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It does, but come on, it's a stretch. What he said made perfect sense in kayfabe. Asuka, Crews, Ali and others really don't have TV time, but Shane does. That's true, that's what we've been seeing for months. He didn't mention some backstage agent, he didn't say anything controversial. Worked shoot is when you talk about storylines, break kayfabe, drop names of fired wrestlers. KO didn't do any of that.

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It does, but come on, it's a stretch. What he said made perfect sense in kayfabe. Asuka, Crews, Ali and others really don't have TV time, but Shane does. That's true, that's what we've been seeing for months. He didn't mention some backstage agent, he didn't say anything controversial. Worked shoot is when you talk about storylines, break kayfabe, drop names of fired wrestlers. KO didn't do any of that.
Dude this company is shitting on itself to get fans to give a fuck. You know how stupid that is?

At least with Punk it felt real and he came off like a real rebel, we've seen it a billion times since then and it isn't anywhere as great as it was Punk.

First, Punk had real grievances, was frustrated and on the way out so he channeled it well AND it's CM fucking Punk, one of the all time great mic workers who can articulate has wells exceptionally well.

And who the fuck gives a shit if Crews and Ali aren't getting TV time

This feels like a WWE straight to DVD version of the Summer of Punk. They really can't write for shit and are recycling material to create buzz.

Do you remember how Punk broke the internet when he did that promo, he freaking had mainstream media writing about him and wanting to book him.

Compare the reaction to this. It's nothing, everyone knows it's worked and most do not care. It's a desperate attempt to create buzz by the company through the company being 'meta'.

So excuse me for calling this crap out. Some here seem to never learn, hardly surprising considering they still watch this crap.
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I would agree if he did not have the line about being a good company man. When has Kevin Owens in kayfabe been a good company man? He headbutted Vince ffs. I liked the promo but it was worked shoot. Do it without the company man line and it would be better
I'll give you that. But even then, Vince's headbutt was years ago, since then if you remember he was actually by Vince's side when he returned.

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Dude this company is shitting on itself to get fans to give a fuck. You know how stupid that is?

At least with Punk it felt real and he came off like a real rebel, we've seen it a billion times since then and it isn't anywhere as great as it was Punk.

First, Punk had real grievance and was frustrated so he channeled it well AND it's CM fucking Punk, one of the all time great mic workers who can articulate has wells exceptionally well.

And who the fuck gives a shit if Crews and Ali aren't getting TV time
what are you so angry about?

I never compared it to Punk. Of fucking course Punks promo was better. This has nothing to do with him. It's not a worked shoot, as I already said above. And it was great on it's own. Did you really just complain about a great promo? Or is being a rebel exclusive to Punk?

And hell, I don't give a shit about Crews and Ali, but it made sense in the context of a promo. This guys absolutely should be offended that Shane calls himself the best in the world, that was the whole point.

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I'll give you that. But even then, Vince's headbutt was years ago, since then if you remember he was actually by Vince's side when he returned.



what are you so angry about?

I never compared it to Punk. Of fucking course Punks promo was better. This has nothing to do with him. It's not a worked shoot, as I already said above. And it was great on it's own. Did you really just complain about a great promo? Or is being a rebel exclusive to Punk?

And hell, I don't give a shit about Crews and Ali, but it made sense in the context of a promo. This guys absolutely should be offended that Shane calls himself the best in the world, that was the whole point.
This has nothing to do with the quality of the promo. It's all to do with this company working shoots every 6 months to create a buzz and dumb fans buying into that shit.

If this stuff continues to get over, they're going to continue to do it. I'm well past the point of caring, still some people who go crazy for it.. when it gets less and less over each time.
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Dude this company is shitting on itself to get fans to give a fuck. You know how stupid that is?
Yup, and the first time they did it..

AJ Lee with her pipebomb.

She shit on the E! Network
She shit on total Divas
She shit on The Bellas, even blatantly suggesting they sucked dick for fame
She shit on the Hart family
She pretty much shit on the entire female roster suggesting none of them earned anything

Just so AJ could get over...
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Re: Kevin Owens as the Anti Authority Figure Looks Good

Who gives a fuck about Apollo Crews and Ali about not being on Smackdown Live. Oh, wait. They are on the fucking Smackdown Live Roster, they should be on the show!! Before Ali got hurt, he was getting a main event push. But right? Who gives a fuck when the crowd wanted Ali to kick Daniel Bryan's ass last year. At Money In The Bank, the crowd was for him being Money In The Bank 2019 winner before Brock got involved. If you don't get that, then that is on your butt. Kevin Owens promo still stands and if you don't care then you are part of the problem why WWE SD is in the shape that it is.



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Yup, and the first time they did it..

AJ Lee with her pipebomb.

She shit on the E! Network
She shit on total Divas
She shit on The Bellas, even blatantly suggesting they sucked dick for fame
She shit on the Hart family
She pretty much shit on the entire female roster suggesting none of them earned anything

Just so AJ could get over...
The only two shoots I remember liking were the Summer of Punk (this was amazing and felt real) and the Roman-Cena shoot (obviously worked, but I couldn't stand Roman and I loved seeing Cena bury him).

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The only two shoots I remember liking were the Summer of Punk (this was amazing and felt real) and the Roman-Cena shoot (obviously worked, but I couldn't stand Roman and I loved seeing Cena bury him).
I did like John Vs Romans worked shoot for those same reasons, and it was a rare glimpse of John Cena being a legit fucking asshole and it was nice seeing him being just that for a change.
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I did like John Vs Romans worked shoot for those same reasons, and it was a rare glimpse of John Cena being a legit fucking asshole and it was nice seeing him being just that for a change.
Those are the two shoots I remember creating a big buzz obviously the Cena-Roman stuff wasn't anywhere near the same level as the pipebomb.

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Dude this company is shitting on itself to get fans to give a fuck. You know how stupid that is?

At least with Punk it felt real and he came off like a real rebel, we've seen it a billion times since then and it isn't anywhere as great as it was Punk.

First, Punk had real grievances, was frustrated and on the way out so he channeled it well AND it's CM fucking Punk, one of the all time great mic workers who can articulate has wells exceptionally well.

And who the fuck gives a shit if Crews and Ali aren't getting TV time

This feels like a WWE straight to DVD version of the Summer of Punk. They really can't write for shit and are recycling material to create buzz.

Do you remember how Punk broke the internet when he did that promo, he freaking had mainstream media writing about him and wanting to book him.

Compare the reaction to this. It's nothing, everyone knows it's worked and most do not care. It's a desperate attempt to create buzz by the company through the company being 'meta'.

So excuse me for calling this crap out. Some here seem to never learn, hardly surprising considering they still watch this crap.
Keep in mind the Punk promo was more than 8 years ago. A lot of things changed since then, even outside of the wrestling world.

Ofc in 2019 theres no chance to make it seem "real".
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