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I think they'll get around a 1.5-2 for the first week and then depending what they do it will either drop sharply or stay around the same. They NEED a good and big first show to keep and gain people's interest, if they do a bunch of hokey stuff like they did with their first pre-shows and it becomes an Elite circle jerk then they will turn a lot more people off. They need a big name like Punk or something showing up and they need to cliffhanger their shows where you feel like you HAVE to watch the next one, good storytelling and good drama and action can attract casuals. The most successful programs do this.
 

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As some said they have to go big. First impressions are first impressions. Give people a Punk and the buzz will last a month. By that time you've already got your unknown guys exposed enough for people to care.
 

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MLB wildcard game is on either ESPN or TBS next Wednesday night so that will effect both NXT and AEW numbers I would imagine.

That game does big live viewership
 

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As some said they have to go big. First impressions are first impressions. Give people a Punk and the buzz will last a month. By that time you've already got your unknown guys exposed enough for people to care.
"give people a Punk"....

The guy don't want to wrestle anymore , how many times does he have to say it ?!
 

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I do agree their promotional scope has been impressive and TNT should be applauded for the amount of push they are giving them.

But still, there is 0% chance anyone is expecting them to beat out WWEs flagships on the 1st week. We know there are a couple million lapsed fans out there who aren't tuning in to WWE but that doesnt mean they are all gonna tune in right away. We are talking 9 years since the last live wrestling in primetime and 18 years since the last viable competition existed.

What I would expect is something big to close the show as they have to be aware that they need to capture as many viewers as possible to keep them tuning in.
They won’t be SmackDown that week. God no. But there was no reason they can’t beat your average shitty SmackDown.

But this thing is losing steam big time. A very disappointing TV deal in the UK. Charging people for it live. Not a great look.

I’m going to guess 1.36 for the debut show now. There will be desperados who will brag about this beating NXT’s first night, but that number is going to go down.
 

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Lmao, scalpers are trying to unload tickets to their tv debut for $10 and still nobody is buying. Where’s all the AEW white knights that were triggered because I truthfully said all the sellouts were only a result of scalpers who would later take a huge hit on tickets?


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Lmao, scalpers are trying to unload tickets to their tv debut for $10 and still nobody is buying. Where’s all the AEW white knights that were triggered because I truthfully said all the sellouts were only a result of scalpers who would later take a huge hit on tickets?


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There was definitely something behind scalpers getting in, but that's also because it was a hot ticket. And the hysteria from the media that reports on it didn't really explain that it was a small audience of the same people lining up the same times and that wasn't going to happen forever.
 

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Last Nitro did around 2 million viewers and that was a boom period for pro wrestling in the US at the time.

Raw did average 3 million a few years ago live but that was 40% female viewers, 25% kids under 18 (many under 10 years old). Those aren't segments that AEW seems to attract or market to. Maybe if they sign Cena and the Bella Twins they gain some of those viewers.
The final Nitro did a 3.0. Which is over 4 million viewers and the average Nitro was still getting 2.Xs (over 3 million viewers) in 2001. AEW will get less than 1/4 of that at best. It's a pipe dream that an upstart wrestling promotion with practically no star power will get close to 1 million viewers in 2019.
 

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They won’t be SmackDown that week. God no. But there was no reason they can’t beat your average shitty SmackDown.

But this thing is losing steam big time. A very disappointing TV deal in the UK. Charging people for it live. Not a great look.

I’m going to guess 1.36 for the debut show now. There will be desperados who will brag about this beating NXT’s first night, but that number is going to go down.
Losing steam big time lol

So much hyperbole
 

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They won’t be SmackDown that week. God no. But there was no reason they can’t beat your average shitty SmackDown.

But this thing is losing steam big time. A very disappointing TV deal in the UK. Charging people for it live. Not a great look.

I’m going to guess 1.36 for the debut show now. There will be desperados who will brag about this beating NXT’s first night, but that number is going to go down.
Losing steam big time lol

So much hyperbole
But this thing is losing steam big time.
*kobe bitch please face gif*

With who? Every wrestling fan I know (half of which has stopped watching shitty ass Double U Double U E <img src="http://i.imgur.com/wh9boJm.png" border="0" alt="" title="Cole" class="inlineimg" />) are fucking pumped for this.
I can address these both in one swipe. Latest traditional PPV numbers in. 29,000 for All Out. This is down from 39,000 for Double or Nothing. The PPV buys are down over 25%.

We also know that 46% of All Out’s buyers, on traditional and OTT, bought DON. This means that about 13,500 people who watched DON on traditional PPV ordered All Out. Do you know what retention rate that is from DON? 34.5%.

Those numbers do not lie. 1/3 people who ordered DON on traditional PPV came back for AO. And before you do the “they bought it on Fite” thing. No, they didn’t. Not in droves. The overall buys were down and the 46% statistic held. Most people who watched the first PPV didn’t watch the second. That’s just the bare-boned truth.

They are no longer the hot ticket. I’m pretty sure you can grab tickets to most of their TVs and even their upcoming PPV. This is still supposed to be the honeymoon period.

I’m not being a “hater” when I say this. These are just facts. You can dispute why these metrics are cooling off, but to deny that they are is just lying to yourselves.
 

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I can address these both in one swipe. Latest traditional PPV numbers in. 29,000 for All Out. This is down from 39,000 for Double or Nothing. The PPV buys are down over 25%.

