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Asuka having a MMA background and style a main reason she was undefeated for so long?

Shanya Bazbler is still NXT womens champion to the irk of quite of few fans. Many believe its time she drops it and let a woman's reign begin.

I especially didnt like it for Kairi cause she never had a big payoff for this long ass running feud. I was hoping on her last match she would win it then immediately vacate it. Trish Stratus did it.

I would have perferred it Kairi didnt have a match at all and just say goodbye to the fans.

Lately iv been seeing a thread that a lot of you guys say the reason Shanya is still NXT womens champion all this time is Triple H has a thing for Shanya being from MMA. He's letting her be champ for this long cause of this.

Now my question is to you guys is do you think its one of the main reasons Asuka was champ and undefeated for so long cause she has a MMA style of wrestling to? If Asuka had a different style would Triple H let her be champ and undefeated for as long as she was?
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Re: Asuka having a MMA background and style a main reason she was undefeated for so long?

Triple h loves his foreign menaces. I wouldn't place it all on mma though. Jack Gallagher and nakamura both have mma backgrounds and they're certainly not booked as unbeatable. I think they just pick and choose who they want to have mma plot armor
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Re: Asuka having a MMA background and style a main reason she was undefeated for so long?

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Lately iv been seeing a thread that a lot of you guys say the reason Shanya is still NXT womens champion all this time is Triple H has a thing for Shanya being from MMA. He's letting her be champ for this long cause of this.
I disagree here. This is all about her being friend with Rousey and they park her in NXT for the moment. Also she can help bringing the other 2 MMA women over, for an eventually HW feud.

If they really would like Shayna on her own, they would call her up ASAP and not wait until she is 40.

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Re: Asuka having a MMA background and style a main reason she was undefeated for so long?

Kind of. The MMA-esque style lends itself to being a more legitimate and credible style which makes it easier for them to be presented as dominant.

But the biggest reason Asuka was champion for so long was because the division was cleared out after she won. Her title defences after winning the title were Nia Jax, Bayley, Mickie James, Iconics, Cross, Ruby Riott and Ember.

The first thing out of the way. Bayley should've never been winning back the title anyway. Nia Jax obviously shouldn't have won either. And Mickie was literally brought back for a match because the division had no one else at the time and since she wasn't sticking around in NXT, she obviously shouldn't win either. It is my belief that they never planned for Asuka's title reign to be that long initially, but they were forced to keep it on her because of the lack of challengers.

By the time new blood came around, aka Iconics, Cross, Moon and Riott, it was at least 9 months into Asuka's title reign and they finally decided to do an invincible storyline champion with her, which is why she retained for the rest of her reign. The odds were constantly being stacked against her and she seemed to always weasel a win out of her matches. She was put against 3 other women in Iconics and Cross and despite the Iconics's perfect gameplan, she managed to get one of them out of the ring long enough to hit her finisher on the other and win. In the triple threat against Cross and Riot, she only won after hitting Riot with a shining wizard out of no where. Even when she was put in a street match against Cross, a match that should've been more to Cross's element, she still managed to outlast her and win.

The story was that Asuka was unbeatable, and that she always finds a way to win no matter the odds. The only person that she was afraid of at the time was Ember, who was the only person she had to cheat to beat. The story should've concluded with Ember beating Asuka in their rematch, to complete the story, but main roster wanted Asuka to keep her undefeated streak which is why she never lost
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Re: Asuka having a MMA background and style a main reason she was undefeated for so long?

No. She was undefeated forever in NXT because Triple H knew she was the most charismatic person in the company.
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Re: Asuka having a MMA background and style a main reason she was undefeated for so long?

I don't know but if this turns out to be true, then I am anxiously waiting for Sonya Deville to get her monster push.
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Re: Asuka having a MMA background and style a main reason she was undefeated for so long?

People will argue that Asuka had to go undefeated because there wasn't anybody who could believably beat her; I'd argue nobody could believably beat her because they chose not to build anybody up and made them all look like her bitches.

To some kayfabe ability and real life wrestling ability is a blurred line, that is to say people shouldn't be booked stronger than their actual wrestling ability. I think that's dumb, Becky would never beat Charlotte is they were booked based on actual skill, Ciampa would've never been champ over the other NXT 6, and Cien would currently have all the titles.

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Re: Asuka having a MMA background and style a main reason she was undefeated for so long?

Asuka being undefeated and basically burying the division killed the NXT women for a long while. Ember should have beaten her before she got called up, but dumbly HHH let her just vacate the title.
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I think so she's legit and believable enough to have a streak if only Vince bought into it on the MR.

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Re: Asuka having a MMA background and style a main reason she was undefeated for so long?

Can anyone link info that describes this MMA training extensively please? I tried to find it this past weekend and I didnt see shit past the first two pages on google. This makes me highly question how great her 'training' was.

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