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Not a fan of having such stringent weight classes. Having so many divisions just encourages people to push themselves to go as far below their natural weight as possible to gain an advantage. There should be 3-4 weight classes max imho. Something like 150,180,210 and 211+.
This is dense as shit because you would have more fighters struggling to make weight. More weight categories means more fighters have more weight divisions within easy reach. What is a natural 170lb welterweight going to do if things were done your way? Near kill himself cutting down to 150 or eat extra cheeseburgers and put weights in his pants to make 180?

The whole point of more weight categories is to remove the need for excessive weight cuts.
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Not a fan of having such stringent weight classes. Having so many divisions just encourages people to push themselves to go as far below their natural weight as possible to gain an advantage. There should be 3-4 weight classes max imho. Something like 150,180,210 and 211+.
That seems like an awful idea, 30 pound differences ? No thanks

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What is a natural 170lb welterweight going to do if things were done your way? Near kill himself cutting down to 150 or eat extra cheeseburgers and put weights in his pants to make 180?
Uhh...fight in the 150-179lb division?

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That seems like an awful idea, 30 pound differences ? No thanks
The HW division already has that, even bigger disparities in some cases. Prides weight divisions were pretty close to that too, and obviously it was the norm in the early days of the UFC. Its also easier and safer to slowly bulk up to be near the higher end of your natural weight class than it is to cut insane amounts of weight in a short space of time.

Having so many weight classes in relatively close proximity to each other just encourages fighters to compete as far below their natural weight as they can get away with. And of course it also creates more opportunity for fighters to screw up and miss weight.
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Uhh...fight in the 150-179lb division?
You didn't make your upper/lower weight distinctions clear.

But I think the 10 pounds per weight class is fine. Yeah you'd need to adjusted the scales a bit going up. But I think what needs to happen is real punishments for being over weight. Maybe start banning fights for 3 to 5 months might get people back on track. It's gotten pretty ridiculous at this point.
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The HW division already has that, even bigger disparities in some cases. Prides weight divisions were pretty close to that too, and obviously it was the norm in the early days of the UFC. Its also easier and safer to slowly bulk up to be near the higher end of your natural weight class than it is to cut insane amounts of weight in a short space of time.

Having so many weight classes in relatively close proximity to each other just encourages fighters to compete as far below their natural weight as they can get away with. And of course it also creates more opportunity for fighters to screw up and miss weight.
Any sane person could see that a 260 pound man fighting a 240 pound man is not the same as 160 man fighting a 130 pound man.

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Any sane person could see that a 260 pound man fighting a 240 pound man is not the same as 160 man fighting a 130 pound man.
Its technically possible for a 206lb man to fight an (officially) 265lb man under the current rules, and then when you factor in that some guys cut to make that it can go up into the 280s come fight time (Brock for example). And this is in a division that historically has the highest KO percentage. Not sure why thats less outrageous than two fighters on the manlet spectrum competing against each other. Besides, I didnt mention 130-160, the weight classes I suggested are pretty close to Prides WW, MW and HW divisions.


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Its technically possible for a 206lb man to fight an (officially) 265lb man under the current rules, and then when you factor in that some guys cut to make that it can go up into the 280s come fight time (Brock for example). And this is in a division that historically has the highest KO percentage. Not sure why thats less outrageous than two fighters on the manlet spectrum competing against each other. Besides, I didnt mention 130-160, the weight classes I suggested are pretty close to Prides WW, MW and HW divisions.


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You said 150, 180, 210, those are 30 pound increments






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Yair Rodriguez has been reinstated and has verbally agreed to fight Zabit at UFC 228.



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