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AEW Double or Nothing PPV Discussion Thread - Sun, May 28, 2023

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The stream of big shows begins here. Gonna be a crazy 2nd half of 2023.
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Card looks so fucking weak. What the hell happened to AEW. Especially compared to the cards they use to have.
Every DON minus the first has had a big battle between rival factions.

Is the main event any different from the Triple Threat from DON from 2021? It would be extremely difficult to make almost any title match by MJF this stage an unpredictable matchup.

We have been seeing OC in singles defences all year long. This Casino Battle Royale has immediate stakes for once.

If Hayter can go her match with Toni Storm would be the best possible matchup between women that AEW can offer. If Hayter is too injured to compete that is a real bummer.

Jarrett & Lethal have exceeded expectations so far. They probably don’t need these title shots they are getting recently. As champs they will be much easier to boo than almost any champs AEW has had since starting up in 2019.
Prefacing this by saying I love AEW, it’s right down my alley and what I love about professional wrestling. However, this is by far and away the least interested I’ve been heading into an AEW PPV out of their own doing, whether it be poorly mapping out a story, or straight out matches I’ve no interest in - obviously disregarding some of the pandemic events where Khan’s hands were essentially tied behind his back. Having said that, in typical AEW fashion, I’m sure the event itself will be outstanding, certain matches will go over and above expectations - and, of course, I’ll be buying and watching as ever. So, let’s get to the matches!

Ethan Page and The Gunns vs. The Hardys and Hook;

Obvious result is obvious. The built may very well be completely uninteresting, but considering the competitors involved - the heat-magnets that are Page and the Gunns, and how over the Hardys and Hook always are - the crowd will no doubt be glued to the action. Straight forward tag match, with the faces going over. Would do the Gunns well to maybe continue their feud with the Hardys, and possible get a couple of Dynamite matches against the legendary tag-team. However, high time for Hook to push on, and possible get a decent singles PPV match at All In or All Out.

Jade Cargill vs. Taya Valkyrie - AEW TBS Championship

Cargill retains, but we’re coming dangerously close to a point where the fans are just not interested in Cargill and her reign. A successful defence on PPV should have her issue an open challenge soon and (finally) get her to drop it. The first Collision show anyone?

Blackjack Battle Royal - AEW International Championship

Been humming and hawing over this one, but I really feel Cassidy should retain. The entire story about this championship is 100% about Cassidy, how these successful title defences are gradually wearing his body down. Final four should be Cassidy, Starks, Jay White and I’m going with Big Bill. Starks and White take each other out, continue that heartless feud, and Cassidy upstages the giant similar to Benoit/Big Show. Similar to Cargill, Cassidy should drop it over the coming weeks - maybe even to a Big Bill in dominant fashion.

Adam Cole vs. Chris Jericho - Unsanctioned Match

If the result of this match wasn’t obvious enough, they introduce the hometown hero, Sabu, to the fold. While I don’t see Sabu making much of an impact, I do see him as some sort of red-herring. My prediction is Kyle O’Reilly makes his big return mid-match, helps Cole win before his eventual programme with MJF for the World Title over the summer.

Wardlow vs. Christian Cage - Ladder Match for the AEW TNT Championship

This... is an unpredictable match. I can see a case for either to win. Christian winning has been teased at for some time, longer than the Wardlow build itself in fact. Christian proclaimed to win a championship before Jungle Boy. However, that would set-up a yet another Christian vs. Jungle Boy feud and encounter that I don’t think anyone wants to see at this point. So, for that reason, along with the hot-potato usage of the title in recent times, Wardlow retains, defeating a legend at his own game. No idea where Wardlow goes from there, however I’m sure a Wardlow vs. Luchasaurus title match on Dynamite should be a fun watch.

Jamie Hayter vs. Toni Storm - AEW Women’s Championship

If rumours are to be believed, and Hayter is a lot more hurt than previously thought, we may not get this match in the first place. The rumours seem too strong to dismiss, and ex-Stardom alumni Storm can carry the title in the short-term as we head into Forbidden Door. Storm wins, Hayter regains the title at Wembley.

FTR vs. Jeff Jarrett and Jay Lethal - AEW World Tag Team Championships, Mark Briscoe Referee

Fun match, I’m sure. Like the six-man, over faces, and great heels. What more can you ask for? FTR wins, Briscoe finally turns on Dutt’s men.

Blackpool Combat Club vs. The Elite - Anarchy in the Arena

World class talent at every turn… but the Blackpool Combat Club have carried this build. It hasn’t helped that the only real moment Elite have shone, Omega is turned on by Callis - presumably for a story not even affiliated with this. The build is set up for an Elite win. They will win. Page is finally embraced into the group by Omega. Omega vs. Callis’ new man, Will Ospreay, at Forbidden Door - and Sanada vs. Adam Page for the IWGP World Title??

