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What is it about AJ Styles matches that are not clicking when they should be huge matches

From Nakamura to Samoe Joe, Randy Orton and Ricochet. Something is not clicking with these matches.

On paper when you see AJ next to these names your like "Awe hell yeah! Thats gonna be a badass match! This could possibly steal the show!"

But yet it doesn't. Nor do the matches come off as great. As soon as the match is done we roll on probably never to watch that match again.

How many actually remember the Orton vs Styles match at WM35? By the time half the ppv was done the match was already forgotton about.

Thats not to take anything away from AJ he is a great performer and a great athlete. I watched TNA the couple of first years it started and AJ was incredible in TNA probably the best and biggest star at that time in the company.

The only match id probably go back and watch is Seth vs AJ at MITB. That was actually a good match
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Because he's actually a shit worker and nobody realizes it because they think Indies automatically means good.

That's why the matches don't work. He sucks. I've never understood this "he's the next Shawn Michaels", "he's the next Kurt Angle", "he's as good as Daniel Bryan" mentality. No, he's not. He fucking sucks.
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Re: What is it about AJ Styles matches that are not clicking when should be huge matches

Look at the names you mentioned.

Now look at his matches with Big Dog (which was one of the best series of matches for the last 5 years) or his matches with Cena. It's because he's working with people who aren't even close to being stars or can't put on a 4*+ match to save their lives.



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Because he's a bad worker. I see him as a novice in the ring to be honest.



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His matches against Cena, Brock & Randy Orton we're all good to great...

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I woke up on the wrong side of the multiverse it seems. Aj fucking styles is a bad worker now?!
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Re: What is it about AJ Styles matches that are not clicking when should be huge matches

No, not now, since 1998.

When you have a terrible match with Okada of all people, you shouldn't be in the business.
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Re: What is it about AJ Styles matches that are not clicking when should be huge matches

Here is the thing...

Wrestling is ultimately storytelling. The match is 1 part of the story. The other parts are the angle, how its booked, the promo's around it, etc. Wresting is at its best and most memorable when all of those things work together to tell a story the fans connect with and care about.

For better or worse, modern WWE usually makes a mess of the angles, booking and promos. That just leaves the match.
One of the issues with many of the matches in the WWE is that while the work-rate is excellent they come across as a buncha moves strung together rather than a story being told.
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His matches against Cena, Brock & Randy Orton we're all good to great...
The matches with Cena were all just finisher kick-out fests. Took me completely out of all of them. I didn't see the match with Orton and I can't remember the match with Brock.

The only AJ match I've enjoyed in his 3 and a half years was his gimmick match with Reigns for the title a few months after he debuted. Even Bryan couldn't drag a decent match out of this hack.

People are going to think I'm trolling, and I'm honestly not, but I think The Miz is a better worker than AJ Styles. I don't think Miz is good either, but AJ is a 20 year novice.
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On paper Ricochet and AJ was a dream match for me.

Taking out Ricochet's leg made perfect sense kayfabe wise, but it was a super disappointing decision.
It really handicapped the coolest story they could have told, old school flyer vs new school flyer.

I think weird decisions like that have made some of his spotlight matches underwhelming as hell... which I can admit as an enormous AJ Styles mark.
IDK if that's WWE, the match's agent or AJ himself making these calls, but stop it.
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