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Re: Who did Ember Moon piss off?

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What they did to Ember Moon is sad, honestly. She had a mysterious, cool character in NXT and WWE could have easily turned it into something. Not a 'female Undertaker' so-to-speak, but something different than all the other women who are all pretty much the same.

She has the entrance, red eyes, is called the "War Goddess", and her finisher, name, and titantron all reference the moon. Great, they are all things that add to the character and could have been built upon. But ever since she debuted to the main roster, WWE just said fuck it and made her another typical female wrestler with an entrance. There are no answers or reasoning as to why she references the moon, why she is called the war goddess, just nothing. So, when WWE stopped caring, the fans did too. Why should we care when they don't? She should have had a lengthy title run by now, I've always liked Ember.
Ember Moon's character was shit all the way back in NXT. I'm assuming you're referring to the main roster when you're talking about WWE. Classic case of creative not knowing what to do with the character and instead made her into a cosplayer.

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I always said that she was going to struggle on the main roster because, as good of a wrestler as she is, she really never has been the most charismatic person, even on NXT, she was by far the most pushed woman besides Asuka in 2017, but she never was more over than the IIconics or Nikki, who despite being less talented inbetween the ropes they made up that with charisma. Could she be used better? Sure, but until she gets a character that connects with people I can't see her going very far, despite her athletic abilities and in ring skills
The IIconics have been pushed far harder than Ember Moon on the main roster though. Yes, I know what you're going to say, they lose every match and Ember probably wins most of her matches since she's a babyface. Wins and losses really don't mean anything for midcarders, especially heel midcarders like your girls. The IIconics have been given far more mic time and far more character than Ember. They have identifiable personas and actually feel like part of the show, they have a role, you may not like their role, but at least they have one. Who is Ember Moon? We know nothing about her, she's one of the most underdeveloped nondescript people on the entire show, she's basically just the female Apollo Crews. What is Ember Moon's role? She doesn't have one. She is in a way worse position than The IIconics.

Despite being complete jobbers, The IIconics are probably in a better position than about 60% of the roster.


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Re: Who did Ember Moon piss off?

Probably a combination of being a dull performer, being injured before and creative having nothing for her. A lot of talent can get injured, but for those that WWE were never high on to begin with it can make management think they're not worth investing in.
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Re: Who did Ember Moon piss off?

She had some really good match with Liv back on RAW and the two have a good chemistry in the ring, but both don't get used for weeks now! I said it so often, it's such a shame how they waste their Superstars talents!

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Ember, Naomi should be top contenders for the SDL/RAW titles, Becky 2 belts, Charlotte set the womens division so far back. I dont have a problem with Ronda cause she was perfect in her role. They knew what it was with Ronda, but Charlotte 9x makes no sense.
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The IIconics have been pushed far harder than Ember Moon on the main roster though. Yes, I know what you're going to say, they lose every match and Ember probably wins most of her matches since she's a babyface. Wins and losses really don't mean anything for midcarders, especially heel midcarders like your girls. The IIconics have been given far more mic time and far more character than Ember. They have identifiable personas and actually feel like part of the show, they have a role, you may not like their role, but at least they have one. Who is Ember Moon? We know nothing about her, she's one of the most underdeveloped nondescript people on the entire show, she's basically just the female Apollo Crews. What is Ember Moon's role? She doesn't have one. She is in a way worse position than The IIconics.

Despite being complete jobbers, The IIconics are probably in a better position than about 60% of the roster.
And that's mostly because they are charismatic. They are kinda like Alexa in a way, they can fill time and that's why they keep them around on tv despite not being the best workers, at least since they won the titles that is their role. Let's face it, there are probably only 4 or 5 good or, at least, decent wrestlers in the womens division, but besides Becky (and to a degree Charlotte) the rest of the good workers (Ember, Asuka, Kairi, Natalya) really can't fill time with anything but wrestling, if you put them in a position to cut a promo or do backstage stuff they are gonna struggle. I guess you can put these women against each other in 10-15 minutes matches every week, but Vince seem to care more about the non wrestling stuff than what actually happens inside the ring these days. Someone did the math: Out of the 3 hours of RAW last week there were only 40 minutes of actual wrestling, so if you are not able to do stuff besides knowing how to wrestle it is gonna be hard for you to appear on tv.

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Re: Who did Ember Moon piss off?

Just another one of the many who just got lost in the shuffle.

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Re: Who did Ember Moon piss off?

She only got a job cause Booker T trained her. She has a jazzy finisher and that's about it.
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Just another example of WWE's incompetance.
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Re: Who did Ember Moon piss off?

Meh. Never cared or been impressed by anything Ember Moon bar her finisher.

Horrendous on the microphone too.
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