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Raw is fucked.

Lesnar is off to SD and given who they're promoting for SD on Fox the show will have no one left and 3 hrs of TV to fill with midcarders and low card acts.

USA have got to be filthy, they've been hoodwinked, bamboozled, led astray, run amuck, and flat out deceived by Vince.

Are they really going to be doing a program around the likes of Ziggler, Roode, Braun etc. who they've already told us are second and third tier stars?


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Raw is still their baby at the end of the day.

They'll put Brock, Roman, Becky, maybe even Seth on SD. They'll still make sure Raw is pretty set.

And at the end of the day, it depends on what you do with the talents that matters, and the jury's still out on which show will use their guys better.
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Raw is still their baby at the end of the day.

They'll put Brock, Roman, Becky, maybe even Seth on SD. They'll still make sure Raw is pretty set.

And at the end of the day, it depends on what you do with the talents that matters, and the jury's still out on which show will use their guys better.
That's their 4 top stars all on one show... they've already shown they don't give a fuck about anyone else.

Bray is going to have to carry the show as a heel/tweener act, the problem is he's got zero babyfaces to work with.

Raw is looking like a disaster if the promo material is true. They'll be doing sub 1.5m by the end up October.
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Re: Raw is fucked.

So you went from WWE is fucked to RAW is fucked?
Sounds like an improvement. Good job Vince.
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Re: Raw is fucked.

I'd be okay if Raw loses all the big names because then they'd be forced to create new main eventers.

Miz is staying on Raw because of Miz and Mrs. so maybe he'll get the world title run he deserved last year. I could see Samoa Joe finally getting a run and of course King Corbin. A lot of people won't like it but Rick O'Shea will be an upper carder soon under Paul Heyman and Cedric Alexander will be riding too. Gotta imagine Bray is staying on Raw with SDL's supposed focus on a sports like presentation and I would imagine Elias too.

They'll definitely have some pieces to work with, it's just a matter of how the choose to utilize them.
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Re: Raw is fucked.

If I'm USA I'm calling my lawyers and trying to get out of this deal ASAP.

They were losing 15-20% year on year with Brock and Ronda, what on earth are they going to do without them and a far weaker roster

I've given up on them producing compelling TV, I actually want them to load up on SD just to see Raw burn and Vince's reaction to it


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Brock on smackdown does nothing cuz he was barely on raw to begin with.
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That's their 4 top stars all on one show... they've already shown they don't give a fuck about anyone else.

Bray is going to have to carry the show as a heel/tweener act, the problem is he's got zero babyfaces to work with.

Raw is looking like a disaster if the promo material is true. They'll be doing sub 1.5m by the end up October.
Dude, how many times do we have to say, the brand is the draw for WWE, no one star.

Raw will continue to pull in the same numbers and probably drop steadily over time no matter who's on the show.

So let's stop trying to talk business here. The point will be the quality of the shows, and again, the jury is still out.

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Dude, how many times do we have to say, the brand is the draw for WWE, no one star.

Raw will continue to pull in the same numbers and probably drop steadily over time no matter who's on the show.

So let's stop trying to talk business here. The point will be the quality of the shows, and again, the jury is still out.
So you believe removing all the stars the company has told you are top stars and are the ones that matter is not going to have a negative effect on ratings? Sure it wont be noticeable if you remove one or two, but when you remove all of them and load them up on one show, you're telling people the other show doesn't matter. This is a perception and optics business.
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Casual viewers will watch the bigger show only, and that's the one with the names.

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