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So Ziggler wins with a superkick and Rollins just shrugs one off?

Anyone else find that fucking ridiculous? At the start of the show Ziggler hit Woods with a superkick and it put him down for the 3, then in the main event Rollins gets hit with a superkick by Owens and just shrugs it off as if he got hit by a chop or something.

I mean that shit just bugs me, if Ziggler is using the Superkick to finish guys then no one else should be using it right now, and if others use it it should made to look effective ffs.

Imagine the bitch fit Cena would have threw back in the day if someone was using his AA and guys was no selling it, i mean didn't he get Tyler Reks fired or de-pushed for just having a similar looking finisher to his?

I know Stone Cold was pissed when Cena was using the springboard Stunner and guys was kicking out of it, i don't get why Ziggler is fine with everyone using his finisher like its nothing more than a punch or a shove, either get that shit stopped or get a new finisher.
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post #2 of 45 (permalink) Old 06-18-2019, 10:15 PM
 
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It's strange how finishers work nowadays. Nothing is really protected.
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It's strange how finishers work nowadays. Nothing is really protected.
Braunís powerslam is and itís one of the weakest looking finishers
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Re: So Ziggler wins with a superkick and Rollins just shrugs one off?

It's the idea someone perfected a move in such a way they use it as a finisher. It does 150% dmg, +10 in Finish, and has 67% for critical hit.

Everyone else has not mastered the move as well and does normal damage. 100% dmg w/ 12% for critical hit.

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Re: So Ziggler wins with a superkick and Rollins just shrugs one off?

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It's the idea someone perfected a move in such a way they use it as a finisher. It does 150% dmg, +10 in Finish, and has 67% for critical hit.

Everyone else has not mastered the move as well and does normal damage. 100% dmg w/ 12% for critical hit.
haha that's funny, me and my buddies who watch wrestling IRL use made up stats too for jokes. For instance "Crafting ability" is how creatively a wrestler can set up tables, ladders and chairs.
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Re: So Ziggler wins with a superkick and Rollins just shrugs one off?

This has always been an inconsistency in pro wrestling.
From Stunners to unprotected chair shots to the skull: Sometimes people will sell them for 10 minutes+, sometimes they'll be up 5 seconds later for the next spot.

Finishers don't always = instant KO

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Re: So Ziggler wins with a superkick and Rollins just shrugs one off?

The guy no sells a superplex into a falcon arrow, would you expect any less of a wrestler that devoid of psychology?
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Re: So Ziggler wins with a superkick and Rollins just shrugs one off?

Finishers really don't make sense at times. Shawn Michaels made the Sweet Chin Music superkick work and was devastating, but nowadays mostly everyone kicks out of a superkick. Alexa Bliss' finisher is a standard DDT; I love Bliss, but what is so special and devastating about her DDT? At least Twisted Bliss made sense. Kevin Owens does the stunner from time to time and that never puts anyone away while that was Steve Austin's main move. Braun Strowman does a powerslam. Again, what's so special about his powerslam compared to previous ones? Bayley's Bayley-to-Belly is just a simple belly-to-belly suplex, very standard. Big E's 'Big Ending' is Big E jumping and landing on his own back, never understood his finisher.

But yeah, none of those compare to John Cena. He has 3 of the worst finishers of all time if you include that stupid 'Lighting Fist' that he does sometimes (I had to look up what the damn thing was called).


Also, I just love when a finisher looks like shit, Michael Cole will just exclaim "I don't think he got all of it!". Every time.

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Re: So Ziggler wins with a superkick and Rollins just shrugs one off?

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It's the idea someone perfected a move in such a way they use it as a finisher. It does 150% dmg, +10 in Finish, and has 67% for critical hit.

Everyone else has not mastered the move as well and does normal damage. 100% dmg w/ 12% for critical hit.
100% this, a wrestler has to master the move in order for it to be a finisher.

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Big E's 'Big Ending' is Big E jumping and landing on his own back, never understood his finisher.
I believe when he lands the arms are suppose to crush the ribs or something

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Finishers really don't make sense at times. Shawn Michaels made the Sweet Chin Music superkick work and was devastating, but nowadays mostly everyone kicks out of a superkick. Alexa Bliss' finisher is a standard DDT; I love Bliss, but what is so special and devastating about her DDT? At least Twisted Bliss made sense. Kevin Owens does the stunner from time to time and that never puts anyone away while that was Steve Austin's main move. Braun Strowman does a powerslam. Again, what's so special about his powerslam compared to previous ones? Bayley's Bayley-to-Belly is just a simple belly-to-belly suplex, very standard. Big E's 'Big Ending' is Big E jumping and landing on his own back, never understood his finisher.

But yeah, none of those compare to John Cena. He has 3 of the worst finishers of all time if you include that stupid 'Lighting Fist' that he does sometimes (I had to look up what the damn thing was called).


Also, I just love when a finisher looks like shit, Michael Cole will just exclaim "I don't think he got all of it!". Every time.
I think Cena does that 3rd finisher on his recent movie in China. Something similar to it from the movie. Now he does it in WWE to probably to play off the movie, show something to the China audience. Smart move for Cena to use it, albeit a finishing move

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