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Re: Seth is done as a babyface, turn him heel asap

Turn him heel and have him feud with Daniel Bryan (drafted to RAW) going into WM 36. They could probably get a Seth/Becky vs. Bryan/Brie match as well.

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Re: Seth is done as a babyface, turn him heel asap

I still think they can salvage Seth's face run. He still gets some of the biggest reactions of the night.

However, its going to happen when the fans are just totally done and will resent Seth. Its happening now in the smirk circle. At that point, make him drop the title. Have him take a hiatus (champion's schedule is brutal), and return him when things calm down as a heel.

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Re: Seth is done as a babyface, turn him heel asap

I remember seeing him wrestle 3 years ago at a live event. He was much more over than he is now.

I think the strange storylines (against Corbin as "The man`s man" and against Bray) didn`t work. Obvisouly they try to paint him as anti-hero in his storylines, but that doesn`t seem to get bought. I am not even sure, if just the storylines are bad or it is also the execution or the audience just don`t want to see it.

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Re: Seth is done as a babyface, turn him heel asap

I just want to go back to Seth Rollins ~2015 or whenever it was. They booked him like a chump back then although his character was fun.


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It doesn't matter. A heel turn will do nothing for him. He still can't promo, has no acting ability, and would be lost if he couldn't spam his face moves. His prior heel run is viewed through rose tinted glasses as people overrated it simply because he wasn't Roman, who was perceived to be the company darling. Ironically, seth is more overpushed than Roman ever was. Fact of the matter is he should never be a top heel or face. His lack of talent is better suited for the midcard.
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It doesn't matter if he is a face or a heel, he's simply not main-event material. He should be demoted to the midcard.

I actually admire WWE for getting behind a performer and pushing them to the moon. That is how stars are usually made. The only problem is that they have picked the wrong performer to push. Even the best booking squad would not be able to solve Rollins' weaknesses and turn him into a drawing card.
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Re: Seth is done as a babyface, turn him heel asap

It's easier to get behind a heel character since babyfaces are usually booked like crap.

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Re: Seth is done as a babyface, turn him heel asap

The hard truth is he's gotta go away for a chunk of time so the stink can wash off him.

Seth is in the "cool to shit on" spot right now, just like Wyatt was last year.

You can't get that stink off with a heel turn or a drop down the card. The only thing that can get it off is a LONG break from television.

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He's so ridiculously unlikeable its hilarious. Comes off smarmy, arrogant, looks like a complete greaseball. Then we know the stories of how he treats fans outside the ring, his habit of sending dick pics to married women, dating a nazi (allegedly). Hes so overpushed its insane.

And it would be one thing if he had a cool character or attire, but no. Hes completely bland as bird shit. Just a guy. I will never, ever for the life of me, until they bury my ass in the ground, understand Vince and Hunters love affair with this guy, and no one has ever given me a solid explanation. Can one of his marks explain to me his appeal? I just do not underfuckingstand. Maybe since he likes nudes so much he has some of Steph he blackmails Hunter and Vince with. Fuck. I dont get it.

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He's so ridiculously unlikeable its hilarious. Comes off smarmy, arrogant, looks like a complete greaseball. Then we know the stories of how he treats fans outside the ring, his habit of sending dick pics to married women, dating a nazi (allegedly). Hes so overpushed its insane.

And it would be one thing if he had a cool character or attire, but no. Hes completely bland as bird shit. Just a guy. I will never, ever for the life of me, until they bury my ass in the ground, understand Vince and Hunters love affair with this guy, and no one has ever given me a solid explanation. Can one of his marks explain to me his appeal? I just do not underfuckingstand. Maybe since he likes nudes so much he has some of Steph he blackmails Hunter and Vince with. Fuck. I dont get it.
My working theory, for him AND Roman Reigns both, and the only thing that's ever made sense to me is, after Rock and Brock left, Vince got REALLY nervous about anybody else getting a huge push because they'd leave, so to counter this, Vince has given pushes to guys who have NO prospects. They cannot make it in Hollywood, they cannot make it in another wrestling promotion, they can only make it in WWE, under this system, and under his watchful eye. So therefore, Vince is willing to put them as the absolute top guys because they will never abandon him because they MUST remain loyal to him for their livelyhoods. The people who have the skills to pursue acting or other wrestling at a top level, we MUST minimize these people, so that when they leave, they have less of an impact on our business metrics falling, because we've hurt them so much that the drop off will be less severe, and they're less value to any potential competitors. This has been the cause of WWE's philosophy that the stars are not the stars, the brand is the star. He wants stars that the brand itself overshadows. This is where the genuine hatred of charisma comes from, there is where the genuine hatred of mic skills comes from, there is where the genuine hatred of characters comes from. He didn't ALWAYS hate these things, he used to actively seek them out. This is something he ACQUIRED, as an asset for himself. This is why everybody has to be a generic first name, last name, plain trunks, etc. We can no longer have Undertakers, and Rocks, and Triple H's, and CM Punks, and Edges, we must have generic first name, last name, unenthusiastic, boring milquetoast wrestlers with no options at the top.

This is genuinely the type of thing that Vince McMahon would believe in.
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Re: Seth is done as a babyface, turn him heel asap

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It doesn't matter. A heel turn will do nothing for him. He still can't promo, has no acting ability, and would be lost if he couldn't spam his face moves. His prior heel run is viewed through rose tinted glasses as people overrated it simply because he wasn't Roman, who was perceived to be the company darling. Ironically, seth is more overpushed than Roman ever was. Fact of the matter is he should never be a top heel or face. His lack of talent is better suited for the midcard.
Your nuts. Hes a great chicken sh&t heel. Bring Back Yellow Streak Seth.
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