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Just because it's the draft? Huh? It's...the draft. It's absolutely the biggest thing WWE has done in quite a few years, actually. What in the actual...
It's the biggest thing WWE has done in years to the people who are still watching. What don't you understand about that? The erosion of viewers over the past 2 years specifically is proof positive that people have tuned out. You really think that just because WWE held a draft that 3 million of them are going to come back? WWE hyped this draft for about a week. Up until this weekend nobody even knew the rules. They barely mentioned it on TV. You're acting like this is some big huge thing when in reality it's just another fumbled ball to add to the long list of others that have contributed to people slowly but surely tuning out. Expecting some magical number purely because of the draft is honestly a bit stupid. No offense but you have to be some sort of naive to believe it was going to pull in an extra 2 million people. It basically pulled in the Raw audience who don't usually watch SD because those people are all that's left.
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It's the biggest thing WWE has done in years to the people who are still watching. What don't you understand about that? The erosion of viewers over the past 2 years specifically is proof positive that people have tuned out. You really think that just because WWE held a draft that 3 million of them are going to come back? WWE hyped this draft for about a week. Up until this weekend nobody even knew the rules. They barely mentioned it on TV. You're acting like this is some big huge thing when in reality it's just another fumbled ball to add to the long list of others that have contributed to people slowly but surely tuning out. Expecting some magical number purely because of the draft is honestly a bit stupid. No offense but you have to be some sort of naive to believe it was going to pull in an extra 2 million people. It basically pulled in the Raw audience who don't usually watch SD because those people are all that's left.
No, it is the biggest thing WWE has done for anyone and everyone. They are doing this brand split in hopes of bringing at least some of the old audience back. This was a nice increase from what SD has been recently, but if this is the absolute ceiling of SD, even with the actual draft on it, than yeah, that is pretty disappointing overall.

And no offense, but everytime you have a disagreement with someone you always somehow belittle their intelligence or make statements like "I have no idea what you are saying." or just flatout call them stupid. That says alot, tbh. Feel free to not respond. I promise I will be able to move on.

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No, it is the biggest thing WWE has done for anyone and everyone. They are doing this brand split in hopes of bringing at least some of the old audience back. This was a nice increase from what SD has been recently, but if this is the absolute ceiling of SD, even with the actual draft on it, than yeah, that is pretty disappointing overall.

And no offense, but everytime you have a disagreement with someone you always somehow belittle their intelligence or make statements like "I have no idea what you are saying." or just flatout call them stupid. That says alot, tbh. Feel free to not respond. I promise I will be able to move on.
Lol, what? You just said yourself that they are doing the brand split in hopes of bringing people back. That isn't going to happen in one night. You know that Raw ratings are tanking and you know that there are no draws on this roster yet you somehow expect Smackdown to pop some incredible number drafting a roster that doesn't draw? I have asked you about 3 times now to say what type of rating/viewership you were expecting this show to get and so far all you've done is talk in circles and make baseless statements like the bolded.

Why would I take offense to other people not being able to articulate their points and/or saying stupid things? Feel free to not respond? Lol why wouldn't I respond? We're all adults here and we're having a discussion. If you want to end it then end it. There's no need to get on your soapbox and make an announcement.
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Lol, what? You just said yourself that they are doing the brand split in hopes of bringing people back. That isn't going to happen in one night. You know that Raw ratings are tanking and you know that there are no draws on this roster yet you somehow expect Smackdown to pop some incredible number drafting a roster that doesn't draw? I have asked you about 3 times now to say what type of rating/viewership you were expecting this show to get and so far all you've done is talk in circles and make baseless statements like the bolded.

Why would I take offense to other people not being able to articulate their points and/or saying stupid things? Feel free to not respond? Lol why wouldn't I respond? We're all adults here and we're having a discussion. If you want to end it then end it. There's no need to get on your soapbox and make an announcement.
I literally feel like I am talking to myself here. I was expecting a viewership in the mid 3 millions. Considering the draft took place last night and it had been announced in advance, I don't think that was really expecting much, especially without a third hour to drag down the viewership. But maybe my expectations were too high for even that..

I've articulated my points just fine, just like everytime we interact. It's not my fault you're not taking them in. You're the one who got on your soapbox by taking the first shot and kinda/sorta calling me stupid. If you're going to say something like that, expect a response. Simple as that.

