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oof. too bad, her tag matches with blisscross were gr8. and she has some great offense, particularly kicks, it's very fun watching her. i guess they have so many people they can't use them all.

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i guess they have so many people they can't use them all.
Yeah, and they all just coincidentally happen to be Japanese. Strange, isn't it?

FFS, if they can find tv time for Drake Maverick, they can find some for the Kabuki Warriors. Don't give me this "too many people to use" shit. They use Erick Rowan. You're acting like the whole roster is full of Asukas and Kairis.


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She comes to the ring dressed as a pirate holding a steering wheel to a boat even though there’s no boat. This gimmick would be god awful in the early 90’s, let alone 2019.
Talking about gimmicks making sense in pro wrestling
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Would he rather she came out like a bland woman wrestler with no visible personality whatsoever? There's plenty of those already. It only helps that she has a character she identifies with, she already speaks little English so what does everyone here think would happen if they took her visible effect away?

And yes, her gimmick is supposed to be to a great degree, unapologetically cute and benevolent, yet brave and tough white-clad seafarer on a neverending voyage to prizes and fortune.

She comes from a land where cuteness and cosplay is the popular norm and understands that pro wrestling is also showbusiness.

The Undertaker, for over 30+ years came out in a big black coat and hat and sometimes a casket wheeled down the aisle while smoke rose in the air and took a gimmick far into what would be considered extraordinary and made a legacy of it. This is the perfect place to be a pirate with a fluffy hat and wooden wheel.
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Would he rather she came out like a bland woman wrestler with no visible personality whatsoever? There's plenty of those already. It only helps that she has a character she identifies with, she already speaks little English so what does everyone here think would happen if they took her visible effect away?



And yes, her gimmick is supposed to be to a great degree, unapologetically cute and benevolent, yet brave and tough white-clad seafarer on a neverending voyage to prizes and fortune.



She comes from a land where cuteness and cosplay is the popular norm and understands that pro wrestling is also showbusiness.



The Undertaker, for over 30+ years came out in a big black coat and hat and sometimes a casket wheeled down the aisle while smoke rose in the air and took a gimmick far into what would be considered extraordinary and made a legacy of it. This is the perfect place to be a pirate with a fluffy hat and wooden wheel.


I wasn’t going to jump in here, but excusing her terrible gimmick for reasoning “it works in Japan” is laughable. The pirate shit is the worst gimmick on the main roster. The whole Japanese anime type culture doesn’t work in American wrestling. Just because there’s a niche group of fans who enjoy it, for the most part many just don’t and will not.


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Honestly her best hope at this point is things shake up better for her after the Draft next month. But honestly her ceiling right now is probably just being the next Ember Moon. A woman who featured here and there and will get to have a good match here and there but someone they never really plan for.

Honestly might as well just put her back on NXT if nothing changes soon. They could use some help.

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I love how some people are surprised by this. how did people not see this coming?
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I wasn’t going to jump in here, but excusing her terrible gimmick for reasoning “it works in Japan” is laughable. The pirate shit is the worst gimmick on the main roster. The whole Japanese anime type culture doesn’t work in American wrestling. Just because there’s a niche group of fans who enjoy it, for the most part many just don’t and will not.


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We're talking about a sport where a guy dressed as a bartender wrestles a man in underwear, wearing demon paint. Blaming the gimmick, which is practically just part of her entrance, doesn't justify her not being pushed. I understand that it doesn't appeal to everyone but I think that has little to do with the topic. The language on the other hand is a barrier I believe. Not impossible to work around though.

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I wasn’t going to jump in here, but excusing her terrible gimmick for reasoning “it works in Japan” is laughable. The pirate shit is the worst gimmick on the main roster. The whole Japanese anime type culture doesn’t work in American wrestling. Just because there’s a niche group of fans who enjoy it, for the most part many just don’t and will not.


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Who says? You? It hasn't hampered her so far. She got major pushes and a large cult following of American fans despite her "laughable" gimmick. You want to put her down.

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We're talking about a sport where a guy dressed as a bartender wrestles a man in underwear, wearing demon paint. Blaming the gimmick, which is practically just part of her entrance, doesn't justify her not being pushed. I understand that it doesn't appeal to everyone but I think that has little to do with the topic. The language on the other hand is a barrier I believe. Not impossible to work around though.
Let's examine this while we're at it. What do you want to wager is the amount of fans who hate her for her gimmick even right now, the majority or minority?

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