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The whole idea in this match was getting The Fiend over as some supernatural being that feels no pain. It's the character they're building. I can see how people that prefer the realistic wrestling style would see this as stupid ... but personally, I am all for crazy, OTT characters in wrestling.
I like the character, but I don't think the character requires being able to shrug off 20 curb stomps. I don't mind stretching reality to some extent, it is pro wrestling after all. If this stuff was totally realistic, people would be getting killed in the ring routinely from some of the moves that are delivered, or at least paralyzed for life. But they took it way, way too far.

I also disagree that the Fiend character has to be supernatural. He could just be a demented aspect of Bray Wyatt's personality.
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His gimmick is basically a scary clown. Should that be someone pushed and able to no sell everything. He's awful.
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The Fiend is Bray Wyatt in a mask.. We all know that. I don't see why so many people think the Fiend is cool. It's just the look, not the promos or wrestling.


But since he is over with so many... and to answer the question of if he is finished... No. He doesn't have to be. He also doesn't need a belt. Just put him over against a bunch of mid carders. It's not a bad thing. He wins and wins and wins. Much much later talk about a belt. For now just enjoy the visual of The Fiend winning.

I've said I would have Bray Wyatt versus these mid carders and when he wins he wins.... when he loses have The Fiend come in and destroy.

The Fiend is not a champion. You're just disappointed in the current roster.
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The Fiend is Bray Wyatt in a mask.. We all know that. I don't see why so many people think the Fiend is cool. It's just the look, not the promos or wrestling.


But since he is over with so many... and to answer the question of if he is finished... No. He doesn't have to be. He also doesn't need a belt. Just put him over against a bunch of mid carders. It's not a bad thing. He wins and wins and wins. Much much later talk about a belt. For now just enjoy the visual of The Fiend winning.

I've said I would have Bray Wyatt versus these mid carders and when he wins he wins.... when he loses have The Fiend come in and destroy.

The Fiend is not a champion. You're just disappointed in the current roster.
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He was too over. Vince doesn't like that. Otherwise Braun would have been champion ages ago.
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I wouldn't say The Fiend is ruined, but WWE definitely ruined PPVs and Hell in a Cell forever.

Why the fuck should I ever get excited about so and so winning the title ever again when I know WWE will find some way to bullshit their way out of it when the time comes?

Lets not forget, what they pulled on Sunday is not the first time they've done shit like this. This is probably the most egregious I've seen from them, but there are guys that get over all the time and they pull the rug out from under them. Look at Braun Strowman as a more recent example.

Jesus Christ. That ending was so bad, I feel like they owe WCW an apology for all the times they made fun of them. Fucking hell.

And to the people arguing that The Fiend can never win the belt and he shouldn't be champion, okay, even if you are right, that still begs the question why they booked the fucking match in the first place. No matter how you slice it, it is a major fuck up on WWE's part, and they deserve the shit they are getting for it.
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I wouldn't say The Fiend is ruined, but WWE definitely ruined PPVs and Hell in a Cell forever.

Why the fuck should I ever get excited about so and so winning the title ever again when I know WWE will find some way to bullshit their way out of it when the time comes?

Lets not forget, what they pulled on Sunday is not the first time they've done shit like this. This is probably the most egregious I've seen from them, but there are guys that get over all the time and they pull the rug out from under them. Look at Braun Strowman as a more recent example.

Jesus Christ. That ending was so bad, I feel like they owe WCW an apology for all the times they made fun of them. Fucking hell.

And to the people arguing that The Fiend can never win the belt and he shouldn't be champion, okay, even if you are right, that still begs the question why they booked the fucking match in the first place. No matter how you slice it, it is a major fuck up on WWE's part, and they deserve the shit they are getting for it.
Hahahahaha. Priceless.

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My problem with Bray Wyatt is... he's too gimmicky. People complain about WWE wrestlers nowadays don't have a gimmick, but this guy is extreme on the other side; his gimmick is a bit too extreme and that's not a good thing.

Like... why did they make that match covered in red lights? Why couldn't they just let them wrestle normally instead of doing that stupid storytelling about how he feels no pain? I'm not watching a horror film, FFS.

And all of Bray Wyatt's feuds are like that. The wrestler he's feuding with never get to shine or develop their own character or story, they all have to play along with Wyatt's (stupid) gimmick. That's why I hate it when my favorite wrestlers have a feud with Bray. Bray will drag everybody he's feuding with down the toilet with him. He made everybody look bad, even when his opponent beats him and wins the feud, including Cena, Cena won, but he looked like a fool getting scared by some children. So this Bray Wyatt character is the most USELESS character on the roster. He himself cannot develop further, and he also made people who feud with him look bad.
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It's hard to even imagine the idea of him not being done, because after what they did last night, and especially including that little write up they did on WWE.com essentially saying "Bray doesn't give a fuck about the championship. He wanted to hurt Seth and he did so he's happy", it pretty much crystallizes in peoples minds that Vince McMahon does not believe this character and performer either deserves or is fitting of being the champion, and if Vince doesn't believe in him being champion, then how can a fan feel like they're on a journey with Bray, watching him get to the end of the finish line? There is NO finish line. There is no destination point for the character and everyone knows it now. Any time he's in a world title match, people are gonna go "It's Bray Wyatt, he's not winning. They'll do some bullshit to keep the belt off him because Vince doesn't think he should be the champion." That leads to people checking out of this character. I mean, why would you cheer somebody if the company isn't gonna do anything with them? That's what killed Zack Ryder, people just wised up to the idea that they were never gonna do anything with him and stopped caring. He got over, the fans TRIED to make him the champion, and it failed. He's done.
And this is why you and I and a few others were beating the drum so loudly before the match, that ANY outcome other than a Wyatt title win would be the beginning of the end of that character.

I repeatedly brought up the similarities not just to the Reigns/Strowman crap from last year, but to Punk/Ryback from 2011. Wyatt marks the third character in the exact same scenario:

A hot challenger who's over with the fans and hasn't won the title before (yes, I know, Wyatt won it in 2017, but this is basically a new character so that doesn't matter) running up against an established, top-of-the-company champion and a Cell match on tap because, you know, October. And, in every case, the failure to win the title because of a fuck finish left three different characters (Wyatt, Strowman, and Ryback) dead in the water.

They just don't learn. This should have never been booked as a Cell match; it was booked as such to take advantage of the fans' belief in the rules of the match THAT WWE CREATED AND ESTABLISHED IN THEIR UNIVERSE, that we've got to have an ending. They fucked over the fans yet again, and at the worst possible time for such a move. I'm not an AEW sympathizer, but I really hope WWE pays for this one.
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