after getting bodied for the majority of the match <img src="http://i.imgur.com/EGDmCdR.gif?1?6573" border="0" alt="" title="Laugh" class="inlineimg" />
If anything Cena turned into a Krillin at SummerSlam.
 

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I didn't want this turn into a mark war. It's a subjective thing, the competitive side of things is not. Bryan was beaten early and his first strike that landed in the match was a low blow which turned the match around.
The first thing you said when Bryan came back was that you couldn't wait for, and I quote, "mark wars". What's changed?
 

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The AJ match was a little tighter and the story was better executed imo. AJ weathering a storm of Brock unleashing hell and striking as SOON as he saw the opening (Brock missing the corner knee) is a better version Bryan kicking Brock in the dick and taking advantage of that.

I know Bryan's the heel and it makes sense, but AJ displaying ALL that fire to fight this unstoppable monster makes a better match imo, than a cheating little shit trying to win anyway he can.

AJ vs Brock ****1/2

Bryan vs Brock ***3/4
Agreed, I felt the same way. I wish they would book these guys to gain advantages over Lesnar without having to kick him in the nads. Even Taker had to resort to that shit, the freaking Undertaker. You don't have to be a Braun Strowman or Goldberg to hang with Lesnar, but you can still find better ways of taking him down without doing that.

If Lesnar makes an mistake by running into the ring post or something like that, it's fine.

I won't lie in saying that I was on edge to making it look as though Bryan had Lesnar almost on the verge of submitting, however.
 

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If viewing them in a vacuum I'd say Bryan put on the better match.

But in viewing them in real world context they were basically the same match and just one of the three formats Brock has put on throughout his most recent run, Squash, Finisher Fest, and, in this case, Beatdown and Comeback.
 

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Agreed, I felt the same way. I wish they would book these guys to gain advantages over Lesnar without having to kick him in the nads. Even Taker had to resort to that shit, the freaking Undertaker. You don't have to be a Braun Strowman or Goldberg to hang with Lesnar, but you can still find better ways of taking him down without doing that.

If Lesnar makes an mistake by running into the ring post or something like that, it's fine.

I won't lie in saying that I was on edge to making it look as though Bryan had Lesnar almost on the verge of submitting, however.
Once again, :brock3 with that top notch 'Will he reaaaallly tap out' selling.
 

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If viewing them in a vacuum I'd say Bryan put on the better match.

But in viewing them in real world context they were basically the same match and just one of the three formats Brock has put on throughout his most recent run, Squash, Finisher Fest, and, in this case, Beatdown and Comeback.
Just because two matches followed the same formula doesn't make them the same match. It doesn't work like that. Details are important in matches, especially when determining what makes them great to begin with. In this case, both may have a similar formula, but the execution is very different. There's little to no similarity in these matches in that regard.
 

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Both amazing. But Bryan made me a lot of more times to believe that he is gonna win. And that's why it's better. And to leave a stomp on Brocks face, shows you how they really they were prepared for this match. Beautiful. I still think everything was Bryan's plan. Officials told to do similiar match story as Aj's and Brocks, but boy, did Bryan made it more believable.
 

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They were similar in a lot of ways but the opening mauling portion by Brock dragged on longer and it didn't draw as much sympathy from the crowd due to Bryan being a heel. Really would've loved to have seen this match with Bryan as a face. I loved the spot where he kept stomping Brock in the head and when he had Brock in the crossface it gave me flashbacks to Brock/Benoit.
 

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They were both very good but basically the same match: Brock beats the crap out of them...the tide turns and AJ/Bryan get the upper hand off of a mistake and have Brock on the verge of tapping...after a little back and forth, Brock hits an F5 and goodnight!
 
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