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How many actually remember the Orton vs Styles match at WM35? By the time half the ppv was done the match was already forgotton about.
I do, and I still think it was one of the best matches on the show. And I remember the matches with Joe too, which were also great.

Don't know why people continue on with this idea that those matches weren't great because they didn't contain high impact, fast paced action and multiple near fear fall false finishes. Not all matches need that and AJ understands that.



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I think last year it was a case of his face run growing stale. Nakamura didn't really put in his best work.

But I liked the matches with Joe,the matches with Bryan were great besides the Rumble one, and since MITB with Rollins and turning heel, I think he's been really good.

The matches with Ricochet both at ER and Summerslam were really good.
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For me he's still one of their best workers and he has had some great matches throughout his WWE career (Cena, Reigns, Bryan, Rollins etc) but for me personally I think it just comes down to age. AJ isn't getting any younger and he's in a position to be set for life and he may feel like he doesn't need to try so hard all the time and honestly that's fine. He's had great matches in both TNA and NJPW and people can always go back and see him to see what a 'phenomenal' worker he was.

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Re: What is it about AJ Styles matches that are not clicking when should be huge matches

Phoned it in and isn't getting the big matches in the top spot anymore.

Doesn't help that he's working a slower and grounded style when today's crowds are all about high spots and action since the storytelling is non existent or abysmal at best in the company.

Limb work isn't going to get over with today's WWE crowds, especially when there is no heat or storyline for a match.

An AJ Styles vs Richoet match should be a 15-18 minute sprint, not 15 mins of limb work to ground Ricochet's high flying. This is what fans most fans expected, to those who know how the company structures this match this is hardly surprising. A slow match that too between two high flyers doesn't get over when there is no fan investment or real animosity in the feud. It's not like AJ isn't a high flyer himself and isn't capable of working at a fast pace.

I get the impression they've told AJ to stay away from the high flying because it was difficult to get the crowds behind the babyfaces when he was heel last time. Either that or it's starting to take a toll on his body and he's protecting himself.
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Re: What is it about AJ Styles matches that are not clicking when should be huge matches

As inconvenient as may be to some Pro Wrestling is about more than just moves. It's drama, it's storytelling, it's good vs bad. It's no surprise that AJs standout matches are vs Reigns and Cena when those feuds had the necessary drama and story to invest in which makes the matches important, and thus makes the matters better.

If you can actually emotionally invest into a match in any way, if you can buy into a match and care about the winner it's going to be a much better match as a result. So often now there's all these matches like AJ vs Seth that so many hype up because on paper it should be a great match. Two talented ring workers going at it, yet there's very rarely a positive buzz afterwards because the fact its just a match, just a collection of moves instead of a story means there's no real connection.
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Re: What is it about AJ Styles matches that are not clicking when should be huge matches

It's odd that his best series of matches in WWE were with Cena and Reigns, two people that apparently can't wrestle.

He had a great match with Nakamura in NJPW, but two years later their matches were forgettable, is that due to the WWE and the way the agents layout the matches? It's not just him, Seth & Dean who had great matches with each other before, totally bombed at TLC last year.

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AJ was actually having amazing matches in 2016. But I can’t think of any great matches since. The matches with Balor and Lesnar were pretty good, but nothing special.

Maybe age is catching up to him, or he’s gotten complacent and uninspired. Maybe he was still in NJPW form when he came to WWE in 2016, and years of being on the main roster have diminished his skill.
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His had fine to great matches. The nak matches were more on nakamura the guy has been phoning it in for ages cause he didn't join up to have fantastic matches. The Bryan matches were good. Ortons match was good.

AJs old he doesn't have to pull out regular top notch performances. But you give him the right opponent he can deliver
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For me he's still one of their best workers and he has had some great matches throughout his WWE career (Cena, Reigns, Bryan, Rollins etc) but for me personally I think it just comes down to age. AJ isn't getting any younger and he's in a position to be set for life and he may feel like he doesn't need to try so hard all the time and honestly that's fine. He's had great matches in both TNA and NJPW and people can always go back and see him to see what a 'phenomenal' worker he was.
Exactly. He put in a big shift against Cena, Reigns, Brock early on in his initial WWE contract and got paid royally for his extension. Your own fault, that you were still watching (and complaining about) WWE, when the real show was going on elsewhere.
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Nonsense from haters aside.

He's had spectacular performances with Roman, Cena, Brock, Dean before but has had a lack of chemistry with guys like Owens, Ricochet, Screws over by shitty finishes until he finally got that standout match with Nakamura, Joe.

His Workrate may have regressed a little over the years and is no longer hitting his old sick high spots incorporated in his arsenal, Now he relies on a more Technical Catch as Catch can style primarily to carry through his matches, His storytelling is fine, His Ring IQ is solid.

I think some people may have let the hype get to them a little.
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