MJF vs. Darby Allin vs. Jungle Boy vs. Sammy Guevara

Appalling build, confusing build - most of these guys’ promo time has been spent talking about the company is run to the ground, followed by yet another whine. I’m glad to see the back of this. MJF wins.
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I would say thats the specific reason they’re not calling it “Lights Out”, because if they did it would have to close the show based off previous logic. On this show it’ll probably be in the middle of the show or towards the end, but not the closer.
I would think TK would want to keep a bit of distance between this match and Anarchy in the Arena. One probably goes earlier and one a bit later.
I would think TK would want to keep a bit of distance between this match and Anarchy in the Arena. One probably goes earlier and one a bit later.
That does get me thinking on what the match order could be for the show. This is my best guess:

1. TNT Championship Ladder Match: Wardlow vs. Christian
2. TBS Championship: Taya Valkyrie vs. Jade Cargill
3. Anarchy in the Arena: The Elite vs. The Blackpool Combat Club
4. International Championship Blackjack Battle Royal
5. AEW Tag Team Championship: Jeff Jarrett & Jay Lethal vs. FTR
6. Unsanctioned Match: Chris Jericho vs. Adam Cole
7. AEW Women’s Championship: Toni Storm vs. Jamie Hayter
8. AEW World Championship: Jack Perry vs. Sammy Guevara vs. Darby Allin vs. MJF


I can never really guess on how AEW will format their PPVs, because it always seems weird the way they do it. Like the Elite last year had 2 PPVs where they were in the 2nd match of the night.

Jade's matches usually happen early in the night, almost always having to follow a hot match and having no chance of doing so. I could honestly see them doing something like AITA right before Jade's match. Stick the Tag Title match and the Battle Royal in the middle of the show. My guess is AITA will happen closer to the beginning of the show and the Unsanctioned match closer to the end, but I could be wrong. And I assume the Women's Title match is 2nd to last simply because I don't know what form that match will take. If they end up doing more of an angle than a match then right before the main event is a decent spot for it.
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That does get me thinking on what the match order could be for the show. This is my best guess:

1. TNT Championship Ladder Match: Wardlow vs. Christian
2. TBS Championship: Taya Valkyrie vs. Jade Cargill
3. Anarchy in the Arena: The Elite vs. The Blackpool Combat Club
4. International Championship Blackjack Battle Royal
5. AEW Tag Team Championship: Jeff Jarrett & Jay Lethal vs. FTR
6. Unsanctioned Match: Chris Jericho vs. Adam Cole
7. AEW Women’s Championship: Toni Storm vs. Jamie Hayter
8. AEW World Championship: Jack Perry vs. Sammy Guevara vs. Darby Allin vs. MJF


I can never really guess on how AEW will format their PPVs, because it always seems weird the way they do it. Like the Elite last year had 2 PPVs where they were in the 2nd match of the night.

Jade's matches usually happen early in the night, almost always having to follow a hot match and having no chance of doing so. I could honestly see them doing something like AITA right before Jade's match. Stick the Tag Title match and the Battle Royal in the middle of the show. My guess is AITA will happen closer to the beginning of the show and the Unsanctioned match closer to the end, but I could be wrong. And I assume the Women's Title match is 2nd to last simply because I don't know what form that match will take. If they end up doing more of an angle than a match then right before the main event is a decent spot for it.
I think it's going to look like

1-Wardlow VS Christian
2-Trios Title match
3-Jade VS Taya
4-Jericho VS Cole
5-Battle Royal
6-Toni Storm VS Jamie Hayter
7-Anarchy in the Arena
8-FTR VS Lethal/Jarrett
9-Four Pillars World Title Match

But I'm not too good at predicting the match order so lol.

I do think one wouldn't want Jericho/Cole and the Tag Title match to follow each other either given one has a special guest enforcer and the other a special guest referee.
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Switchblade needs to rep NZ and win the gold. If they split the rosters, and with Collision being on TNT, I'm assuming the titles will be broken down as:

Dynamite
TBS Women's Title
AEW International Title
AEW Tag Titles

Collision
AEW Women's Title
AEW Trios Titles
TNT Title

The AEW World Champion can float between BOTH shows.

