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post #21 of 112 (permalink) Old 07-26-2019, 12:52 AM
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They're gonna put the gold on Orton. They need a big well-known name for when the FOX deal hits. I don't mind it because I'm done with Kofi as champion. It has lasted a little too long. It shouldn't have gone past 60 days honestly. They're just dragging the shit out.



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Randy to become a 14 time World Champ. The first big World Title feud for when they go on Fox needs the two biggest names, which in this case are Orton & Reigns not a guy who throws pancakes.
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The reign wasn't "terrible" itself though. I wish some of my favorites would be booked that strong. Kofi almost never loses. They built him as a strong champion, which is right in their intent, it's just the talent is wrong. He's just not main event material.

Honestly, his reign is a lot better than AJ Styles's reigns on Smackdown. He actually gets the job done and pins people, unlike AJ, who while being the top babyface on the brand couldn't finish a match clean to save his life.
Being booked strongly alone is not enough for a reign to be good. His character just could not be taken seriously and his promos were mediocre. In almost every promo of his, he sounded like he had just won the title yesterday. There was no change in his personality or character. He was dancing around and throwing pancakes like always.

The problem with AJ's title defenses was that they refused to move on to new challengers and they thought of dragging feuds for months, which is why they needed the finishes to not be clean so they could continue the feuds. He was champ for more than an year yet the list of his opponents was so small. Ideally, he should have also feuded with Miz and Orton.
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post #24 of 112 (permalink) Old 07-26-2019, 01:36 AM
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WWE fans on this forum are so disconnected from the wider audience it's hilarious. The majority of WWE fans love Kofi Kingston and have been satisfied with his WWE Championship reign. I know it baffles you how over Kofi really is but people do enjoy having fun with goofy colorful characters on this silly wrestling show. Kofi continues to get some of the best crowd reactions every night. Kofi continues selling merch like crazy. Hell, I just bought a damn New Day t-shirt myself! Kofi consistently delivers good matches and promos every night. Kofi is properly booked as a strong, credible World Heavyweight Champion and that is a big deal. Kofi is a good WWE Champion so I just have to laugh at you guys calling for Randy Orton of all people to hold the title again.

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Being booked strongly alone is not enough for a reign to be good. His character just could not be taken seriously and his promos were mediocre. In almost every promo of his, he sounded like he had just won the title yesterday. There was no change in his personality or character. He was dancing around and throwing pancakes like always.

The problem with AJ's title defenses was that they refused to move on to new challengers and they thought of dragging feuds for months, which is why they needed the finishes to not be clean so they could continue the feuds. He was champ for more than an year yet the list of his opponents was so small. Ideally, he should have also feuded with Miz and Orton.
Well that's what I'm talking about, the booking. Don't get me wrong, there's no denying Kofi is terrible, but I can't say he was booked awful. He was booked to win, that's a lot more that most recent champions can say. As far as not tweaking his character, well that's a problem with WWE, they do this shit all the time. If you're gimmick is that you're a pancake throwing goofball, then you are that man and nothing changes it. Vince likes his comedy characters to stay that way, there's one problem of course - a guy like that has no business in main events. Back to the point - yes, but we've a had worse reigns in recent years. At least this time they try to make a credible champion.

This whole Kofi as champion thing baffles me, anyway. Why do they suddenly have so much FAITH in him? They never book champions this strong (except for Brock), but all of a sudden it's a good booking with constant wins and no ending to it. There's no plan for him right now, they just do filler after filler. I doubt Orton wins, there's no point. He's not a "star" that they would want to headline SD on FOX. If anybody, it could've been Reigns. But I don't think he's taking the top title from babyface. That's why it's definitely possible that Shane will take the belt in the future. As if it couldn't get worse. Part of me thinks Vince just shoves Kofi down everybody's throats, with no progress or edge to his character, so he can then later say - "see? ya'll hate him now! I listened to the fans and now you hate him, so I was always right".

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WWE fans on this forum are so disconnected from the wider audience it's hilarious. The majority of WWE fans love Kofi Kingston and have been satisfied with his WWE Championship reign. I know it baffles you how over Kofi actually is but people do enjoy having fun with goofy colorful characters on this silly wrestling show. Kofi continues to get some of the best reactions every night. Kofi continues selling merch like crazy. I just bought a damn New Day t-shirt! And Kofi continues to deliver good matches and promos every night. Kofi is a good WWE Champion and I just have to laugh at you guys calling for Randy Orton of all people to hold the title again.
Never said Kofi is not popular. He's just not a personal favourite of mine and I don't enjoy him as a performer. I don't speak for all.

Randy Orton is popular as well if you consider the wider audience. He gets great reactions every time he's on. And he is my all-time favourite wrestler, so I personally would be thrilled to see him win the title.

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I'm not a huge Randy fan but he needs to win(he wont though) Kofi's reign has midcarded the title SO HARD.

None of his feuds felt like WORLD title feuds. more like IC title feuds. Randy winning would at least change that.
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Iíve never been a Randy Orton fan but anything to get the belt off this Uber-geek, wannabe unicorn clown.

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Kofi Should retain save his loss for the Fox debut to Wyatt. Then build toward Owens vs Wyatt at Mania
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WWE fans on this forum are so disconnected from the wider audience it's hilarious. The majority of WWE fans love Kofi Kingston and have been satisfied with his WWE Championship reign. I know it baffles you how over Kofi really is but people do enjoy having fun with goofy colorful characters on this silly wrestling show. Kofi continues to get some of the best crowd reactions every night. Kofi continues selling merch like crazy. Hell, I just bought a damn New Day t-shirt myself! Kofi consistently delivers good matches and promos every night. Kofi is properly booked as a strong, credible World Heavyweight Champion and that is a big deal. Kofi is a good WWE Champion so I just have to laugh at you guys calling for Randy Orton of all people to hold the title again.
That's just straight up wrong, his string of PPV World title defenses are some of the worst a world champion has had in recent memory. Shit matches with Ziggler and Joe, and one decent match with Owens.

Compare AJ's matches with Joe to Kofi's match with Joe, night and fucking day.
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