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post #61 of 128 (permalink) Old 06-09-2019, 06:38 AM
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Re: Who did Ember Moon piss off?

Tell me what her character is meant to be and ask her to find some charisma.

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post #62 of 128 (permalink) Old 06-09-2019, 06:58 AM
 
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Re: Who did Ember Moon piss off?

It's the women division she is one of the more talented chicks ergo she will get a push
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Yeah, let's not differentiate the two situations at all. Let's ignore how Kofi was treated for 11 years, too.
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Yeah what a dog shit career this guy has had.
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Eh i really don't see much charisma to Ruby or Asuka, Asuka has tried to cut alot of promos and they have all been unbelievably bad, Ember looks like The Rock on the mic compared to Asuka.

Bayley is a prime example of someone who can't cut a promo, isn't the greatest in ring wrestler, and doesn't have much redeemable qualities at all as a wrestler. Yet Bayley is the SDL womens champion right now, Ember is leagues better than Bayley, why can that happen for Bayley but not Ember?
You don't have to be a great promo to have charisma, Asuka is the most charismatic female they have on the roster. Asuka has a physical charisma and aura that gets people behind her. As far as Bayley goes, she has a physical charisma that makes her likable especially with children and she sells a fuck-ton of merch, so there's that.





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Re: Who did Ember Moon piss off?

The thing is Ember was the most hyped NXT Champion ever.

Paige was one of the matriarchs of the "Women's Revolution", as annoying as that phrase is, and came in it at a time where they needed another female star. Women like Charlotte, Sasha, Becky, and Bayley were apart of the 4HW and all, regardless of how long it took, became stars in the company at least in terms of things like merch and crowd reactions. Asuka had her undefeated streak and they used that at least to pad Charlotte's stats and was popular enough to get a Women's Title reign when Becky needed to drop it.

Ember compared to other NXT Champions and women like Alexa was never that big or popular. So as a result she just gets lost in the shuffle as just another athletic talent, like Naomi in a way.

Now she still gets decent reactions when she just can do her thing in the ring. She has the potential to be a champion. She's just someone you have to try a little harder with. And unfortunately, they're not too good about that.



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So 5 black women in WWE history received pushes, most of them brief, the only real extended one being Layla and that was with a blonde white girl as a pairing, and all of them except Sasha and Naomi at a time when womens wrestling wasn't taken seriously whatsoever, so holding the title meant nothing. Well, that settles it, guys, there's no racism in WWE!
Yes 5 have received pushes, can you name me 5 that were active on the main roster that didnt? Oh and They're all brief runs?....162 days for Jazz, 131 days for Layla, 117 days for Jackie, 56 days for Fox (ok brief), another 140 days for Layla, 148 days for Naomi and 80 days for Sasha.

And its hilarious you try to use the argument of "womens wrestling wasnt taken serious so the title meant nothing"...Titles dont mean anything and havent in over 20 years. But there you have a list of women from the main roster that have held (a) womens title for over 100+ days except for 2. Seriously black women wrestlers are a minority (no pun intended) every single one of them have held titles & been pushed on the main roster with the exception of Cameron (who was trash) and Ember who has literally been active on the main roster for 10 months. Take your whoa is me crap elsewhere.

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Re: Who did Ember Moon piss off?

Gotta let your Becky/Charlotte and Bayley/Alexa feuds bore the breaks off of you or have dogshit like Lacey or the IIconics get more prominent time. Hate to see it.


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post #68 of 128 (permalink) Old 06-09-2019, 10:24 PM
 
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Creative probably has plenty for her. It's Vince that does not. God forbid we have less than 4 segments per week featuring Charlotte and Lacy between both shows.
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Yes 5 have received pushes, can you name me 5 that were active on the main roster that didnt? Oh and They're all brief runs?....162 days for Jazz, 131 days for Layla, 117 days for Jackie, 56 days for Fox (ok brief), another 140 days for Layla, 148 days for Naomi and 80 days for Sasha.

And its hilarious you try to use the argument of "womens wrestling wasnt taken serious so the title meant nothing"...Titles dont mean anything and havent in over 20 years. But there you have a list of women from the main roster that have held (a) womens title for over 100+ days except for 2. Seriously black women wrestlers are a minority (no pun intended) every single one of them have held titles & been pushed on the main roster with the exception of Cameron (who was trash) and Ember who has literally been active on the main roster for 10 months. Take your whoa is me crap elsewhere.
Keep posting those numers out of context like nobody knows what you're doing. Lets pretend Jazz wasn't hotshotting the title back and forth with Trish until Trish ultimately won out and lets Layla wasn't a michelle McCool accessory and that Jackies only reason for holding the belt definitely wasn't as a prop in the sable marc mero feud, and spending the majority of her reign defending the belt against lana was def a good use of Naomi's time. As for Sasha... yea I can't even pretend there. But then again I would expect such bullshit from the supporter of the most undeserved champion of at least this decade if not ever.
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Re: Who did Ember Moon piss off?

dont think ember moon is on the same level as EC3. Ember is more part of the whole, WWE not knowing how to use their women properly. I'd also tweek something with Ember... there IS something missing with her. She's not good on the mic, which is fine, because most of the women on the roster can't talk for shit... but they need to find somethinng, someway for her to connect and get some heat. Like, her entrance is cool...but it's not enough. Her wrestling is obviously fine...

I would find her a tag team partner. Someone new, maybe not even on NxT (or at least someone not really showcased). Either find her a mouth piece or get her a charismatic new manager (male or female...not paige).

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