With Jay White being from NZ, he's the perfect guy to make the International Title a prestigious/credible/semi-main event level title going into the split. But what will most likely happen is Jay and Starks eliminate each other and brawl up the ramp. :(

The International title should be to Jay White what the TNT title was to Miro and Cody. If TK makes it a true international vs international title, then we could easily see Jay White vs Malakai Black, Chris Jericho, Buddy Matthews, Bandido, Andrade, Ospreay, Takeshita, etc. All of these feuds would fit the home country vs home country mould that the Intl Title was supposed to fit in the first place.

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Switchblade needs to rep NZ and win the gold. If they split the rosters, and with Collision being on TNT, I'm assuming the titles will be broken down as:

Dynamite
TBS Women's Title
AEW International Title
AEW Tag Titles

Collision
AEW Women's Title
AEW Trios Titles
TNT Title

The AEW World Champion can float between BOTH shows.

With Jay White being from NZ, he's the perfect guy to make the International Title a prestigious/credible/semi-main event level title going into the split. But what will most likely happen is Jay and Starks eliminate each other and brawl up the ramp. :(

The International title should be to Jay White what the TNT title was to Miro and Cody. If TK makes it a true international vs international title, then we could easily see Jay White vs Malakai Black, Chris Jericho, Buddy Matthews, Bandido, Andrade, Ospreay, Takeshita, etc. All of these feuds would fit the home country vs home country mould that the Intl Title was supposed to fit in the first place.

I can't believe they're just gonna eliminate him from a geek battle royal in his first PPV. If he's not winning it he needs to not be In it. Visuals matter. If he ain't winning it, don't put him in it.
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All I want is somebody lay out Taya pre-PPV, so an alien can take the belt from Jade.
All I want is somebody lay out Taya pre-PPV, so an alien can take the belt from Jade.
FWIW : saw someone on SC point out that Taya wore black and green on Wednesday.... like the Outcasts. And they predicted it was tell, that Taya would be going over with help from the Outcasts setting Jade up for a face turn and to side with The Originals.
I can't believe they're just gonna eliminate him from a geek battle royal in his first PPV. If he's not winning it he needs to not be In it. Visuals matter. If he ain't winning it, don't put him in it.
please, the dope can go out first
I can't believe they're just gonna eliminate him from a geek battle royal in his first PPV. If he's not winning it he needs to not be In it. Visuals matter. If he ain't winning it, don't put him in it.
I guess it's plausible that Starks and Jay White will be involved in each other's eliminations
I guess it's plausible that Starks and Jay White will be involved in each other's eliminations

So what? He's still getting tossed out in a nerd battle royal for a nerd belt held by a nerd. That's not what you do with top guys. If he's not winning it, leave him off the card. Or open up 10 minutes for him vs. Starks 2, like they couldn't afford that or something.
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I’m just glad there’s gonna be a decent crowd :D
I’m just glad there’s gonna be a decent crowd :D
Not a sell out or close to it like previous years at same arena.
Not a sell out or close to it like previous years at same arena.
I don’t care :ROFLMAO:
Just ordered it, though reluctantly as I'm not overly hyped compared to most past AEW PPVs. People were iffy on the last one, but it had two matches (MJF vs. Danielson, Mox vs. Hangman) that I knew would deliver big time. Only Anarchy in the Arena really excites me, though I think there could be a raft of good matches.

The reason I gave in is because of FITE's AEW PPV bundle deal they have going on, with DoN, Forbidden Door, All Out and Full Gear working out at $18/£15 per PPV.

If matches like Mox vs. Okada happen at Forbidden Door, then I'll not regret this purchase.
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Not a sell out or close to it like previous years at same arena.
According to what 3venflow posted a page back, they are at 10k distributed and have a setup for 11600 so actually they would close to it if that's accurate.
Just ordered it, though reluctantly as I'm not overly hyped compared to most past AEW PPVs. People were iffy on the last one, but it had two matches (MJF vs. Danielson, Mox vs. Hangman) that I knew would deliver big time. Only Anarchy in the Arena really excites me, though I think there could be a raft of good matches.

The reason I gave in is because of FITE's AEW PPV bundle deal they have going on, with DoN, Forbidden Door, All Out and Full Gear working out at $18/£15 per PPV.

If matches like Mox vs. Okada happen at Forbidden Door, then I'll not regret this purchase.
yeah…. The fite bundle deal looks the way to go for sure

shame ALL IN is not in there, but we’ll see
yeah…. The fite bundle deal looks the way to go for sure

shame ALL IN is not in there, but we’ll see
Tony said the other day he still isn't sure how All In will air. The UK start time is going to greatly impact US PPV sales, so the buyrate will likely below average. I guess the only alternatives are an ad-heavy show on TNT/TBS or try and get it on Max (airing on FITE in markets without Max).
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