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post #3461 of 3559 (permalink) Old 06-12-2019, 07:36 PM
 
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Re: All SmackDown TV Ratings, Buys, Attendance, Draw Talk Here >> THE BLUE BRAND RATINGS WAR

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AJ Styles is actually pretty damn charismatic

He's been able to stay popular with the crowds in just about any wrestling promotion he's worked for.

Styles cut some decent promos during his WWE title reign, and he's had plenty of solid matches too.

His Last Man Standing match against Shinsuke Nakamura at Money in the Bank last year alone debunks your silly claim of him "not having any standout matches"
Is it your gimmick to overhype wrestlers who are weak on the microphone?

Styles is average on the mic. He's not dreadful, but he's not "decent" either. His charisma is nothing special either. It's one thing to be over with a super niche ROH, TNA, and modern WWE crowd. It's another to be over with the general audience. There is no proof that Styles appeals to the general audience. Thus his charisma is unproven.

Overall, he isn't in the same league as the likes of Jericho, Flair, Angle, and HBK. Relatively small men who were strong on the microphone and had a certain amount of charisma.
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Flipping a hood over your head is not charisma. Anytime you put AJ in a ring with actual stars he vanishes. When Flair came to TNA they tried to make AJ the new Nature Boy it is still the saddest thing I've ever seen in wrestling. He walked around with a robe on that was too big and started to do the WOOS. If it was October he could have been mistaken for a trick or treater.

Dude, it's pointless trying to tell you the truth about who's charismatic.

All you basically have to do is USE your fucking ears to hear the crowd reactions Styles has been receiving throughout his career.

It's pretty obvious at this point that you have no clue what charisma actually is. You only seem to know who's in the golden tier on that department, but not for anyone else
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Re: All SmackDown TV Ratings, Buys, Attendance, Draw Talk Here >> THE BLUE BRAND RATINGS WAR

We should have a rule if you're going to criticize someones ability to draw.

1) Their favorite can't be a fucking meme for low ratings and has gotten bodied by Nia Jaxx for it.
2) Their favorite has actually drawn shit as A side.



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Re: All SmackDown TV Ratings, Buys, Attendance, Draw Talk Here >> THE BLUE BRAND RATINGS WAR

Is this the RAW thread? Holy geek wars.

People are missing the point. Ver much so as nobody is drawing in WWE right and that includes the WWE brand itself. You can assume which stars are drawing more than others (although without quarter-hour ratings, nobody is right.) but who fucking cares at this rate. The fact is nobody is saving the ratings and attendance from its current free fall.

The product is shit and it's for a variety of reasons. You are technically right. Yes, Women's Revolution was a rating disaster to court Ronda into WWE, who didn't help the ratings anyways. Yes, Seth and Kofi are awful draws as champions because their characters are so cold right now. Yes, the Attitude Era/Ruthless Aggression legends aren't drawing anymore because the fanbase is rapidly changing.

It's not just one individual or one thing in particular. It's a concerted effort of many bad results that have led us to where we are at now. Until people realize that, these pointless arguments will continue.


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Re: All SmackDown TV Ratings, Buys, Attendance, Draw Talk Here >> THE BLUE BRAND RATINGS WAR

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Is it your gimmick to overhype wrestlers who are weak on the microphone?
Is it your gimmick to continue quoting me with your horrendous posts?

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Styles is average on the mic. He's not dreadful, but he's not "decent" either.
Nah, he can be decent on the mic.

Anyway, that's EXACTLY what I've been saying about AJ Styles and Seth Rollins on that department. They range between average-to-good on the mic. I'd consider both men to be decent talkers, which is still their biggest weakness; but neither of them are actually "awful."

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His charisma is nothing special either. It's one thing to be over with a super niche ROH, TNA, and modern WWE crowd. It's another to be over with the general audience. There is no proof that Styles appeals to the general audience. Thus his charisma is unproven.
I can't believe you're STILL mistaking charisma for "drawing ability"

NOBODY on the current roster is a TV draw. Enough with you bringing up the casual/general audience in redundant topics like this. It's irrelevant because we're talking about CHARISMA, which is being able to inspire (positive) reactions out of other people and appeal to crowds due to having a special charm.

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Overall, he isn't in the same league as the likes of Jericho, Flair, Angle, and HBK. Relatively small men who were strong on the microphone and had a certain amount of charisma.
Why are you even bringing up these legends? I never even compared Styles to them.
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Anyway, that's EXACTLY what I've been saying about AJ Styles and Seth Rollins on that department. They range between average-to-good on the mic. I'd consider both men to be decent talkers, which is still their biggest weakness; but neither of them are actually "awful."
Styles isn't awful. He's average.

Rollins is awful. Especially for a main even performer.

Your definition of charisma is bizarre. It's a waste of time even debating you on that subject. Now, back to your shrine.
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To be fair to Becky, it hasn't helped that she's been dumped with the human dumpster that is Lacey Evans. A mongoloid who is stuck in a time-warp thinking it's 1950. Talks like it's 1950, and wrestles in quicksand.

Worthless, boring, trash.
Becky is garbage. Lacey is way better
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Props to Smackdown for beating RAW hour 3 both in demo and viewers.
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Becky is garbage. Lacey is way better
Knock it off.
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Props to Smackdown for beating RAW hour 3 both in demo and viewers.
A 2 hour show lost to a 3 hour show that went up against Game 5 of the NBA Finals while SD went up against NOTHING.



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