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post #21 of 54 (permalink) Old 10-09-2019, 02:13 PM
 
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Re: Brock has full control of his creative direction, not Vince: WOR

Meltzer is contradicting his own words from last year here. (Unless I've confused him with someone else.) But wasn't he the one who reported after WM34 that Brock was upset with the ending of his match with Reigns since he was ready to drop the belt, and Vince wanted to him keep it, hence why we had the whole thing with throwing the belt at Vince backstage?

So Brock didn't call the shot when it came to the most important match he's been involved in years, but the rest of the time, apparently he has more control than Vince? I find that doubtful.

Like don't get me wrong, I'm sure Brock has a degree of control. We know this by Jericho's own words from years ago because it was due to Brock that Goldberg/Brock at Mania involved the Universal title, since originally the Universal title match was going to be Owens/Jericho. But Brock also clearly does not have complete control where Vince can't ultimately do what he wants. I'm sure it's more of a synergy at play here, and Vince tries to keep Brock happy, but it's clear Vince can indeed do what he wants at the end of the day.
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He's probably the reason Bray didn't win the title, because Brock wouldn't work with him at Survivor Series because he wasn't gonna allow Bray to no sell all his shit and make him look like a god damn moron.
Doubt it. Bray was never winning the title. You’ve said so yourself dozens of times. McMahon just doesn’t want to put the title on him. Plus, the Survivor Series champion vs champion match isn’t even set in stone. In the scenario you propose it would’ve just been easier to not book a champion vs champion match than to scrap any plans of putting the title on Bray Wyatt.
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Re: Brock has full control of his creative direction, not Vince: WOR

Of course he does. What Moxley said was correct



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Re: Brock has full control of his creative direction, not Vince: WOR

He's got plenty of pull.


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Re: Brock has full control of his creative direction, not Vince: WOR

This was clear when he had Jinder buried. I bet Kofi lost in 7 seconds because Brock refused to sell for the pancake and hip swiveling guy.
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Re: Brock has full control of his creative direction, not Vince: WOR

Interesting if true.
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Re: Brock has full control of his creative direction, not Vince: WOR

Brock and vince are lovers, you know. Vince and brock, Brock and vince, they love eachother very much, you know. even when they dont agree on things its still Brock and vince, you know, vince and brock. like it or not its always been vince and brock. ya know?!

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Re: Brock has full control of his creative direction, not Vince: WOR

Not buying it. At least not in itīs literal wording. Nobody have full creative control in WWE. Not even Lesnar... I do belive he has a lot of creative freedom and creative input, and the stories a few years ago was that WWE presented him with some options for possible opponents, and he then picked the ones he liked. But thatīs not control, if he had control, he could dictate who, when, and how he would beat anyone he wanted to... Why even take a loss at all then?
If Vince REALLY wants Lesnar to do something, heīll do it.
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Re: Brock has full control of his creative direction, not Vince: WOR

I don't believe it.

Brock's a star and has a say, obviously, but, except from the Jinder match at SS, there was no single instance where I thought that it was Brock's and not WWE's decision for him to go over.
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