AEW Double or Nothing PPV Discussion Thread - Sun, May 28, 2023

3venflow said:

Competitors in the Blackjack Battle Royal. If OC isn't winning, I could see it coming down to Starks and Jay. You can rule out everyone winning except OC, Jay White, Starks or Swerve I think.

1. Orange Cassidy (c)
2. The Butcher
3. The Blade
4. Bandido
5. Komander
6. Lee Moriarty
7. Big Bill
8. Ari Daivari
9. Tony Nese
10. Chuckie T
11. Trent
12. Kip Sabian
13. Rey Fenix
14. Penta El Zero Miedo
15. Swerve Strickland
16. Brian Cage
17. Ricky Starks
18. Jay White
19. Juice Robinson
20. Keith Lee
21. Dustin Rhodes

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They announced the full list?? Surprising as I expected a surprise or two here.

3venflow said:

An unsanctioned match with an enforcer? 🤔 Though Sabu appearing popped me and I'm glad to see him get a payday amid his financial issues.

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By the by, the heavily teased Mox vs. Okada match for Forbidden Door feels bigger to me than anything on DoN.

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By all means, the Jericho and Cole feud comes off as a total flop.

3venflow said:

Competitors in the Blackjack Battle Royal. If OC isn't winning, I could see it coming down to Starks and Jay. You can rule out everyone winning except OC, Jay White, Starks or Swerve I think.

1. Orange Cassidy (c)
2. The Butcher
3. The Blade
4. Bandido
5. Komander
6. Lee Moriarty
7. Big Bill
8. Ari Daivari
9. Tony Nese
10. Chuckie T
11. Trent
12. Kip Sabian
13. Rey Fenix
14. Penta El Zero Miedo
15. Swerve Strickland
16. Brian Cage
17. Ricky Starks
18. Jay White
19. Juice Robinson
20. Keith Lee
21. Dustin Rhodes

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If this was TNA I'd expect Swerve and Lee to reunite and cost OC the belt. While never having a singles match!

The question with regards to the Battle Royal is, do you have OC lose the strap in a BR?

Or does he get a lucky win somehow and they use the end of the Battle Royal and or post match to set up a singles match for the fallout Dynamite where he can be pinned for the title?

Either way, hoping the next Champion is either Jay White or Swerve.

Scuba Steve said:

The question with regards to the Battle Royal is, do you have OC lose the strap in a BR?

Or does he get a lucky win somehow and they use the end of the Battle Royal and or post match to set up a singles match for the fallout Dynamite where he can be pinned for the title?

Either way, hoping the next Champion is either Jay White or Swerve.

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Bro Keith Lee and Swerve reunite bro. They'll never see it coming bro.

somerandomfan said:

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Jay, Swerve or Dustin as the dark horse for the Battle Royal. Like already mentioned, Jay White vs Ricky Starks and Swerve vs Lee is 2 potentially good feuds which would benefit the title as its yet to have a proper feud. Whereas, Dustin has said he's retiring this year so one last run but with International title would be fitted for him as a tag title win would of been great with Cody but with Lee, not needed.

OC losing the belt in a Battle Royal would be a great way to keep him "strong" as he won't be pinned to lose and then they could easily move him into future feuds and even a world title match vs MJF over the summer. NJPW does similar booking where a wrestler would lose a mid card belt then they'd challenge for another.

Jay White should definitely win the battle royal. Jay gets thrown out and its a bust.

I mean, I get people pulling for Jay or whoever. But is not a bit weak to have OC, who’s racked up a bunch of wins and held the belt for months, to lose the belt in a match where he doesn’t have to be pinned?

Like I get some are sick of OC, but I feel like it’s kind of a waste if he drops the belt in this match. Someone like Jay pinning OC for the belt means a hell of a lot more than winning a Battle Royal.

TD Stinger said:

I mean, I get people pulling for Jay or whoever. But is not a bit weak to have OC, who’s racked up a bunch of wins and held the belt for months, to lose the belt in a match where he doesn’t have to be pinned?

Like I get some are sick of OC, but I feel like it’s kind of a waste if he drops the belt in this match. Someone like Jay pinning OC for the belt means a hell of a lot more than winning a Battle Royal.

