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Third time should be a charm. What type of measurement do you use to determine if people care about a wrestler?


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Crowd reaction over a period of time, drawing ability, how many fans (ballpark figure) that wrestler has, interest in his/her matches, storylines, and feuds. Off the top of my head, maybe I'm leaving some other aspects out.

I certainly don't use how many posts a hate-thread for that wrestler has on a forum, though.
 

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Bray Wyatt And The Bella Twins Backstage For Tonight's WWE RAW
The Bella Twins and Bray Wyatt are currently backstage at the Staples Center in Los Angeles for tonight's WWE RAW, according to PWInsider.

As noted this past Friday, this is the first time that Wyatt has been at a live RAW taping in some time. There has been a lot of speculation on when WWE will have him make his TV ring return, and that could come this week.

Nikki Bella reportedly lives in Los Angeles these days and could just be backstage visiting.

There's no word yet on if Wyatt or The Bellas will be appearing in front of the crowd at tonight's show, but we'll keep you updated.
Source: https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2019/06/bray-wyatt-and-the-bella-twins-backstage-for-tonight-wwe-raw-655333/
 

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Crowd reaction over a period of time, drawing ability, how many fans (ballpark figure) that wrestler has, interest in his/her matches, storylines, and feuds. Off the top of my head, maybe I'm leaving some other aspects out.



I certainly don't use how many posts a hate-thread for that wrestler has on a forum, though.


Drawing power? So Rollins is the worst champion in modern times then, correct? Seth’s matches aren’t keeping eyes on the product, he’s feuding with Baron Corbin who many can’t stand (not me), and his storyline is that he punches Bork in the balls to win matches.

Lacey matches are the only interesting women matches, she’s in storylines with the top women, and is feuding with the flavor of the week right now. Am I missing something here?


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Another problem with their weekly shows is a lot of people are just randomly fighting there's absolutely no backstory to why the match happens it just happens which is fine I guess we're programmed to see that but I still find it kind of annoying
 

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Drawing power? So Rollins is the worst champion in modern times then, correct? Seth’s matches aren’t keeping eyes on the product, he’s feuding with Baron Corbin who many can’t stand (not me), and his storyline is that he punches Bork in the balls to win matches.

Lacey matches are the only interesting women matches, she’s in storylines with the top women, and is feuding with the flavor of the week right now. Am I missing something here?


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Of course you're missing something here. :lol Because WWE's ratings have been declining for over a decade now. This time next year when someone else is the Champion, the ratings are going to be even lower. :lol There's at least a decade of of data that shows your how WWE's ratings have been declining and NO ONE has stopped the bleeding. Not even the big name part-timers when they're around. And the two 'lowest rated third hours of Raw' you convienently don't bring up how they faced the NBA playoffs and Finals those nights. Legit competition. When Brock was Champ for a year, the ratings were New Generation era level, and now, the next year, on cue, they go down again. And it'll happen next year, too.

"Lacey's matches are the only interesting women's match." I love when people like you think their opinion is literal fact or something. Not to mention, they aren't. No women's matches are interesting right now, either. You say she's feuding with the top women and make it seem like she's on top of the world right now. It's weird how she's doing so great but no one feels compelled to tune into watch her supposed greatness and these great storylines she's involved in.

Amazing.
 

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Bellas about to take the titles from the Iiconics :proud

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I'll be surprised if the Bellas are there more than just to visit backstage since they are supposed to be retired. Bryan is going to be on RAW, RAW is in LA, Bellas stopping in for a visit.
 

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Of course you're missing something here. :lol Because WWE's ratings have been declining for over a decade now. This time next year when someone else is the Champion, the ratings are going to be even lower. :lol There's at least a decade of of data that shows your how WWE's ratings have been declining and NO ONE has stopped the bleeding. Not even the big name part-timers when they're around. And the two 'lowest rated third hours of Raw' you convienently don't bring up how they faced the NBA playoffs and Finals those nights. Legit competition. When Brock was Champ for a year, the ratings were New Generation era level, and now, the next year, on cue, they go down again. And it'll happen next year, too.



"Lacey's matches are the only interesting women's match." I love when people like you think their opinion is literal fact or something. Not to mention, they aren't. No women's matches are interesting right now, either. You say she's feuding with the top women and make it seem like she's on top of the world right now. It's weird how she's doing so great but no one feels compelled to tune into watch her supposed greatness and these great storylines she's involved in.



