Originally Posted by Bret “Hitman” Hart
He lost the dressing room, so he had to be sacked.
Lost the dressing room, the fans, and won nothing.
Man Utd were a great team - they got 89 points and were in the final two years prior.
They were carried to that title by RVP. As soon as they lost the greatest manager of all time, they looked absolutely hopeless. Even the biggest Moyes critics wouldn't tell you he was left with a great team.
The point was they lost by one goal on aggregate, so “smashing” is an exaggeration.
They were 4-1 down until the very end of the second leg.
The point about them holding dominance since the turn of millennium was what I was sceptical of. They were in the second division in 2000 and only got good in the early 2010’s. They beat Real the following season to the league. Comparing AM of 2000 to AM of 2013 doesn’t hold water.
There's dominance, and then there's 13 years without losing to your big city rivals, only to then lose in the cup final in your own ground.
Atletico weren't what they are now but they weren't bums either, they were a CL team at the end of the noughties, they won the Europa League a couple of years prior as well and followed it up with beating the treble winning Inter team for the Super Cup.
That was the Madrid board’s decision and they are known for being erratic at the best of times.
You said at the start of this post he had to be sacked?
Perez loved Mourinho btw, but took the only logical decision.
I'm not sure how well you followed Madrid that season at the time, but it was an absolutely awful time for them, as outlined in my original post. Shame really as since then they've raked in silverware.
As an aside, going back to the original point. It turns out Jose won the CL in his third season at Porto; so that’s a
third season a 7/10 third season and two
Hardly something to draw long terms conclusions from
I wasn't drawing conclusions, I was just pointing out the third season at Madrid wasn't "perfectly acceptable", no matter how you look at it.
We'll have to wait and see how this season goes. Where do you expect Man Utd to finish?