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post #41 of 211 (permalink) Old 04-07-2019, 11:58 PM
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No, you didn't make a point. You stated opinions without backing them up. So I decided to debunk those in similar fashion.
If that's how you want to justify it, whatever.

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That's a pretty rubbish way of looking at it. Only two wrestlers can be world champion at a time. If you have 10 great wrestlers, does that mean you have to think 8 suck because they can't be world champion? Silly logic.
Yes. And, those 8 have been world champion at other points. Joe has not. You can't tell me Joe is great and then say that he's unworthy of being the champion and should stick to being in the midcard. Joe deserves his run just like everybody else.

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The paying audience cheer for him. Every single week. Then you have people on social media who have been in uproar about him not winning the title since elimination chamber. WWE doesn't draw anymore. We know this. Ratings do not mean much anymore, as no matter who is champion, they have done poor in that category for years.
If they don't draw then what the fuck does it matter if he's cheered? What about Kofi is more entertaining because people in the building are loud? It doesn't cause him to have better promos, it doesn't cause him to have better matches, it doesn't in any way make him more of an entertaining performer and it means nothing for business, so WHAT is the justification for pushing him based off cheers?

Ratings don't matter, which is what they make their money on now, tv deals, but social media, which is the most irrelevant thing on the planet, that they make no money on, and the paying fans matter even though they pay no matter what's going on or who the champion is, and the arenas are always empty on top of that? Doesn't make any sense. There are no paying fans, they tarp 3/4'ths of the arena every week and Kofi being in the title picture hasn't changed that, nor will it.
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post #42 of 211 (permalink) Old 04-07-2019, 11:59 PM
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Likely but he won when he should have.

All that matters.
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People really debating if Kofi's worthy or not when Jinder Mahal was champion lol.

The prestige of that title is long dead.
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Anyone who thinks Kofi's going to hold the title longer than the next ppv is delusional.

I guarantee he'll lose it the next SD tbh lol.

Because that's just how Vinny Mac rolls.
This. Kofi is a transitional champ. This was all about getting a feel good moment at Mania, getting past the Saudi show Bryan refuses to work and getting a quick merch boost. Kofi looses the title back to Bryan via New Day heel turn next PPV. Kofi feuds with New Day and Bryan spends the summer with KO.
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People really debating if Kofi's worthy or not when Jinder Mahal was champion lol.

The prestige of that title is long dead.
You say that, but if Owens won it, you'd jump out of your seat. Don't even lie and say otherwise. It's still one of the only two important titles in wrestling, no matter how badly they fuck it up.




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You say that, but if Owens won it, you'd jump out of your seat. Don't even lie and say otherwise. It's still one of the only two important titles in wrestling, no matter how badly they fuck it up.
I think the only thing that'd make me jump out of my seat at this point is if Punk were to return. But I would probably tune in more. I get your point though.
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[QUOTE=Tyrion Lannister;77080248]If that's how you want to justify it, whatever. [/QUTOE]

Whatever that means

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Yes. And, those 8 have been world champion at other points. Joe has not. You can't tell me Joe is great and then say that he's unworthy of being the champion and should stick to being in the midcard. Joe deserves his run just like everybody else.
I never said the 8 had been world champion though, so you've completely missed the point.

Joe is worthy. But so is Kofi. Only one could be world champion right now. And this is where your logic falls flat.

This has nothing to do with being worthy though. This is just your latest tantrum when you don't get what you want. Which is fine, as everyone watches to see what they want. But don't paint it up some moral bullshit other way. Just be straight.


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If they don't draw then what the fuck does it matter if he's cheered? What about Kofi is more entertaining because people in the building are loud? It doesn't cause him to have better promos, it doesn't cause him to have better matches, it doesn't in any way make him more of an entertaining performer and it means nothing for business, so WHAT is the justification for pushing him based off cheers?
Who draws in wrestling today?

It does matter though, as it brings a far better atmosphere to segments and matches. Just look at tonight. The crowd being emotionally invested added a lot to to an alreay great match. and the aftermath. Kofi is not the strongest on the mic, but the crowd cheered after everything he said in the go home smackdown which helps the vibe.

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Ratings don't matter, which is what they make their money on now, tv deals, but social media, which is the most irrelevant thing on the planet, that they make no money on, and the paying fans matter even though they pay no matter what's going on or who the champion is, and the arenas are always empty on top of that? Doesn't make any sense. There are no paying fans, they tarp 3/4'ths of the arena every week.
They just got a ridiculous contract from Fox while posting low ratings on a weekly basis. So how important are ratings really? We will see when they move to Fox, as there won't be a magical upturn, so if Fox cuts them quickly because of it, or downgrade them to another channel for less pay (if possible), then I'll retract that comment.

Social media does matter to them as they always cite it whether it be how many followers they have, or views etc. They think it makes them relevent so
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Glad Kofi won but I initially expected Big E and Woods to swerve Kofi and cost him the match for a second oh well.

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If I remember correctly, the New Day have said that they went to Vince and flat out told him that they'd quit if he tried to break them up like that.

Anyway, the ME scene needs freshening up, and Kofi being there does that, at least it should hopefully.
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