Amazing.


You’re literally making your opinion fact lololol. The NBA Finals featured a Canadian team and an injury filled team and no Bron. Ratings were way down on it. That doesn’t mean shit. Lacey segments have been the highest rated hours too. See I base my statements with facts rather then fanboyism. Crazy shit my dude.


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You’re literally making your opinion fact lololol. The NBA Finals featured a Canadian team and an injury filled team and no Bron.
Yeah and it still did great numbers and was the NBA Championship. People still tuned in and it still did a great number.

Lacey segments have been the highest rated hours too. See I base my statements which facts rather then fanboyism. Crazy shit my dude.
So, she was in an hour that did the highest. You do know that means shit without having the quarter-hour numbers available to us, right? And there's been plenty of hours where Seth was on-screen for the highest rated hour. Guess he's drawing well then by that logic.

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Yeah and it still did great numbers and was the NBA Championship. People still tuned in and it still did a great number.



So, she was in an hour that did the highest. You do know that means shit without having the quarter-hour numbers available to us, right? And there's been plenty of hours where Seth was on-screen for the highest rated hour. Guess he's drawing well then by that logic.

Holy shit.


Great numbers? You’re making shit up again Jesus Christ do all you Rollins fans just flat out lie?

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-finals-ratings-raptors-canada-022406863.html

Worst in a decade is great to you huh?


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Great numbers? You’re making shit up again Jesus Christ do all you Rollins fans just flat out lie?

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-finals-ratings-raptors-canada-022406863.html

Worst in a decade is great to you huh?


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Are you serious? In today's cable landscape? Game 5 and Game 6 did well over 18 million viewers each. That's a huge number for today's era. Of course it's not as high as previous times. HELL, WWE's show are down from previous times, as well. I think I'm starting to see a pattern here..

The NBA's biggest series of the year is down it's no big deal. WWE's are also down and to some it's on the wrestlers more than the idiot making all of the decisions despite the likes of Punk, Mox, Batista, and others saying it's on Creative. You guys are great. :lmao
 

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Are you serious? In today's cable landscape? Game 5 and Game 6 did well over 18 million viewers each. That's a huge number for today's era. Of course it's not as high as previous times. HELL, WWE's show are down from previous times, as well. I think I'm starting to see a pattern here..

The NBA's biggest series of the year is down it's no big deal. WWE's are also down and to some it's on the wrestlers more than the idiot making all of the decisions despite the likes of Punk, Mox, Batista, and others saying it's on Creative. You guys are great. :lmao


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Don't forget that RAWs that Rollin and Styles headlined also posted the lowest year on year drop off. That means that they had the same competition as the previous year with the NBA, etc. In fact, the NBA playoffs was down this year on last year (around 20% early on in the playoffs). Whereas ratings for TV shows in general are only down 4%. Other sports-related programming such as the NHL have not experienced the drops off that the NBA have experienced, let alone the WWE.



It's mostly about stars. The NBA playoffs didn't feature Lebron this year. And the Warriors somewhat lost their aura when Durant got injured. Whereas WWE doesn't have any stars. And their attempt to turn Rollins into a star has failed because he's not that good of a performer.


Fans weren’t leaving to watch basketball they just weren’t tuning in for Seth.


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Stolen from other thread..





Fans weren’t leaving to watch basketball they just weren’t tuning in for Seth.


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Funny you say that when Raw's lowest numbers over the past couple of months are always when they went up against the NBA Playoffs. I suppose that's coincidence, though. Nor does it even address that WWE's numbers go down every year for a long period of time now. Still never got those things addressed. No offense, but it's hard to take anything seriously when someone attributed an ENTIRE HOUR to one person when we don't have QH's.
 

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Funny you say that when Raw's lowest numbers over the past couple of months are always when they went up against the NBA Playoffs. I suppose that's coincidence, though. Nor does it even address that WWE's numbers go down every year for a long period of time now. Still never got those things addressed. No offense, but it's hard to take anything seriously when someone attributed an ENTIRE HOUR to one person when we don't have QH's.


I’m not using opinions like you I’m simply pointing out facts. Everything I’ve said has a number to back my claim.

Anyhow this show actually doesn’t sound as bad as it has the past few weeks. All of my favorites are advertised except Bork.


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