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post #71 of 669 (permalink) Old 08-14-2017, 05:53 PM
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Genuinely thought Derby looked a poor side against us (and i honestly expected us to lose beforehand, especially after going behind) and we definitely had the better of them for the first hour or so (not making any changes was weird and opened us up to late chances) so if that's the best team in player quality thats a worry for the standards of the league. Especially when they've lost two of their better players and not bought improvements to take their place. I'd say your lot have a better team man for man, hernandez is a brilliant championship striker and if you can keep hold of grosicki that's a wicked playmaker at this level

The pessimism ingrained in me as a sunderland fan refuses to get carried away after a decent start, but it'll be interesting to see how we fare in the next two games against sheff wed and leeds. Another four points and i'd be pleasantly surprised (and absolutely delighted), but the fact Grayson already seems to have a group of players who give their all in every game so far is enough for me and gives me hope we'll be ok this season. Maybe we'll even win more than we lose, which is a novel idea.
I didn't see the game, but I'll take your word for that. The standards are hardly high when McCarthy's Ipswich can usually get near the play-offs with their L1 quality squad. Hernandez is awesome in the Champs, should be getting 25 goals at least. Grosicki is great too.

My main issue with Grayson is that he should have been doing much better with the Leeds squad when he was manager. It was one of the strongest Champs cohorts ever. Sunderland are pretty average for the Champs but should be in the top half and have a positive win/loss.

Seb, I assume you have Iniesta, Ribery and Messi for those years.
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Messi won’t leave Barca but he’ll have the privilege to play alongside Paulinho

In all seriousness I thought he was visibly mad when the game was over looking at Bartomeu. He has the power to ask publicly the fans to support the motion of censure and sack the current board. Socios will be insane to turn their backs at their best player. That might be the best option seeing how Barto/current board have done shady things to remain in the power for far more long than they should.

Bartomeu is too obvious now but it’s alarming to see how passive the socios are right now. They are the ones to blame when they voted for Rosell and the current board when they had reasons telling them not to. But leaving aside the political views of the socios it seems like they got too comfortable thinking with Messi would be enough to win more trophies.

And while I’m not surprised by the ineptitude of the current board it amazes me how Barca could have extended their dominance for more years had they signed Modric, Kross, Isco and Asensio. It would have changed Madrid current success for sure even when we have changed our policy of signings.

Asensio was only 4.5 million but they wanted to split the amount that is just ridiculous.

They have done everything so wrong from youth teams slowly changing the style of play to let some of the best players go. Barca B stopped being the platform to showcase academy players now only a few gets promoted or given the chance. The finances are bad and on top of that they even brought back the ultras. How the socios are okay with that and many other things is just perplexing.

Btw is this Barca heading to an even worse age than that Barca under Gaspart?
Asensio is the really maddening one at 4 million. Kroos was possible but the board ignored him and instead signed Alex Song.

Messi has the clout to influence change but i'm not sure that's the sort of thing he would get involved in. Things are bad but they're nowhere near the Gaspart years yet. I hope Laporta runs again but he ran last time and the socios ignored him because Barto promised Arda Turan and had just won the treble.

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I didn't see the game, but I'll take your word for that. The standards are hardly high when McCarthy's Ipswich can usually get near the play-offs with their L1 quality squad. Hernandez is awesome in the Champs, should be getting 25 goals at least. Grosicki is great too.

My main issue with Grayson is that he should have been doing much better with the Leeds squad when he was manager. It was one of the strongest Champs cohorts ever. Sunderland are pretty average for the Champs but should be in the top half and have a positive win/loss.

Seb, I assume you have Iniesta, Ribery and Messi for those years.
Xavi, Ribery, Messi.

Iniesta missed a big chunk of the 09/10 season with injury after he played the 2009 Champions League final on basically one leg.
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Based on yesterday's showing, I would be shocked if Wolves don't get promoted. They are the best side in the league. Santo is a pretty good manager.
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Thoroughly predictable.

Board is a disgrace, Valverde comes across as a yes man. Nothing will change.

Mascherano starting in a back three. Gomes starting in a Clasico. Roberto shoved back on the wing.

Midfield has been neglected for years and the price is now being paid. Sorely short with Iniesta in the team, a total shambles without him. Paulinho to come.

Coutinho and/or Dembele (who admittedly is a phenomenal talent) won't be solving the problems either. Another season of over-reliance on Messi to do everything.

Fair play to Madrid, they've smelt blood and been absolutely relentless. Modric has made Gomes look like a lost schoolboy.

Could've had Asensio for 4 million, turned him down. Didn't go for Modric and Kroos (both were keen on Barca), now they're running rings around every midfield in Europe and keeping Madrid looking just as good no matter what combination of their 7 or 8 attackers they play in the front 3. Thiago sold for peanuts and missed now more than ever. Blunder after blunder.
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