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Anna Jay wins the 21 man Blackjack battle royal 🥵🥵🥵

TD Stinger said:

I mean, I get people pulling for Jay or whoever. But is not a bit weak to have OC, who’s racked up a bunch of wins and held the belt for months, to lose the belt in a match where he doesn’t have to be pinned?

Like I get some are sick of OC, but I feel like it’s kind of a waste if he drops the belt in this match. Someone like Jay pinning OC for the belt means a hell of a lot more than winning a Battle Royal.

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They could easily have OC get a lucky/fluke win in the BR only to be attacked post match and challenged for a singles on Dynamite where he can drop it by pinfall.

Hah. I just rememberd that Action Andretti guy. Couldn't even make a battle royal!

Kenny's Ghost said:

Hah. I just rememberd that Action Andretti guy. Couldn't even make a battle royal!

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He was on Rampage the other week, but he's been mostly moved to ROH, teaming with Darius Martin in a feud with The Kingdom. The teams had a really good Fight Without Honor main event the other week.

It's where he belongs right now really. He's a talented cruiserweight with decent mic skills, but nothing sets him apart... kinda like Blake Christian, except more charismatic.

3venflow said:

He was on Rampage the other week, but he's been mostly moved to ROH, teaming with Darius Martin in a feud with The Kingdom. The teams had a really good Fight Without Honor main event the other week.

It's where he belongs right now really. He's a talented cruiserweight with decent mic skills, but nothing sets him apart... kinda like Blake Christian, except more charismatic.

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He really does remind me of Lash LeRoux, partially due to his appearance.

"While speaking with sources inside AEW regarding the upcoming Double or Nothing PPV this weekend in Las Vegas, Nevada one of the topics discussed was the “Four Pillars” Match for the AEW World Championship. Sources relayed to me that the creative person responsible for writing the storyline for the entire “Four Pillars” World Championship program has been none other than AEW World Champion MJF."

Never let MJF near the book again. If true. 👀

They were right to do the Four Pillars program. It was a fairly well received concept online back when it was but a gleam in the eyes of fans and MJF. It was anticipated by many to be a good idea in theory. People say it is so predictable but such is the case with every title reign. None of the other AEW World champs lost their third defence…well, except CM Punk AEW. Champ version two against Moxley. That was quite the half-baked idea, wasn’t it?

Where they went wrong was doing the four way before the three challengers fought MJF in singles matches. Then they could go back to the other three together and collectively give MJF his toughest challenge yet.

Darby can probably make a case for his own title shot later on. As long as MJF pins one of the other two and Darby looks the best of the three during the four way.
So I guess we can add MJF to the list with Moxley. They have ideas. They just aren’t good ideas the way they have played out on our screens at home.

Kenny's Ghost said:

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AEW’s 2023 Double or Nothing PPV takes place this Sunday May 28th from the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada and will be headlined by a Four-way Match for the AEW World Championship, as MJF defends his title against Darby Allin, Sammy Guevara, and “Jungle Boy” Jack Perry. The build for the...

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"While speaking with sources inside AEW regarding the upcoming Double or Nothing PPV this weekend in Las Vegas, Nevada one of the topics discussed was the “Four Pillars” Match for the AEW World Championship. Sources relayed to me that the creative person responsible for writing the storyline for the entire “Four Pillars” World Championship program has been none other than AEW World Champion MJF."

Never let MJF near the book again. If true. 👀

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I argued in the Dynamite thread that this feud has been booked well, it's just that the cast is not up to A-list standards. No amount of emotional vignettes and plot twists can make me view Sammy and JB as serious PPV contenders for the world title at this juncture. I love Darby and he's one of my favourite performers in AEW, but he's a TV special defense for MJF too.

The Pillars feud has, unlike a lot of world title feuds in the past, had multiple segments on shows, a bunch of lead-in matches, and some tensions/intrigue. The wrestlers have been allowed to explain their backgrounds and motivations. Give the same script to MJF, Punk, Kenny and Moxley, a more legitimate AEW Four Pillars, and it'd be considered a well-booked feud IMO.

This one feels like it should be on the undercard for the AEW World Jr. Heavyweight Title to me (except MJF, who belongs on the top tier).