We also know that 46% of All Out’s buyers, on traditional and OTT, bought DON. This means that about 13,500 people who watched DON on traditional PPV ordered All Out. Do you know what retention rate that is from DON? 34.5%.

Those numbers do not lie. 1/3 people who ordered DON on traditional PPV came back for AO. And before you do the “they bought it on Fite” thing. No, they didn’t. Not in droves. The overall buys were down and the 46% statistic held. Most people who watched the first PPV didn’t watch the second. That’s just the bare-boned truth.

They are no longer the hot ticket. I’m pretty sure you can grab tickets to most of their TVs and even their upcoming PPV. This is still supposed to be the honeymoon period.

I’m not being a “hater” when I say this. These are just facts. You can dispute why these metrics are cooling off, but to deny that they are is just lying to yourselves.
You’ve convinced me, guess I’ll stop watching now

Oh well.... wonder what is on netflix :’(
 

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I can address these both in one swipe. Latest traditional PPV numbers in. 29,000 for All Out. This is down from 39,000 for Double or Nothing. The PPV buys are down over 25%.

We also know that 46% of All Out’s buyers, on traditional and OTT, bought DON. This means that about 13,500 people who watched DON on traditional PPV ordered All Out. Do you know what retention rate that is from DON? 34.5%.

Those numbers do not lie. 1/3 people who ordered DON on traditional PPV came back for AO. And before you do the “they bought it on Fite” thing. No, they didn’t. Not in droves. The overall buys were down and the 46% statistic held. Most people who watched the first PPV didn’t watch the second. That’s just the bare-boned truth.

They are no longer the hot ticket. I’m pretty sure you can grab tickets to most of their TVs and even their upcoming PPV. This is still supposed to be the honeymoon period.

I’m not being a “hater” when I say this. These are just facts. You can dispute why these metrics are cooling off, but to deny that they are is just lying to yourselves.
You should get out a bit more. Go get some sex.
 

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I can address these both in one swipe. Latest traditional PPV numbers in. 29,000 for All Out. This is down from 39,000 for Double or Nothing. The PPV buys are down over 25%.

We also know that 46% of All Out’s buyers, on traditional and OTT, bought DON. This means that about 13,500 people who watched DON on traditional PPV ordered All Out. Do you know what retention rate that is from DON? 34.5%.

Those numbers do not lie. 1/3 people who ordered DON on traditional PPV came back for AO. And before you do the “they bought it on Fite” thing. No, they didn’t. Not in droves. The overall buys were down and the 46% statistic held. Most people who watched the first PPV didn’t watch the second. That’s just the bare-boned truth.

They are no longer the hot ticket. I’m pretty sure you can grab tickets to most of their TVs and even their upcoming PPV. This is still supposed to be the honeymoon period.

I’m not being a “hater” when I say this. These are just facts. You can dispute why these metrics are cooling off, but to deny that they are is just lying to yourselves.
You’ve convinced me, guess I’ll stop watching now

Oh well.... wonder what is on netflix :’(
gotta love how the dude also ignores that the traditional ppv were down but the be live were up, itv were up and fite TV were up. And the ppv did around 100k 110k ( which pushed meltzer and some to wonder if aew created new fana because the people who bought don didnt massively buy AO
Or also how we forget to point out that some people simply will not buy other ppv because in 2k19 not everyone is going to buy 2 ppv that cost 50$
That's this place, each person uses the numbers and spins it to fit their narrative.
 

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gotta love how the dude also ignores that the traditional ppv were down but the be live were up, itv were up and fite TV were up. And the ppv did around 100k 110k ( which pushed meltzer and some to wonder if aew created new fana because the people who bought don didnt massively buy AO
Or also how we forget to point out that some people simply will not buy other ppv because in 2k19 not everyone is going to buy 2 ppv that cost 50$
That's this place, each person uses the numbers and spins it to fit their narrative.
I was bored, so I checked his post which is usually on my ‘ignore’ list - and immediately I was like ‘yep, right calls were made to ignore’

Especially since he defended the NXT ratings drop as ‘normal and logical’, but writes this BS about AEW

Hahahhaha wheeeeee

Obvious troll is obvious

Anyway... back to the Rugby today :)
 

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Last Nitro did around 2 million viewers and that was a boom period for pro wrestling in the US at the time.

Raw did average 3 million a few years ago live but that was 40% female viewers, 25% kids under 18 (many under 10 years old). Those aren't segments that AEW seems to attract or market to. Maybe if they sign Cena and the Bella Twins they gain some of those viewers.
The final Nitro did a 3.0. Which is over 4 million viewers and the average Nitro was still getting 2.Xs (over 3 million viewers) in 2001. AEW will get less than 1/4 of that at best. It's a pipe dream that an upstart wrestling promotion with practically no star power will get close to 1 million viewers in 2019.
There was about 65 million cable homes in late 2000 so a 3 would be 3 percent of that.

Cable homes peaked in 2009-11 at 100+ million homes which is why e.g raw had far more actual viewers in 2009 watching than 2003

NXT got 1.2 million for it's debut last week with little to no promotion and nobody that had worked cable TV previously. AEW is costing far more to run than NXT, getting more promotion and has bigger names, Jericho likely makes more than everyone who performed on nxt combined.

I don't see it doing less than 1.3 million if it drew 390,000 viewers for a preshow show at 10pm on a Friday night.
 
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