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Turning their top babyface Bryan heel, putting Asuka clean over a white hot Becky, and the refusal to turn Reigns heel when he returned are 3 really dumb decisions they've made. They also refuse to push anyone with mic skills.

When you've got a guy like EC3 who has charisma out the ass being used as a puppet for a New Day comedy segment that pretty much sums up everything wrong with this ass backwards excuse of an entertainment company. Somewhere along the way Vince lost the plot and turned his company into everything he hates which is a glorified indie promotion.
Butchering Bryan's return from retirement was the epitome of WWE stupidity. What should have been the feel good story of the fucking decade ended with him tagging with Shane McMahon at Mania, doing nothing for months, then turning heel.

What they should have done is have heel Miz take the belt off AJ, give him a lengthy run, have Bryan win the Rumble and beat Miz at Mania this year for the title.

The Becky stuff was fucking retarded too. She TAPS OUT in the opener, then steals an injured woman's spot in the Rumble right at the end and wins. What a great heel... oh wait, she's the top babyface?


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Re: All SmackDown TV Ratings, Buys, Attendance, Draw Talk Here >> THE BLUE BRAND RATINGS WAR

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Turning their top babyface Bryan heel, putting Asuka clean over a white hot Becky, and the refusal to turn Reigns heel when he returned are 3 really dumb decisions they've made. They also refuse to push anyone with mic skills.

When you've got a guy like EC3 who has charisma out the ass being used as a puppet for a New Day comedy segment that pretty much sums up everything wrong with this ass backwards excuse of an entertainment company. Somewhere along the way Vince lost the plot and turned his company into everything he hates which is a glorified indie promotion.
Turning Bryan was the correct decision, he was dead and asked for the turn himself.

A lot like the hippy gimmick, but it's low card comedy heel work. Not surprising it's a complete afterthought when not featured. It's booked in low card segments with the tag titles and no one cares.

Becky is rubbish, Asuka going over clean is fine with me because Asuka is flat out better in all counts. Not like marks gave a shit either they all eat up Becky winning the Rumble because they're morons and are happy with shit booking as long as their favorites are the beneficiaries.


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Turning their top babyface Bryan heel, putting Asuka clean over a white hot Becky, and the refusal to turn Reigns heel when he returned are 3 really dumb decisions they've made.
Putting Asuka over Becky was the right decision because Asuka is much more talented, and why would they turn Roman heel when he's finally gotten over as a face?
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Asuka is never gonna be a thing in a North American company. Get over it. I hate Becky and that was still a retarded decision to have her lose to someone who can't even speak English.
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Re: All SmackDown TV Ratings, Buys, Attendance, Draw Talk Here >> THE BLUE BRAND RATINGS WAR

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Turning their top babyface Bryan heel, putting Asuka clean over a white hot Becky, and the refusal to turn Reigns heel when he returned are 3 really dumb decisions they've made. They also refuse to push anyone with mic skills.

When you've got a guy like EC3 who has charisma out the ass being used as a puppet for a New Day comedy segment that pretty much sums up everything wrong with this ass backwards excuse of an entertainment company. Somewhere along the way Vince lost the plot and turned his company into everything he hates which is a glorified indie promotion.
Agreed. I hope the ratings fall under a million.
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I agree with u bro. Itís very hard for a non English speaker to get over in entertainment with an American audience.

So because u donít agree with people they are now morons. Who are u to tell people what to like and what not to like? In fact it makes you very shallow and close minded. It also makes u lack intelligence if u canít respect the fact that everyone has an opinion.
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Asuka was quite over until they just stopped trying to do anything at all with her. To argue otherwise is revisionist history.

Besides, it's not like not using her has made the product any better anyway.


I can sit here and write a whole year's worth of angles for her and Nakamura and Andrade even taking into consideration their language barrier. We've always asked "Why can't the WWE do this and this instead" when it comes to many of their performers. They can, with a different mindset. They just don't want to. There's never enough fans asking "Why?" when it comes to the WWE's formulas. Why do they have to fit everyone into a specific box? Why does the product have to be so mic heavy? Why is it that you have to be able to stand in the ring and talk for 20 minutes in order to be a champion? Why can't they have more action-oriented segments? Why don't they film some segments outside the ring from time to time? Why don't they use managers anymore? (Yes I know Paige is being used but in WWE fashion it is a poor use)

There really is no reason why they can't change the formula up. There's no reason why they can't book to their performer's strengths instead of needing all of them to fit into a single box. And it's not like the current formula has been working lately either. They've brainwashed their dwindling audiences into buying into a certain standard, all while seeing large drops in their audiences over the past few years and particularly several months.