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Speaking of brand mark wars, I'm Team Smackdown. The flagship RAW shall soon be a dilapidated boat.


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^^^ When MNF hits, Raw is dead. I won't be surprised in the slightest to see SD beat Raw from Sept through December.

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I literally feel like I am talking to myself here. I was expecting a viewership in the mid 3 millions. Considering the draft took place last night and it had been announced in advance, I don't think that was really expecting much, especially without a third hour to drag down the viewership. But maybe my expectations were too high for even that..

I've articulated my points just fine, just like everytime we interact. It's not my fault you're not taking them in. You're the one who got on your soapbox by taking the first shot and kinda/sorta calling me stupid. If you're going to say something like that, expect a response. Simple as that.
There we go! So you were thinking mid 3 million and it actually got 3.1 million. I guess I can see why you would think that's a huge disappointment. If only you actually said that instead of making OH MY GOD SCARY HORRIBLE GHASTLY RATINGS posts for 3 pages.

I see your point... now that you have quantified it. The way you were talking earlier I was expecting you to hit me with 7 million people to tune in for the draft. And yeah, I do think it's a bit stupid and naive to expect some insane number out of nowhere. That's why I said it. At least now I know you were mostly trolling more than anything else. That makes a difference. You make solid points but you really need to calm down with the hyperbole on certain things. You expected 3.5, the result was 3.1 and you were acting like the sky was falling. Just chill out a bit.

Besides, Smackdown isn't touching this type of number again probably until Wrestlemania season next year so technically you're right I suppose.

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TBF this show was hyped up for weeks with the possibilities of surprises/debuts/returns. That's not a "great" number.

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There we go! So you were thinking mid 3 million and it actually got 3.1 million. I guess I can see why you would think that's a huge disappointment. If only you actually said that instead of making OH MY GOD SCARY HORRIBLE GHASTLY RATINGS posts for 3 pages.

I see your point... now that you have quantified it. The way you were talking earlier I was expecting you to hit me with 7 million people to tune in for the draft. And yeah, I do think it's a bit stupid and naive to expect some insane number out of nowhere. That's why I said it. At least now I know you were mostly trolling more than anything else. That makes a difference. You make solid points but you really need to calm down with the hyperbole on certain things. You expected 3.5, the result was 3.1 and you were acting like the sky was falling. Just chill out a bit.

Besides, Smackdown isn't touching this type of number again probably until Wrestlemania season next year so technically you're right I suppose.

SD has no excuse not to be beating Raw when Football starts, I agree with that. Between NFL games and having that 3rd hour, there is no reason for SD to not be beating Raw from September to December. THAT would be a major disappointment for SD if they aren't, at least, IMO. Just because the NFL is a monster, as we all know.

I don't know, when the first draft in a decade starts, I absolutely expected more than 3 million viewers (3.1, whatever). Maybe I'm a 'fool' for that. Maybe I had that line of thinking because a brand split, IMO, is pretty much the very last thing Vince has up his sleeve to improve the ratings and product, and if this doesn't work, I don't see what else he can possibly do, you know? Outside, of course, of just doing things the right way and having better writers write quality stories with the right performers in the correct alignment, of course. This brand split is Vince's last gasp for air, unless when it does fail, he actually decides to do the right thing. Maybe that's why I was surprised by the number. I don't know. Anyway, have a good one.

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Smackdown being up a million viewers is a good thing. Not a great thing, because their television audience is at one of the lowest points it's ever been, but it's "good."

Still, I don't see how the numbers go up or they get new viewers back in the foreseeable future. Rollins and Reigns can't feud with each other forever, Owens needs some work to be considered a main eventer, Cena's not a huge difference maker anymore, Brock's hardly around and is feuding with a Smackdown guy, Dean's damaged goods, etc. These guys are all split in half now, so their options for opponents are limited.

Let's see how different Raw and Smackdown really wind up being, and if any of those differences actually wind up being attractions to people.
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Having super high expectations for Smackdown's viewership numbers was setting yourself up for disappointment in the first place. Sure, it's the draft, but as indicated by Raw's viewership, WWE's "base viewership" (aka, hardcore and loyal fans) are in the 3m range. That's the number Smackdown got - they got the base and loyal viewers.

For a show that has been irrelevant for a long, long time, getting pretty much all of the loyal viewers is nothing to worry about at all. It's the viewership to follow.
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