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Yeah, he’s so bad that he turned an entire Toronto crowd around that was prepared to shit all over him, and had them cheering like crazy and yelling, “burn it down” before he hit his finisher.

That’s a shit performer, I tell ya.
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No, Seth is great in the ring but the WWE doesn’t believe in ring psychology. It has nothing to do with Seth’s in ring talent. Take Ambrose/Moxley for an example. In the WWE his matches sucked. Goes to the Indys and now they are great.


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Yeah, he’s so bad that he turned an entire Toronto crowd around that was prepared to shit all over him, and had them cheering like crazy and yelling, “burn it down” before he hit his finisher.

That’s a shit performer, I tell ya.
This was a crowd chanting "this is awesome" to a terrible Stratus/Charlotte match.

That doesn't really mean much.

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Rollins has never once, before or during his time with WWE, demonstrated that he understands in-ring psychology or storytelling for that matter. This isn't a WWE problem. It's a Seth Rollins problem.

And Moxley still demonstrated his knowledge of storytelling in WWE. That never went away. He's being given more freedom in AEW and it's showing.
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He doesn't suck in the ring, but he's nowhere near the top 20 best wrestler's around today imo. Some on here saying he's the HBK of this generation, get the hell out of here with that. He's a solid talent but he ain't no Bryan, AJ, Reigns, Gargano, Cole when it comes to in ring work. Let's not get started on mentioning him in the same breath as NJPW guys.

Good solid worker at best.

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Rollins has never once, before or during his time with WWE, demonstrated that he understands in-ring psychology or storytelling for that matter. This isn't a WWE problem. It's a Seth Rollins problem.

And Moxley still demonstrated his knowledge of storytelling in WWE. That never went away. He's being given more freedom in AEW and it's showing.
Yeah. The Seth fans talk about how nothing is his fault and how much better he would be if WWE didn't "hold him back". What exactly is going to better about him if he wasn't "held back"? You could easily tell that Moxley was held back because character wise and promo wise he was capable of so much more than that shitty comedy character who lost all the time.With Rollins what's gonna change? He barely has a character in WWE and he's bad at promos and character work. In ROH he was so much more bland character wise than he is now and now character wise he still sucks. Yall Rollins fans act as if he leaves WWE he's going to become some kind of god when i simply don't see it.
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Yeah, he’s so bad that he turned an entire Toronto crowd around that was prepared to shit all over him, and had them cheering like crazy and yelling, “burn it down” before he hit his finisher.

That’s a shit performer, I tell ya.
That crowd wasn’t really that hot for anything TBH. I thought Toronto would have been much more into having that big of a show. And the next night they could care less about Seth and were much more enthused about Styles. This despite Seth getting the clean win on Brock. That’s someone who doesn’t have much momentum even though they should have.
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Broken ribs would effect breathing not ability of movement so if adrenaline kicked in you should still be able to ignore the discomfort.

Did WWE actually state was it broken or bruised/battered ribs. Did they mention how severe the supposed injury was..

Hogan wrestled with kayfabe broken ribs at Wrestlemania 2 and won so does that mean he didn't know psychology?
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Broken ribs would effect breathing not ability of movement so if adrenaline kicked in you should still be able to ignore the discomfort.

Did WWE actually state was it broken or bruised/battered ribs. Did they mention how severe the supposed injury was..

Hogan wrestled with kayfabe broken ribs at Wrestlemania 2 and won so does that mean he didn't know psychology?
Hogan also sold the hell out of his ribs until his inevitable hulk up and win. Not that seth should ever have his name uttered in the same sentence as Hogan.
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Hogan also sold the hell out of his ribs until his inevitable hulk up and win. Not that seth should ever have his name uttered in the same sentence as Hogan.
Hogan completely ignored any kayfabe injury during his entrance including climbing over cage and jumping down.

I would have more sympathy for modern fans screaming 'no selling' and 'no psychology' if not for fact selling has never been good in us tv wrestling going back to 80s. It's either ignored, completely over the top and cartoony or used as rest spot for most part. Too many times today It's an easy excuse to throw at someone you don't like.

At Wrestlemania 12 Shawn worked on Bret's leg continuously yet at end of match Bret was fine and showing no ill effects. A week or so before Wrestlemania 18 Hogan attempted to murder Rock via huge truck yet Rock returns without scratch and never showed any signs of trauma during match.
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