WWE's crowds were clearly ready for Asuka twice in the past year. Once at Wrestlemania 34 and the second time at TLC. They dropped the ball afterwards on her both times and then people just gave up hoping. Do I think they lost a few thousand or so viewers because they haven't booked people like Finn and Sasha and Asuka and Nakamura well? Yeah, I think so. Individually they may not amount to a lot of people but cumulatively they've lost a lot of fans over the past year because SO MANY people are booked less than respectably. These lost fanbases add up and I think you're starting to see the results of them pissing away so many fanbases cumulatively.

Here's the thing about foreigners though. If you're clearly not willing to work around their accents/language issues, don't hire them at all. It's that simple. Don't try to pretend to be an international flavoured company when you have no actual plan to incorporate them.

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Re: All SmackDown TV Ratings, Buys, Attendance, Draw Talk Here >> THE BLUE BRAND RATINGS WAR

The FOX execs who told the other FOX hotshots that successfully argued for the Smackdown that WWE was blowing smoke up their assholes with cherry picked "ratings increases" in 2016, 2017 and 2018 but that the long term trend for the company was in the toilet, well, they've got to be gloating right now. They're gloating and gearing up to rub it in their rival's faces this fall. Any ratings stumble will be seen in the context of that power struggle and oneupsmanship. It definitely looks like the doubters are right. FOX is not monolithic. I believe many people, possibly even the majority of decision makers at FOX, looked at viewership, live attendance, merchandise sales and house shows over the past 4 or 5 years before agreeing to the deal and said that pro wrestling was passe and would continue to dwindle in popularity yet they were outvoted or big-timed.

These numbers could be up 65 percent where they are now, and plenty of people at FOX would still be feeling angry at getting ripped off.

Edit: Tim Allen in his sixties doing this really cutting edge show, "Home Improvement, but the boys are replaced with girls" is getting better than double and occasionally close to triple what Smackdown is getting now. That's the viewership context.
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All time non-holiday low, only .03 ratings point higher than last year's Smackdown CHRISTMAS EPISODE

1.86 million viewers is the sixth time in the last eight weeks Smackdown dipped below 2 million viewers.

19 percent YoY drop in total viewership.

Male 18-34 demo of 0.34 is the lowest male 18-34 demo EVER for a RAW or Smackdown. One year ago, the same 18-34 demo was 0.96!

Lost in total viewership to REAL HOUSEWIVES OF BEVERLY HILLS.

WHAT IN THE WORLD IS HAPPENING?!?!



Look at Smackdown's 18-34 male demo. Its gotta be New Day killing that. Right? I like them but I feel like an asshole with some of the stuff they say and do pre-match. FFS, last year they were a 1 share with 18-34 men now they're a .3 share, not even doing a THIRD with males 18-34 that they were doing last year, MY GOD.

18-34 males don't want to watch women's wrestling (most of the women on the roster), geeks (Kofi and Seth), and children's programming (anything New Day does).

The most ironic thing to me, is that if HHH/Steph weren't relativives of Vince, they'd be fired by any CEO who followed their ideas and it lead to losing nearly all their audience. HHH loves the work rate geeks, and Steph loves the women. Sure Vince signs off on it, but it's the 2 below him that are pushing it.

AEW is gonna get the 18-34 males and I doubt any of them go back to watching WWE. WWE will be the wrestling show for kids and SJW types. AEW will be targeted towards the current MMA crowd.
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Imagine putting the top title and building a key part of the show around Kofi Kingston simply because the empty vessels on social media wanted to pat themselves on the back over correctly building around Daniel Fucking Bryan.

Fucking geeks.
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I do have one question for anyone who might feel that Dwayne Johnson "owes" the business. Is it just him, or is it anyone who moved on to other things? Should Luna Vachon get heat for running a towing company instead of working on RAW? Should Maven be critiqued on his Home Shopping Network bits instead of wrestling?

Or is it only the ones who go on to highly visible careers in movies that owe something? Why do Johnson (who left after putting people over, doing the traditionally "right thing") and Lesnar (who did not; except for making Eddie a legitimate star) get called sell-outs who "forgot where they came from" when someone who retires to do some regular job get credit (as they should) for moving on and making it without falling into a sea of addiction?
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