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Re: Is it time to admit that Rollins sucks in the ring?

I remember that Seth Rollins was considered a good wrestler especially with his selling by many. I haven't been watching for a while but what happened?
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Cut the crap he does the same exact thing Seth did last night. Don’t use kayfabe broken ribs as an out. All those matches with Okada were 40 plus minutes of huge spot after huge spot with the same kind of selling you see everywhere now. The NXT guys same deal. And don’t get wrong I’m fine with it because it’s entertaining as hell but that’s so blatantly dishonest to praise Kenny in the same breath as trashing Seth. They’re so similar. Because one is Mr WWE and the other is the darling of the “cool indy scene”.
Ok Professor, please show me one spot that Omega does in every match that is about as bad as Rollins' Superplex into a falcon arrow? With that spot, Rollins makes himself, his opponent and the match itself look phony. What does Omega do that is as equivalent?
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If not selling meant someone was a bad wrestler why are Strong Style wrestlers or any indie wrestler who gets back up after a pile driver, 27 Super kicks or a Canadian Destroyer so popular?
because you have ton of fans who dont care about anything else but MOVES and SPOTS. thats all they wanna see.
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Seth is decent but he will never be in the league as someone like HBK, Savage, or Bret Hart for example until he can use psychology in his matches. Right now it's just spots for the sake of doing spots with very little story being told. Atleast not ones that makes sense.
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Literally, everybody did. Well.. not everybody... everybody but me :P. Nobody was running around complaining how 'fake' his selling of the knee was.



And you can keep trying to equate Rollins not selling to the inability to be able to sell just kind of invalidates you.

Even the core concept of this thread.. that Rollins 'sucks in the ring' is hilarious. Now, granted he narrowed his moveset and workrate after the injury(and i'm quite sure at the promotion's behest), but simply saying that means someone is completely ignorant of Rollins's run since he broke The Shield. The motherfucker would take a dive over the top rope to the outside and land on his feet. Would jump off the top rope into an F5. Shit... the curbstomp reversal into an RKO @ WM is a thing of legend. This is a guy that could do a Phoenix splash if needed and most guys his size wouldn't even consider it.

He can roll with anyone, anytime... even the technical guys like Styles or Bryan. I'm quite sure if you put him in there with Ricochet, he'd hold his own with Flippy McFlipper.

And make no bones about this.. if he were ever to come free, AEW would be on him like white on rice. The guy is a top-tier talent, and if you don't believe that you can take your opinion, which is worth about as much as a ten cent taco, and shove it. I mean, they went after Ambrose and that guy is mid-tier at best anywhere else.
So judging by the things you said Rollins is a spot monkey? I hate both Seth and Ricochett but you are out here calling Ricochett "Flippy Mcflipper" while you are praising Rollins when they're almost the same . Doing a Phoenix Splash , diving off the top rope and landing on your feet and all the other shit you mentioned doesn't make you a good wrestler . Stone Cold couldn't do any of that shit you mentioned yet he's better than Rollins in the ring. Also Ambrose is better than Rollins at literally everything now. He used to be better than Rollins at everything except for in ring skills but now he even surpassed Rollins in that aspect. Its not even debatable anymore.
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Literally, everybody did.
No, they didn't. Don't reply to me if you're just going to reply with bullshit statements.

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Well.. not everybody... everybody but me :P. Nobody was running around complaining how 'fake' his selling of the knee was.
And this is just further proof that you're lying. That was one of the biggest complaints about his match.

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And you can keep trying to equate Rollins not selling to the inability to be able to sell just kind of invalidates you.
It doesn't invalidate me at all. He's demonstrated multiple times now that he's not capable of doing it, even in situations where he doesn't have a pre match stipulated injury.

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Even the core concept of this thread.. that Rollins 'sucks in the ring' is hilarious. Now, granted he narrowed his moveset and workrate after the injury(and i'm quite sure at the promotion's behest), but simply saying that means someone is completely ignorant of Rollins's run since he broke The Shield. The motherfucker would take a dive over the top rope to the outside and land on his feet. Would jump off the top rope into an F5. Shit... the curbstomp reversal into an RKO @ WM is a thing of legend.
Literally none of that is being ignored. Those things don't make him a great in-ring performer. Those things don't make anyone a great in-ring performer.

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This is a guy that could do a Phoenix splash if needed and most guys his size wouldn't even consider it.
So on top of lying about people thinking Rollins was legitimately injured going into his match with Triple H, you are now telling me that you are one of those people that think that "moves moves and MOVES LOL" are what makes a guy great in the ring. I guess you think Terry Funk wasn't a great in-ring performer right? I guess Steve Austin wasn't great? Oh but I bet Jeff Hardy is an all time great right?

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He can roll with anyone, anytime... even the technical guys like Styles or Bryan. I'm quite sure if you put him in there with Ricochet, he'd hold his own with Flippy McFlipper.
Until Rollins proves he's able to construct a match differently from the typical style that he likes performing in, he is not anywhere close to Bryan as far as being an in-ring performer is concerned.

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And make no bones about this.. if he were ever to come free, AEW would be on him like white on rice. The guy is a top-tier talent, and if you don't believe that you can take your opinion, which is worth about as much as a ten cent taco, and shove it.
A guy who can't talk on the mic and has little to no abilities in the character department isn't a top tier talent, regardless of how good he is in the ring (and he's not good in the ring, so that just kills your argument).

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I mean, they went after Ambrose and that guy is mid-tier at best anywhere else.
Because Ambrose is one of the best mic workers in Pro Wrestling. He's an excellent character worker who takes that aspect of Pro Wrestling very seriously. And he is a very, VERY good in-ring performer who takes not only selling seriously, but all of the other critical aspects such as storytelling too. Rollins does not.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt and that was a very obvious mistake. I mean, you just tried to tell me that Seth being able to do a Phoenix Splash makes him a top tier in-ring performer. That makes him a great gymnastic, that doesn't make him a great in-ring performer. There's a reason he's already received criticism from other people within the industry for his in-ring work, and it isn't because he doesn't do enough flips.

Now please, take your lack of Pro Wrestling knowledge somewhere else and leave this to people who know what they're talking about.



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In a way it bothers me he can sell an injury one time then next he doesn't, I'm starting to think I'm making excuses for him but it's like he has short attention span at times.
This is my issue, the man can sell injuries it;s just it seems in the heat of the moment he forgets. Take his match with Brock, man came out selling and limping form the beatings he took. but the the moment the bell rang he was on and off with his selling.

Meanwhile in the Ricochet v AJ Styles match that night Ricochet was selling every beat of that leg injury throughout that whole match.

But more on topic Rollins is a great in ring athlete I wont even judge his in ring ability he is one of the best right now, but his only down side to his in ring ability is his consistency with selling injuries. If you have a massive rib injury then you got to think smart and perform around it.


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Until Rollins proves he's able to construct a match differently from the typical style that he likes performing in, he is not anywhere close to Bryan as far as being an in-ring performer is concerned.
The same Daniel Bryan whose moveset is now so limited he likely has less moves than Cena? Maybe early DB, but he's so constricted now, he makes Rollins look like Mozart.
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I remember that Seth Rollins was considered a good wrestler especially with his selling by many. I haven't been watching for a while but what happened?
Now people hate him and don't only resort to pointing out his flaws, they're even trying to imply he actually sucks at what was ALWAYS revered about him (even by his deniers) back in the day : his in-ring ability.

Classic internet situation.
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he sold it well on raw when aj punched him in the back early on, and when he was suplexed on the floor, but other times throughout the match (and the one with brock) he forgot to sell it. ugh. either sell it or don't.

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